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Participant[quote=Jazzman]I’ve seen a chart that purports to show the same, but with NY being the biggest draw. What can you buy in California for $100k? Why would foreigners give “It’s a nice place to live” as the main reason, when they legally can’t live here? Needs some verbal backup.[/quote]
So many assumptions here…
* you can buy condos and even SFR in California for less than 100k in plenty of non coastal, non big city locations. I did a quick search of big bear and found several under 100k
* If they live in it seasonally, for three months, then nice place to live matters. Think snow birds from Canada. You can live in the US for 90 days on a tourist visa. My aunt’s community in Arizona is 70% seasonal Snowbirds, mostly Canadians, but some from Northern US states,
like the Dakotas.If you look at the link… most of the foreign buyers are from North America and that means Canada and Mexico.
Participant[quote=Jazzman]I’ve seen a chart that purports to show the same, but with NY being the biggest draw. What can you buy in California for $100k? Why would foreigners give “It’s a nice place to live” as the main reason, when they legally can’t live here? Needs some verbal backup.[/quote]
So many assumptions here…
* you can buy condos and even SFR in California for less than 100k in plenty of non coastal, non big city locations. I did a quick search of big bear and found several under 100k
* If they live in it seasonally, for three months, then nice place to live matters. Think snow birds from Canada. You can live in the US for 90 days on a tourist visa. My aunt’s community in Arizona is 70% seasonal Snowbirds, mostly Canadians, but some from Northern US states,
like the Dakotas.If you look at the link… most of the foreign buyers are from North America and that means Canada and Mexico.
July 28, 2011 at 1:41 PM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #713498Participant[quote=threadkiller]If you are in the highest tier and get a 5KW system it should save you about $2K a year. I think it costs about $25-27K to install such a system, so 26/2 = 13 years for the average person whose bill exceeds $150 on average. Though we have a new roof it is an older house so the pitch isn’t very steep. I would love to buy a system but the wife doesn’t want to incur any more debt and I can also see that viewpoint. So in a nutshell if you live east of the 5, are not planning on replacing roof soon then I think it makes since if you fall in the tier 3/4 arena each month.[/quote]
$25-27k is before rebates. You can knock about $8-10k off of that. When we got quotes, they gave us the rebate figures.July 28, 2011 at 1:41 PM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #713591Participant[quote=threadkiller]If you are in the highest tier and get a 5KW system it should save you about $2K a year. I think it costs about $25-27K to install such a system, so 26/2 = 13 years for the average person whose bill exceeds $150 on average. Though we have a new roof it is an older house so the pitch isn’t very steep. I would love to buy a system but the wife doesn’t want to incur any more debt and I can also see that viewpoint. So in a nutshell if you live east of the 5, are not planning on replacing roof soon then I think it makes since if you fall in the tier 3/4 arena each month.[/quote]
$25-27k is before rebates. You can knock about $8-10k off of that. When we got quotes, they gave us the rebate figures.July 28, 2011 at 1:41 PM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #714187Participant[quote=threadkiller]If you are in the highest tier and get a 5KW system it should save you about $2K a year. I think it costs about $25-27K to install such a system, so 26/2 = 13 years for the average person whose bill exceeds $150 on average. Though we have a new roof it is an older house so the pitch isn’t very steep. I would love to buy a system but the wife doesn’t want to incur any more debt and I can also see that viewpoint. So in a nutshell if you live east of the 5, are not planning on replacing roof soon then I think it makes since if you fall in the tier 3/4 arena each month.[/quote]
$25-27k is before rebates. You can knock about $8-10k off of that. When we got quotes, they gave us the rebate figures.July 28, 2011 at 1:41 PM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #714339Participant[quote=threadkiller]If you are in the highest tier and get a 5KW system it should save you about $2K a year. I think it costs about $25-27K to install such a system, so 26/2 = 13 years for the average person whose bill exceeds $150 on average. Though we have a new roof it is an older house so the pitch isn’t very steep. I would love to buy a system but the wife doesn’t want to incur any more debt and I can also see that viewpoint. So in a nutshell if you live east of the 5, are not planning on replacing roof soon then I think it makes since if you fall in the tier 3/4 arena each month.[/quote]
$25-27k is before rebates. You can knock about $8-10k off of that. When we got quotes, they gave us the rebate figures.July 28, 2011 at 1:41 PM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #714699Participant[quote=threadkiller]If you are in the highest tier and get a 5KW system it should save you about $2K a year. I think it costs about $25-27K to install such a system, so 26/2 = 13 years for the average person whose bill exceeds $150 on average. Though we have a new roof it is an older house so the pitch isn’t very steep. I would love to buy a system but the wife doesn’t want to incur any more debt and I can also see that viewpoint. So in a nutshell if you live east of the 5, are not planning on replacing roof soon then I think it makes since if you fall in the tier 3/4 arena each month.[/quote]
$25-27k is before rebates. You can knock about $8-10k off of that. When we got quotes, they gave us the rebate figures.July 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #713483ParticipantPayoff is definitely dependent on your usage. We live semi-coastal – so no AC in the summer – our latest sdg&e bill is $47 for a 2000sf home. And a portion of that was gas for cooking.
We’ve crunched the numbers and our payoff – assuming we could get all the rebates – is about 12 years with current usage. We’re holding off for 2 things:
1) we’ll consider after we replace our roof… Roof is 14 years old and we don’t want to have to take down/reinstall the panels when we redo the roof in 15 years.
2) if we get a plug in electric car – we’ll look at it because our usage would justify it then.Our neighbors, same house, but higher usage, have an 8 year payoff. They got them a few years ago and love watching the dial spin backwards.
July 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #713576ParticipantPayoff is definitely dependent on your usage. We live semi-coastal – so no AC in the summer – our latest sdg&e bill is $47 for a 2000sf home. And a portion of that was gas for cooking.
We’ve crunched the numbers and our payoff – assuming we could get all the rebates – is about 12 years with current usage. We’re holding off for 2 things:
1) we’ll consider after we replace our roof… Roof is 14 years old and we don’t want to have to take down/reinstall the panels when we redo the roof in 15 years.
2) if we get a plug in electric car – we’ll look at it because our usage would justify it then.Our neighbors, same house, but higher usage, have an 8 year payoff. They got them a few years ago and love watching the dial spin backwards.
July 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #714172ParticipantPayoff is definitely dependent on your usage. We live semi-coastal – so no AC in the summer – our latest sdg&e bill is $47 for a 2000sf home. And a portion of that was gas for cooking.
We’ve crunched the numbers and our payoff – assuming we could get all the rebates – is about 12 years with current usage. We’re holding off for 2 things:
1) we’ll consider after we replace our roof… Roof is 14 years old and we don’t want to have to take down/reinstall the panels when we redo the roof in 15 years.
2) if we get a plug in electric car – we’ll look at it because our usage would justify it then.Our neighbors, same house, but higher usage, have an 8 year payoff. They got them a few years ago and love watching the dial spin backwards.
July 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #714324ParticipantPayoff is definitely dependent on your usage. We live semi-coastal – so no AC in the summer – our latest sdg&e bill is $47 for a 2000sf home. And a portion of that was gas for cooking.
We’ve crunched the numbers and our payoff – assuming we could get all the rebates – is about 12 years with current usage. We’re holding off for 2 things:
1) we’ll consider after we replace our roof… Roof is 14 years old and we don’t want to have to take down/reinstall the panels when we redo the roof in 15 years.
2) if we get a plug in electric car – we’ll look at it because our usage would justify it then.Our neighbors, same house, but higher usage, have an 8 year payoff. They got them a few years ago and love watching the dial spin backwards.
July 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM in reply to: Solar Energy, what is the actual cost and how long will it take to recoupe cost #714684ParticipantPayoff is definitely dependent on your usage. We live semi-coastal – so no AC in the summer – our latest sdg&e bill is $47 for a 2000sf home. And a portion of that was gas for cooking.
We’ve crunched the numbers and our payoff – assuming we could get all the rebates – is about 12 years with current usage. We’re holding off for 2 things:
1) we’ll consider after we replace our roof… Roof is 14 years old and we don’t want to have to take down/reinstall the panels when we redo the roof in 15 years.
2) if we get a plug in electric car – we’ll look at it because our usage would justify it then.Our neighbors, same house, but higher usage, have an 8 year payoff. They got them a few years ago and love watching the dial spin backwards.
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]This thread, and indeed its participants, needs an intervention!
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Is that a call for abstinence or a call for a PIGG get together?Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]This thread, and indeed its participants, needs an intervention!
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