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[quote jpinpb]
I think I made very clear that I am not condoning his actions. I just don’t like the selective nature. There are plenty of people trashing places. This is not the first incident.
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True, but think of it this way. This cop is also a person who is allowed the decision over life and death of civilians. If he does not have the restraint to control his anger upon being foreclosed upon, will he have restraint on that trigger finger should he get angry while at his job? The resulting cost my be a person’s life, not the inside of a house.

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[quote jpinpb]
I think I made very clear that I am not condoning his actions. I just don’t like the selective nature. There are plenty of people trashing places. This is not the first incident.
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True, but think of it this way. This cop is also a person who is allowed the decision over life and death of civilians. If he does not have the restraint to control his anger upon being foreclosed upon, will he have restraint on that trigger finger should he get angry while at his job? The resulting cost my be a person’s life, not the inside of a house.

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[quote jpinpb]
I think I made very clear that I am not condoning his actions. I just don’t like the selective nature. There are plenty of people trashing places. This is not the first incident.
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True, but think of it this way. This cop is also a person who is allowed the decision over life and death of civilians. If he does not have the restraint to control his anger upon being foreclosed upon, will he have restraint on that trigger finger should he get angry while at his job? The resulting cost my be a person’s life, not the inside of a house.

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[quote sdrealtor]The MLS is not a public utility it costs alot of money to support and depends on the fees paid by realtors and other members. I would love to see what would happen when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item and had to defend yourself in a court of law or were ready to move and had closed on a new house only to find out that you didnt fill the contract out properly and your buyer just walked with his deposit and you are screwed.
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I have to disagree with you on this.. and in this case you are in my own area of expertise. In reality, the MLS is very easy and cheap to run, though it does use the fees paid by realtors and other members. The ‘cost’ statement is the same reasoning made by the IEEE, ACM to justify their costs. If you have been paying attention to the online world, arXiv.org blew them out of the water on their justification for their costs. In the ‘print’ world, there was reason for the costs, but in the current ‘electronic’ world, the cost of putting up a web based information distribution system is easily amortized over the number of users. (It does depend upon the hosting system you use).

As for “when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item”, this is a different subject from the MLS itself. Listing Realtors do have a responsibility in this area (the MLS does not take the responsibility) and is a reason why one does need to be careful, and an honest, experience realtor has value.

It is also useful to note, that the secretive behavior of the MLS, has allowed questionable behavior on the part of some realtors to continue. The existence of sites like zillow and sdlookup have allowed more ‘exposure’ into some of this behavior (realtors purchasing a property just to flip it directly to a client{buyer} that they knew about). What is interesting, from a history perspective, is that this behavior is part of what caused the Great Depression in the 30’s, and was outlawed by the SEC with respect to securities brokers. Do something like this as a stock broker – and you can loose your license for life – not to mention prison time. Personally, I would like to see licensing of RE brokers and mortgage brokers structured along similar lines. For most people, a house purchase is the single largest money transaction they are going to do in their life.

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[quote sdrealtor]The MLS is not a public utility it costs alot of money to support and depends on the fees paid by realtors and other members. I would love to see what would happen when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item and had to defend yourself in a court of law or were ready to move and had closed on a new house only to find out that you didnt fill the contract out properly and your buyer just walked with his deposit and you are screwed.
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I have to disagree with you on this.. and in this case you are in my own area of expertise. In reality, the MLS is very easy and cheap to run, though it does use the fees paid by realtors and other members. The ‘cost’ statement is the same reasoning made by the IEEE, ACM to justify their costs. If you have been paying attention to the online world, arXiv.org blew them out of the water on their justification for their costs. In the ‘print’ world, there was reason for the costs, but in the current ‘electronic’ world, the cost of putting up a web based information distribution system is easily amortized over the number of users. (It does depend upon the hosting system you use).

As for “when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item”, this is a different subject from the MLS itself. Listing Realtors do have a responsibility in this area (the MLS does not take the responsibility) and is a reason why one does need to be careful, and an honest, experience realtor has value.

It is also useful to note, that the secretive behavior of the MLS, has allowed questionable behavior on the part of some realtors to continue. The existence of sites like zillow and sdlookup have allowed more ‘exposure’ into some of this behavior (realtors purchasing a property just to flip it directly to a client{buyer} that they knew about). What is interesting, from a history perspective, is that this behavior is part of what caused the Great Depression in the 30’s, and was outlawed by the SEC with respect to securities brokers. Do something like this as a stock broker – and you can loose your license for life – not to mention prison time. Personally, I would like to see licensing of RE brokers and mortgage brokers structured along similar lines. For most people, a house purchase is the single largest money transaction they are going to do in their life.

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[quote sdrealtor]The MLS is not a public utility it costs alot of money to support and depends on the fees paid by realtors and other members. I would love to see what would happen when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item and had to defend yourself in a court of law or were ready to move and had closed on a new house only to find out that you didnt fill the contract out properly and your buyer just walked with his deposit and you are screwed.
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I have to disagree with you on this.. and in this case you are in my own area of expertise. In reality, the MLS is very easy and cheap to run, though it does use the fees paid by realtors and other members. The ‘cost’ statement is the same reasoning made by the IEEE, ACM to justify their costs. If you have been paying attention to the online world, arXiv.org blew them out of the water on their justification for their costs. In the ‘print’ world, there was reason for the costs, but in the current ‘electronic’ world, the cost of putting up a web based information distribution system is easily amortized over the number of users. (It does depend upon the hosting system you use).

As for “when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item”, this is a different subject from the MLS itself. Listing Realtors do have a responsibility in this area (the MLS does not take the responsibility) and is a reason why one does need to be careful, and an honest, experience realtor has value.

It is also useful to note, that the secretive behavior of the MLS, has allowed questionable behavior on the part of some realtors to continue. The existence of sites like zillow and sdlookup have allowed more ‘exposure’ into some of this behavior (realtors purchasing a property just to flip it directly to a client{buyer} that they knew about). What is interesting, from a history perspective, is that this behavior is part of what caused the Great Depression in the 30’s, and was outlawed by the SEC with respect to securities brokers. Do something like this as a stock broker – and you can loose your license for life – not to mention prison time. Personally, I would like to see licensing of RE brokers and mortgage brokers structured along similar lines. For most people, a house purchase is the single largest money transaction they are going to do in their life.

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[quote sdrealtor]The MLS is not a public utility it costs alot of money to support and depends on the fees paid by realtors and other members. I would love to see what would happen when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item and had to defend yourself in a court of law or were ready to move and had closed on a new house only to find out that you didnt fill the contract out properly and your buyer just walked with his deposit and you are screwed.
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I have to disagree with you on this.. and in this case you are in my own area of expertise. In reality, the MLS is very easy and cheap to run, though it does use the fees paid by realtors and other members. The ‘cost’ statement is the same reasoning made by the IEEE, ACM to justify their costs. If you have been paying attention to the online world, arXiv.org blew them out of the water on their justification for their costs. In the ‘print’ world, there was reason for the costs, but in the current ‘electronic’ world, the cost of putting up a web based information distribution system is easily amortized over the number of users. (It does depend upon the hosting system you use).

As for “when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item”, this is a different subject from the MLS itself. Listing Realtors do have a responsibility in this area (the MLS does not take the responsibility) and is a reason why one does need to be careful, and an honest, experience realtor has value.

It is also useful to note, that the secretive behavior of the MLS, has allowed questionable behavior on the part of some realtors to continue. The existence of sites like zillow and sdlookup have allowed more ‘exposure’ into some of this behavior (realtors purchasing a property just to flip it directly to a client{buyer} that they knew about). What is interesting, from a history perspective, is that this behavior is part of what caused the Great Depression in the 30’s, and was outlawed by the SEC with respect to securities brokers. Do something like this as a stock broker – and you can loose your license for life – not to mention prison time. Personally, I would like to see licensing of RE brokers and mortgage brokers structured along similar lines. For most people, a house purchase is the single largest money transaction they are going to do in their life.

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[quote sdrealtor]The MLS is not a public utility it costs alot of money to support and depends on the fees paid by realtors and other members. I would love to see what would happen when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item and had to defend yourself in a court of law or were ready to move and had closed on a new house only to find out that you didnt fill the contract out properly and your buyer just walked with his deposit and you are screwed.
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I have to disagree with you on this.. and in this case you are in my own area of expertise. In reality, the MLS is very easy and cheap to run, though it does use the fees paid by realtors and other members. The ‘cost’ statement is the same reasoning made by the IEEE, ACM to justify their costs. If you have been paying attention to the online world, arXiv.org blew them out of the water on their justification for their costs. In the ‘print’ world, there was reason for the costs, but in the current ‘electronic’ world, the cost of putting up a web based information distribution system is easily amortized over the number of users. (It does depend upon the hosting system you use).

As for “when you got sued for non-disclosure of an item”, this is a different subject from the MLS itself. Listing Realtors do have a responsibility in this area (the MLS does not take the responsibility) and is a reason why one does need to be careful, and an honest, experience realtor has value.

It is also useful to note, that the secretive behavior of the MLS, has allowed questionable behavior on the part of some realtors to continue. The existence of sites like zillow and sdlookup have allowed more ‘exposure’ into some of this behavior (realtors purchasing a property just to flip it directly to a client{buyer} that they knew about). What is interesting, from a history perspective, is that this behavior is part of what caused the Great Depression in the 30’s, and was outlawed by the SEC with respect to securities brokers. Do something like this as a stock broker – and you can loose your license for life – not to mention prison time. Personally, I would like to see licensing of RE brokers and mortgage brokers structured along similar lines. For most people, a house purchase is the single largest money transaction they are going to do in their life.

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Actually, the heading is a bit misleading. Try:

Around 2,000 people protested in front of parliament, voicing dissatisfaction with, among other things, a recent parliamentary vote that saw three of four ministers recommended for facing charges of negligence escaping any charges.

If you read a bit farther down.. you’ll see it.

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Actually, the heading is a bit misleading. Try:

Around 2,000 people protested in front of parliament, voicing dissatisfaction with, among other things, a recent parliamentary vote that saw three of four ministers recommended for facing charges of negligence escaping any charges.

If you read a bit farther down.. you’ll see it.

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Actually, the heading is a bit misleading. Try:

Around 2,000 people protested in front of parliament, voicing dissatisfaction with, among other things, a recent parliamentary vote that saw three of four ministers recommended for facing charges of negligence escaping any charges.

If you read a bit farther down.. you’ll see it.

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Actually, the heading is a bit misleading. Try:

Around 2,000 people protested in front of parliament, voicing dissatisfaction with, among other things, a recent parliamentary vote that saw three of four ministers recommended for facing charges of negligence escaping any charges.

If you read a bit farther down.. you’ll see it.

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Actually, the heading is a bit misleading. Try:

Around 2,000 people protested in front of parliament, voicing dissatisfaction with, among other things, a recent parliamentary vote that saw three of four ministers recommended for facing charges of negligence escaping any charges.

If you read a bit farther down.. you’ll see it.

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[quote briansd1]
A new poll shows that half of those who consider themselves part of the tea party movement also identify as part of the religious right, …
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Yawn.. Even odds on two choices is 50% or half. The other way to read the statement is;

“half of those who consider themselves part of the tea party movement don’t identify as part of the religious right”

You conveniently forgot about the other ‘half’.. You also forgot about other quotes.. ie:

Members of the tea party, including Christian conservatives, he said, would generally think George Bush’s use of government money to subsidize faith-based institutions “was the wrong direction.” They also might have a strong personal opposition to same-sex marriage, he said, but believe banning gay marriage “is not a role for the federal government.”

From same article.

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[quote briansd1]
A new poll shows that half of those who consider themselves part of the tea party movement also identify as part of the religious right, …
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Yawn.. Even odds on two choices is 50% or half. The other way to read the statement is;

“half of those who consider themselves part of the tea party movement don’t identify as part of the religious right”

You conveniently forgot about the other ‘half’.. You also forgot about other quotes.. ie:

Members of the tea party, including Christian conservatives, he said, would generally think George Bush’s use of government money to subsidize faith-based institutions “was the wrong direction.” They also might have a strong personal opposition to same-sex marriage, he said, but believe banning gay marriage “is not a role for the federal government.”

From same article.

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