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I’m a big believer that parents have to figure out what works for their family and their kids. If this works, great.

I’m also of the mind that just carrots or just sticks won’t do it for most kids – you need carrots ($ in this case) and sticks (removal of privileges).

I think the idea that it’s too long of a period is a valid one. Perhaps you can arrange with the guidance counselor to get monthly status updates.

I was the “bright but lazy” student – and that’s what my dad did – if the monthly report showed I was underperforming he cracked down – I could do NOTHING but homework and extra studying. One month of that and I was back on track.

At the time I thought my dad was the meanest dad on the planet – in hindsight, I know he was doing it because he cared and wanted me to achieve my potential.

But – if paying for grades works – great. What is your backup plan if it doesn’t work?

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I’m a big believer that parents have to figure out what works for their family and their kids. If this works, great.

I’m also of the mind that just carrots or just sticks won’t do it for most kids – you need carrots ($ in this case) and sticks (removal of privileges).

I think the idea that it’s too long of a period is a valid one. Perhaps you can arrange with the guidance counselor to get monthly status updates.

I was the “bright but lazy” student – and that’s what my dad did – if the monthly report showed I was underperforming he cracked down – I could do NOTHING but homework and extra studying. One month of that and I was back on track.

At the time I thought my dad was the meanest dad on the planet – in hindsight, I know he was doing it because he cared and wanted me to achieve my potential.

But – if paying for grades works – great. What is your backup plan if it doesn’t work?

[UCGal]

I’m a big believer that parents have to figure out what works for their family and their kids. If this works, great.

I’m also of the mind that just carrots or just sticks won’t do it for most kids – you need carrots ($ in this case) and sticks (removal of privileges).

I think the idea that it’s too long of a period is a valid one. Perhaps you can arrange with the guidance counselor to get monthly status updates.

I was the “bright but lazy” student – and that’s what my dad did – if the monthly report showed I was underperforming he cracked down – I could do NOTHING but homework and extra studying. One month of that and I was back on track.

At the time I thought my dad was the meanest dad on the planet – in hindsight, I know he was doing it because he cared and wanted me to achieve my potential.

But – if paying for grades works – great. What is your backup plan if it doesn’t work?

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[quote=AN][quote=Eugene]
Okay, so how would it work if 80% of parents in the county (130,000 high school students) take their vouchers to Torrey Pines and Westview (combined capacity – 6,000 students)?[/quote]
I’m thinking a long the line of your second option, which is a lottery. Do you think parents who do not care about their kids’ education would take advantage of the voucher system? I personally think it would be the parents who do care that will take full advantage of it.
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How is the lottery any different than the choice system currently in place? You can apply to any school in the district – and they have some semi-random way of picking who gets to go. Once you get one child into the choiced school – the younger siblings can follow on. I know a couple of families that have choiced into LJHS and even more who upgraded to UCHS from Clairemont and Madison.

My kids go to Curie and they have classmates who have choiced in because they didn’t like the schools in Clairemont.

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[quote=AN][quote=Eugene]
Okay, so how would it work if 80% of parents in the county (130,000 high school students) take their vouchers to Torrey Pines and Westview (combined capacity – 6,000 students)?[/quote]
I’m thinking a long the line of your second option, which is a lottery. Do you think parents who do not care about their kids’ education would take advantage of the voucher system? I personally think it would be the parents who do care that will take full advantage of it.
[/quote]

How is the lottery any different than the choice system currently in place? You can apply to any school in the district – and they have some semi-random way of picking who gets to go. Once you get one child into the choiced school – the younger siblings can follow on. I know a couple of families that have choiced into LJHS and even more who upgraded to UCHS from Clairemont and Madison.

My kids go to Curie and they have classmates who have choiced in because they didn’t like the schools in Clairemont.

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[quote=AN][quote=Eugene]
Okay, so how would it work if 80% of parents in the county (130,000 high school students) take their vouchers to Torrey Pines and Westview (combined capacity – 6,000 students)?[/quote]
I’m thinking a long the line of your second option, which is a lottery. Do you think parents who do not care about their kids’ education would take advantage of the voucher system? I personally think it would be the parents who do care that will take full advantage of it.
[/quote]

How is the lottery any different than the choice system currently in place? You can apply to any school in the district – and they have some semi-random way of picking who gets to go. Once you get one child into the choiced school – the younger siblings can follow on. I know a couple of families that have choiced into LJHS and even more who upgraded to UCHS from Clairemont and Madison.

My kids go to Curie and they have classmates who have choiced in because they didn’t like the schools in Clairemont.

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[quote=AN][quote=Eugene]
Okay, so how would it work if 80% of parents in the county (130,000 high school students) take their vouchers to Torrey Pines and Westview (combined capacity – 6,000 students)?[/quote]
I’m thinking a long the line of your second option, which is a lottery. Do you think parents who do not care about their kids’ education would take advantage of the voucher system? I personally think it would be the parents who do care that will take full advantage of it.
[/quote]

How is the lottery any different than the choice system currently in place? You can apply to any school in the district – and they have some semi-random way of picking who gets to go. Once you get one child into the choiced school – the younger siblings can follow on. I know a couple of families that have choiced into LJHS and even more who upgraded to UCHS from Clairemont and Madison.

My kids go to Curie and they have classmates who have choiced in because they didn’t like the schools in Clairemont.

[UCGal]

[quote=AN][quote=Eugene]
Okay, so how would it work if 80% of parents in the county (130,000 high school students) take their vouchers to Torrey Pines and Westview (combined capacity – 6,000 students)?[/quote]
I’m thinking a long the line of your second option, which is a lottery. Do you think parents who do not care about their kids’ education would take advantage of the voucher system? I personally think it would be the parents who do care that will take full advantage of it.
[/quote]

How is the lottery any different than the choice system currently in place? You can apply to any school in the district – and they have some semi-random way of picking who gets to go. Once you get one child into the choiced school – the younger siblings can follow on. I know a couple of families that have choiced into LJHS and even more who upgraded to UCHS from Clairemont and Madison.

My kids go to Curie and they have classmates who have choiced in because they didn’t like the schools in Clairemont.

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[quote=SD Realtor]Call or email HLS. [email protected].
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I’m with SDR… Call Sheldon. I just did a refi with him and he’s honest, and easy to work with. That seems pretty unusual in mortgage brokers.

As far as your decision… It’s so far out of my comfort zone – I wouldn’t do it. I’m pretty conservative when it comes to money decisions, though. I can’t give advise on something I would never consider myself.

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[quote=SD Realtor]Call or email HLS. [email protected].
[/quote]

I’m with SDR… Call Sheldon. I just did a refi with him and he’s honest, and easy to work with. That seems pretty unusual in mortgage brokers.

As far as your decision… It’s so far out of my comfort zone – I wouldn’t do it. I’m pretty conservative when it comes to money decisions, though. I can’t give advise on something I would never consider myself.

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[quote=SD Realtor]Call or email HLS. [email protected].
[/quote]

I’m with SDR… Call Sheldon. I just did a refi with him and he’s honest, and easy to work with. That seems pretty unusual in mortgage brokers.

As far as your decision… It’s so far out of my comfort zone – I wouldn’t do it. I’m pretty conservative when it comes to money decisions, though. I can’t give advise on something I would never consider myself.

[UCGal]

[quote=SD Realtor]Call or email HLS. [email protected].
[/quote]

I’m with SDR… Call Sheldon. I just did a refi with him and he’s honest, and easy to work with. That seems pretty unusual in mortgage brokers.

As far as your decision… It’s so far out of my comfort zone – I wouldn’t do it. I’m pretty conservative when it comes to money decisions, though. I can’t give advise on something I would never consider myself.

[UCGal]

[quote=SD Realtor]Call or email HLS. [email protected].
[/quote]

I’m with SDR… Call Sheldon. I just did a refi with him and he’s honest, and easy to work with. That seems pretty unusual in mortgage brokers.

As far as your decision… It’s so far out of my comfort zone – I wouldn’t do it. I’m pretty conservative when it comes to money decisions, though. I can’t give advise on something I would never consider myself.

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I’ve been thinking about this since I read it yesterday. Aren’t school districts funded, in part, by property taxes within their boundaries.

I don’t think this plan is about race – it’s about $$$.

If you carve off the coast (more expensive real estate) then the per-student allotment can be higher. Too bad for those folks who live in less expensive areas.

Demographics also suggest that more expensive areas have higher numbers of college educated professionals than less expensive neighborhoods – so you’re also selecting, in a broad statistical way, a potentially higher performing student population.

Eugene mentioned UC – which is my ‘hood… I noticed he didn’t mention Spreckel’s demographics. Spreckels is a Spanish Language Magnet – so it draws from the entire district – and has a MUCH higher ratio of hispanic compared to the other 2 elementaries that feed into UCHS. (Which might be a factor for why UCHS student body is more hispanic than the neighborhood at large.)

Personally, I like diversity. I also see this plan as dead, politically… not going to happen. But, realistically, it might improve Standley MS and UCHS – which is where my kids will be attending.

[UCGal]

I’ve been thinking about this since I read it yesterday. Aren’t school districts funded, in part, by property taxes within their boundaries.

I don’t think this plan is about race – it’s about $$$.

If you carve off the coast (more expensive real estate) then the per-student allotment can be higher. Too bad for those folks who live in less expensive areas.

Demographics also suggest that more expensive areas have higher numbers of college educated professionals than less expensive neighborhoods – so you’re also selecting, in a broad statistical way, a potentially higher performing student population.

Eugene mentioned UC – which is my ‘hood… I noticed he didn’t mention Spreckel’s demographics. Spreckels is a Spanish Language Magnet – so it draws from the entire district – and has a MUCH higher ratio of hispanic compared to the other 2 elementaries that feed into UCHS. (Which might be a factor for why UCHS student body is more hispanic than the neighborhood at large.)

Personally, I like diversity. I also see this plan as dead, politically… not going to happen. But, realistically, it might improve Standley MS and UCHS – which is where my kids will be attending.

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