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[quote=paddyoh]You ain’t gonna believe this. Just had to listen to another Jeff Bridges Hyundai ad on the TV Machine.
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Paddy – can you do all of us a favor and get yourself a Tivo or some other DVR. Perhaps if you are able to fast forward through commercials you won’t obsess about which celebs are in them.

I truly do not understand this Don Quixote quest of yours to label everyone who doesn’t agree 100% as unamerican and to protest a paid gig that Jeff Bridges took. But it appears that Jeff Bridges and Hyundai are your windmills.

If you are so upset about Jeff Bridges and Hyundai may I respectfully suggest that you
a) don’t buy a hyundai
b) don’t go to Jeff Bridges movies.

But please stop trying to force your view on the rest of us. We aren’t in the same Quixotic haze – see windmills, not dragons and maids in distress.

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[quote=paddyoh]You ain’t gonna believe this. Just had to listen to another Jeff Bridges Hyundai ad on the TV Machine.
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Paddy – can you do all of us a favor and get yourself a Tivo or some other DVR. Perhaps if you are able to fast forward through commercials you won’t obsess about which celebs are in them.

I truly do not understand this Don Quixote quest of yours to label everyone who doesn’t agree 100% as unamerican and to protest a paid gig that Jeff Bridges took. But it appears that Jeff Bridges and Hyundai are your windmills.

If you are so upset about Jeff Bridges and Hyundai may I respectfully suggest that you
a) don’t buy a hyundai
b) don’t go to Jeff Bridges movies.

But please stop trying to force your view on the rest of us. We aren’t in the same Quixotic haze – see windmills, not dragons and maids in distress.

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[quote=paddyoh]You ain’t gonna believe this. Just had to listen to another Jeff Bridges Hyundai ad on the TV Machine.
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Paddy – can you do all of us a favor and get yourself a Tivo or some other DVR. Perhaps if you are able to fast forward through commercials you won’t obsess about which celebs are in them.

I truly do not understand this Don Quixote quest of yours to label everyone who doesn’t agree 100% as unamerican and to protest a paid gig that Jeff Bridges took. But it appears that Jeff Bridges and Hyundai are your windmills.

If you are so upset about Jeff Bridges and Hyundai may I respectfully suggest that you
a) don’t buy a hyundai
b) don’t go to Jeff Bridges movies.

But please stop trying to force your view on the rest of us. We aren’t in the same Quixotic haze – see windmills, not dragons and maids in distress.

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[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Cool little video but I don’t entirely understand it. The orange bars are just housing prices? Or some ratio of housing prices to local income? ‘Cause I have to think that household incomes varied among these cities too.[/quote]

I had the same question as Cricket.

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[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Cool little video but I don’t entirely understand it. The orange bars are just housing prices? Or some ratio of housing prices to local income? ‘Cause I have to think that household incomes varied among these cities too.[/quote]

I had the same question as Cricket.

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[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Cool little video but I don’t entirely understand it. The orange bars are just housing prices? Or some ratio of housing prices to local income? ‘Cause I have to think that household incomes varied among these cities too.[/quote]

I had the same question as Cricket.

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[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Cool little video but I don’t entirely understand it. The orange bars are just housing prices? Or some ratio of housing prices to local income? ‘Cause I have to think that household incomes varied among these cities too.[/quote]

I had the same question as Cricket.

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[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Cool little video but I don’t entirely understand it. The orange bars are just housing prices? Or some ratio of housing prices to local income? ‘Cause I have to think that household incomes varied among these cities too.[/quote]

I had the same question as Cricket.

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It doesn’t surprise me that banks aren’t acting in their own best interest… they didn’t on the way up, either.

May I ask an impertinant question? If the home had kept its value would you be staying in the home? Are you going through foreclosure because the home lost value, even though you still have the means to pay the mortgage you obtained?

I have friends who are pursueing a short sale – but in their case they lost one of the two household jobs. They are going back to renting a smaller place to live within their downsized budget. It sounds, from your tale, that they may stand a better chance of getting the short sale approved since they have a documented “distress” with the job loss.

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It doesn’t surprise me that banks aren’t acting in their own best interest… they didn’t on the way up, either.

May I ask an impertinant question? If the home had kept its value would you be staying in the home? Are you going through foreclosure because the home lost value, even though you still have the means to pay the mortgage you obtained?

I have friends who are pursueing a short sale – but in their case they lost one of the two household jobs. They are going back to renting a smaller place to live within their downsized budget. It sounds, from your tale, that they may stand a better chance of getting the short sale approved since they have a documented “distress” with the job loss.

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It doesn’t surprise me that banks aren’t acting in their own best interest… they didn’t on the way up, either.

May I ask an impertinant question? If the home had kept its value would you be staying in the home? Are you going through foreclosure because the home lost value, even though you still have the means to pay the mortgage you obtained?

I have friends who are pursueing a short sale – but in their case they lost one of the two household jobs. They are going back to renting a smaller place to live within their downsized budget. It sounds, from your tale, that they may stand a better chance of getting the short sale approved since they have a documented “distress” with the job loss.

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It doesn’t surprise me that banks aren’t acting in their own best interest… they didn’t on the way up, either.

May I ask an impertinant question? If the home had kept its value would you be staying in the home? Are you going through foreclosure because the home lost value, even though you still have the means to pay the mortgage you obtained?

I have friends who are pursueing a short sale – but in their case they lost one of the two household jobs. They are going back to renting a smaller place to live within their downsized budget. It sounds, from your tale, that they may stand a better chance of getting the short sale approved since they have a documented “distress” with the job loss.

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It doesn’t surprise me that banks aren’t acting in their own best interest… they didn’t on the way up, either.

May I ask an impertinant question? If the home had kept its value would you be staying in the home? Are you going through foreclosure because the home lost value, even though you still have the means to pay the mortgage you obtained?

I have friends who are pursueing a short sale – but in their case they lost one of the two household jobs. They are going back to renting a smaller place to live within their downsized budget. It sounds, from your tale, that they may stand a better chance of getting the short sale approved since they have a documented “distress” with the job loss.

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[quote=Sarah G.]Invest or don’t invest. Personally, I don’t care. But utilize facts. Don’t make unsubstantiated generalizations and don’t mislead. If you question whether or not there is a personal guarantee and personal liability to Bartko, ask them or ask your attorney.
What should you do when you invest? Diversify.
There isn’t a right or wrong.
I can take either side and play devil’s advocate. But again, it doesn’t make this a good or bad investment. If, it is as presented, it might be a spectacular investment. Other than opinion here, there are no facts that are negative. Unless you invest, you won’t know if it is good and you won’t know if it is bad. If you have facts, knowledge and feel comfortable, invest or don’t invest. But make a decision based upon fact and knowledge not unsubstantiated opinion.

Lastly: Use your own opinion and especially utilize facts. If you are interested in the investment. Contact them. That’s the only way you’ll get “good” information and fact. You won’t learn anything here from posters that have opinion and no fact.

Sarah G.[/quote]

I think one of the issues here is the lack of supporting facts. Your advise seems to be “invest and hope”. You admit you can’t confirm it’s an “awesome” or “spectacular” investment until you put money at risk.

As others have pointed out – the business model seems very non-traditional for procurement for fortune 500 companies. I can’t speak to all fortune 500 companies – only the one I work for… this isn’t the way things are done here. That is a fact.

When NeetaT asked for documentation she was told they didn’t have any. (Read the OP.)

My point about the contractor was simple. You can enter a business arrangement (with starblaze, with a contractor, …) have clearly defined documents and have one side fail to perform and worse. You seem to suggest that if there are no complaints out there – you should assume the other party in the business arrangement is on the Up and Up. My experience shows this to be a bad assumption. Apples and bowling balls – it’s all business transactions.

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[quote=Sarah G.]Invest or don’t invest. Personally, I don’t care. But utilize facts. Don’t make unsubstantiated generalizations and don’t mislead. If you question whether or not there is a personal guarantee and personal liability to Bartko, ask them or ask your attorney.
What should you do when you invest? Diversify.
There isn’t a right or wrong.
I can take either side and play devil’s advocate. But again, it doesn’t make this a good or bad investment. If, it is as presented, it might be a spectacular investment. Other than opinion here, there are no facts that are negative. Unless you invest, you won’t know if it is good and you won’t know if it is bad. If you have facts, knowledge and feel comfortable, invest or don’t invest. But make a decision based upon fact and knowledge not unsubstantiated opinion.

Lastly: Use your own opinion and especially utilize facts. If you are interested in the investment. Contact them. That’s the only way you’ll get “good” information and fact. You won’t learn anything here from posters that have opinion and no fact.

Sarah G.[/quote]

I think one of the issues here is the lack of supporting facts. Your advise seems to be “invest and hope”. You admit you can’t confirm it’s an “awesome” or “spectacular” investment until you put money at risk.

As others have pointed out – the business model seems very non-traditional for procurement for fortune 500 companies. I can’t speak to all fortune 500 companies – only the one I work for… this isn’t the way things are done here. That is a fact.

When NeetaT asked for documentation she was told they didn’t have any. (Read the OP.)

My point about the contractor was simple. You can enter a business arrangement (with starblaze, with a contractor, …) have clearly defined documents and have one side fail to perform and worse. You seem to suggest that if there are no complaints out there – you should assume the other party in the business arrangement is on the Up and Up. My experience shows this to be a bad assumption. Apples and bowling balls – it’s all business transactions.

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