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Participant[quote=jpinpb]
At the same time, I think it’s a given that mass transit facilitates allowing the people to frequent communities they ordinarily would not. The concern is the criminal element a trolley would bring to UTC.
[/quote]I lived briefly in Atlanta, and worked in the burbs (Gwinnett County). Gwinnett County blocked the MARTA gold line from entering the county. The Gold line ends right at the county line. Many of the stated reasons were fears of higher crime rates.
Having lived there – I suspect it has more to do with demographics – Gwinnett is 2/3’s white and Fulton & DeKalb counties (which have MARTA lines) are closer to 50% black. Don’t want “those people” coming into their county. (I realize that may be controversial – but racism was much more open in Atlanta than I was used to. It was an easy conclusion to reach – one my white coworkers would probably have agreed with.)
I remember when they first put in the trolley to the south bay in 1981. The planners had no clue that it would be more than a tourist attraction – and were surprised to find ridership was really high with commuters from day one.
There’s a lot of people who commute to businesses in and around the UTC mall. Not to mention UCSD. I would imagine there will be shuttle buses to serve the Torrey pines research park area – the same way the coaster has shuttle buses going into Sorrento Valley.
Participant[quote=jpinpb]
At the same time, I think it’s a given that mass transit facilitates allowing the people to frequent communities they ordinarily would not. The concern is the criminal element a trolley would bring to UTC.
[/quote]I lived briefly in Atlanta, and worked in the burbs (Gwinnett County). Gwinnett County blocked the MARTA gold line from entering the county. The Gold line ends right at the county line. Many of the stated reasons were fears of higher crime rates.
Having lived there – I suspect it has more to do with demographics – Gwinnett is 2/3’s white and Fulton & DeKalb counties (which have MARTA lines) are closer to 50% black. Don’t want “those people” coming into their county. (I realize that may be controversial – but racism was much more open in Atlanta than I was used to. It was an easy conclusion to reach – one my white coworkers would probably have agreed with.)
I remember when they first put in the trolley to the south bay in 1981. The planners had no clue that it would be more than a tourist attraction – and were surprised to find ridership was really high with commuters from day one.
There’s a lot of people who commute to businesses in and around the UTC mall. Not to mention UCSD. I would imagine there will be shuttle buses to serve the Torrey pines research park area – the same way the coaster has shuttle buses going into Sorrento Valley.
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]What about COSTCO employees?)[/quote]
They could walk from Balboa Ave… It’s only about a mile (or so).
I used to walk further in high school – uphill both ways… through the snow…. (Did I mention I grew up in San Diego – so the snow part was really challenging.)
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]What about COSTCO employees?)[/quote]
They could walk from Balboa Ave… It’s only about a mile (or so).
I used to walk further in high school – uphill both ways… through the snow…. (Did I mention I grew up in San Diego – so the snow part was really challenging.)
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]What about COSTCO employees?)[/quote]
They could walk from Balboa Ave… It’s only about a mile (or so).
I used to walk further in high school – uphill both ways… through the snow…. (Did I mention I grew up in San Diego – so the snow part was really challenging.)
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]What about COSTCO employees?)[/quote]
They could walk from Balboa Ave… It’s only about a mile (or so).
I used to walk further in high school – uphill both ways… through the snow…. (Did I mention I grew up in San Diego – so the snow part was really challenging.)
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]What about COSTCO employees?)[/quote]
They could walk from Balboa Ave… It’s only about a mile (or so).
I used to walk further in high school – uphill both ways… through the snow…. (Did I mention I grew up in San Diego – so the snow part was really challenging.)
Participant[quote=briansd1]I’m in support of public mass transit so I think that it’s great.
UTC needs a trolley to serve the university. I know that students who don’t have cars would love it.
People who want quiet and isolation might feel differently.[/quote]
If you live in North UC (UTC side of UC) then quiet and isolation are pretty hard to find. It’s a very dense area. The proposed routes would not impact south UC (the older/south side of UC).
The routes proposed would go along existing train tracks – so there’s no additional noise…. trolleys are quieter than amtrak.
Participant[quote=briansd1]I’m in support of public mass transit so I think that it’s great.
UTC needs a trolley to serve the university. I know that students who don’t have cars would love it.
People who want quiet and isolation might feel differently.[/quote]
If you live in North UC (UTC side of UC) then quiet and isolation are pretty hard to find. It’s a very dense area. The proposed routes would not impact south UC (the older/south side of UC).
The routes proposed would go along existing train tracks – so there’s no additional noise…. trolleys are quieter than amtrak.
Participant[quote=briansd1]I’m in support of public mass transit so I think that it’s great.
UTC needs a trolley to serve the university. I know that students who don’t have cars would love it.
People who want quiet and isolation might feel differently.[/quote]
If you live in North UC (UTC side of UC) then quiet and isolation are pretty hard to find. It’s a very dense area. The proposed routes would not impact south UC (the older/south side of UC).
The routes proposed would go along existing train tracks – so there’s no additional noise…. trolleys are quieter than amtrak.
Participant[quote=briansd1]I’m in support of public mass transit so I think that it’s great.
UTC needs a trolley to serve the university. I know that students who don’t have cars would love it.
People who want quiet and isolation might feel differently.[/quote]
If you live in North UC (UTC side of UC) then quiet and isolation are pretty hard to find. It’s a very dense area. The proposed routes would not impact south UC (the older/south side of UC).
The routes proposed would go along existing train tracks – so there’s no additional noise…. trolleys are quieter than amtrak.
Participant[quote=briansd1]I’m in support of public mass transit so I think that it’s great.
UTC needs a trolley to serve the university. I know that students who don’t have cars would love it.
People who want quiet and isolation might feel differently.[/quote]
If you live in North UC (UTC side of UC) then quiet and isolation are pretty hard to find. It’s a very dense area. The proposed routes would not impact south UC (the older/south side of UC).
The routes proposed would go along existing train tracks – so there’s no additional noise…. trolleys are quieter than amtrak.
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]You got this wrong. It should have been -Seriously, if I saw my friend(s) and/or acquaintances(s) doing this, I would definitely take a long hard look at who I had as my friend(s) and/or acquaintances(s).[/quote]
Easier said than done… If your kid is friends with their kid – you’ll likely have to have some social interaction.These people are pleasant enough, but I won’t be looking to them for moral or financial advice.
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]You got this wrong. It should have been -Seriously, if I saw my friend(s) and/or acquaintances(s) doing this, I would definitely take a long hard look at who I had as my friend(s) and/or acquaintances(s).[/quote]
Easier said than done… If your kid is friends with their kid – you’ll likely have to have some social interaction.These people are pleasant enough, but I won’t be looking to them for moral or financial advice.
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