[UCGal]

Since we’re doing schools in our ‘hoods.

Curie (949)
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386039440

Black or African American 13 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 4 No
Asian 56 No
Filipino 16 No
Hispanic or Latino 49 No
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 3 No
White 248 Yes 960 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 46 No
English Learners 63 Yes 896 A A
Students with Disabilities 32 No

Spreckels (851) (Magnet school for spanish language)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386040174

Black or African American 24 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 3 No
Asian 31 No
Filipino 12 No
Hispanic or Latino 207 Yes 748 5 753
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 2 No
White 230 Yes 925 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 211 Yes 753 5 758
English Learners 172 Yes 747 5 752
Students with Disabilities 37 No

Doyle (878)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386099055

Black or African American 23 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 3 No
Asian 109 Yes 930 A A
Filipino 11 No
Hispanic or Latino 89 Yes 800 A A
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 3 No
White 177 Yes 905 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 100 Yes 792 5 797
English Learners 129 Yes 862 A A
Students with Disabilities 26 No

As a parent of 2 Curie students… It’s a good school – but demographics play a MUCH larger role in the test scores than the teachers…

It seems like most Curie parents have PhDs, Typical parents are scientists, academics, engineers. Not a lot of blue collar types. Kind of scary how uber-educated the parents are. Very homongenous student body from a socio economic standpoint (which I think is kind of a bad thing for the students.)

My sister teaches at Spreckels – because it’s a spanish language magnet you have a lot more english learners, kids from lower socio economic backgrounds, etc. But it’s also a “seminar” school – meaning there’s a subset of super smart kids, too.

[UCGal]

Since we’re doing schools in our ‘hoods.

Curie (949)
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386039440

Black or African American 13 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 4 No
Asian 56 No
Filipino 16 No
Hispanic or Latino 49 No
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 3 No
White 248 Yes 960 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 46 No
English Learners 63 Yes 896 A A
Students with Disabilities 32 No

Spreckels (851) (Magnet school for spanish language)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386040174

Black or African American 24 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 3 No
Asian 31 No
Filipino 12 No
Hispanic or Latino 207 Yes 748 5 753
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 2 No
White 230 Yes 925 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 211 Yes 753 5 758
English Learners 172 Yes 747 5 752
Students with Disabilities 37 No

Doyle (878)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386099055

Black or African American 23 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 3 No
Asian 109 Yes 930 A A
Filipino 11 No
Hispanic or Latino 89 Yes 800 A A
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 3 No
White 177 Yes 905 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 100 Yes 792 5 797
English Learners 129 Yes 862 A A
Students with Disabilities 26 No

As a parent of 2 Curie students… It’s a good school – but demographics play a MUCH larger role in the test scores than the teachers…

It seems like most Curie parents have PhDs, Typical parents are scientists, academics, engineers. Not a lot of blue collar types. Kind of scary how uber-educated the parents are. Very homongenous student body from a socio economic standpoint (which I think is kind of a bad thing for the students.)

My sister teaches at Spreckels – because it’s a spanish language magnet you have a lot more english learners, kids from lower socio economic backgrounds, etc. But it’s also a “seminar” school – meaning there’s a subset of super smart kids, too.

[UCGal]

Since we’re doing schools in our ‘hoods.

Curie (949)
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386039440

Black or African American 13 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 4 No
Asian 56 No
Filipino 16 No
Hispanic or Latino 49 No
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 3 No
White 248 Yes 960 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 46 No
English Learners 63 Yes 896 A A
Students with Disabilities 32 No

Spreckels (851) (Magnet school for spanish language)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386040174

Black or African American 24 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 3 No
Asian 31 No
Filipino 12 No
Hispanic or Latino 207 Yes 748 5 753
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 2 No
White 230 Yes 925 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 211 Yes 753 5 758
English Learners 172 Yes 747 5 752
Students with Disabilities 37 No

Doyle (878)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37683386099055

Black or African American 23 No
American Indian or Alaska Native 3 No
Asian 109 Yes 930 A A
Filipino 11 No
Hispanic or Latino 89 Yes 800 A A
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander 3 No
White 177 Yes 905 A A
Two or More Races 0 No
Socioeconomically Disadvantaged 100 Yes 792 5 797
English Learners 129 Yes 862 A A
Students with Disabilities 26 No

As a parent of 2 Curie students… It’s a good school – but demographics play a MUCH larger role in the test scores than the teachers…

It seems like most Curie parents have PhDs, Typical parents are scientists, academics, engineers. Not a lot of blue collar types. Kind of scary how uber-educated the parents are. Very homongenous student body from a socio economic standpoint (which I think is kind of a bad thing for the students.)

My sister teaches at Spreckels – because it’s a spanish language magnet you have a lot more english learners, kids from lower socio economic backgrounds, etc. But it’s also a “seminar” school – meaning there’s a subset of super smart kids, too.

[UCGal]

[quote=walterwhite]QUIZ:

did people have social skills before we started corraling children into schools?

Is there anything natural about that many kids together that long int he day sitting around listening to a teacher?

Are we teaching (a) social skills or (b) pecking order survival skills?

ANSWER KEY:

1. yes.
2. No.
3. B.[/quote]
Interesting quiz, scaredy… I’m going to have to think about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=walterwhite]QUIZ:

did people have social skills before we started corraling children into schools?

Is there anything natural about that many kids together that long int he day sitting around listening to a teacher?

Are we teaching (a) social skills or (b) pecking order survival skills?

ANSWER KEY:

1. yes.
2. No.
3. B.[/quote]
Interesting quiz, scaredy… I’m going to have to think about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=walterwhite]QUIZ:

did people have social skills before we started corraling children into schools?

Is there anything natural about that many kids together that long int he day sitting around listening to a teacher?

Are we teaching (a) social skills or (b) pecking order survival skills?

ANSWER KEY:

1. yes.
2. No.
3. B.[/quote]
Interesting quiz, scaredy… I’m going to have to think about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=walterwhite]QUIZ:

did people have social skills before we started corraling children into schools?

Is there anything natural about that many kids together that long int he day sitting around listening to a teacher?

Are we teaching (a) social skills or (b) pecking order survival skills?

ANSWER KEY:

1. yes.
2. No.
3. B.[/quote]
Interesting quiz, scaredy… I’m going to have to think about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=walterwhite]QUIZ:

did people have social skills before we started corraling children into schools?

Is there anything natural about that many kids together that long int he day sitting around listening to a teacher?

Are we teaching (a) social skills or (b) pecking order survival skills?

ANSWER KEY:

1. yes.
2. No.
3. B.[/quote]
Interesting quiz, scaredy… I’m going to have to think about this.

[UCGal]

[quote=eavesdropper]
But when you get to the mid- and high-level positions (for which there is no internal candidate) that require significant work experience and advanced education, the pay is equal to, or quite often, significantly less than private sector. [/quote]

And don’t forget the fact that the people who do the work day in and day, who’ve worked their way up, with experience and education, have to deal with figurehead political appointee bosses that come and go based on election results and often do not have a clear understanding of the work being done at that department. (I’ve heard more than one earful about this from friends/family)

[UCGal]

[quote=eavesdropper]
But when you get to the mid- and high-level positions (for which there is no internal candidate) that require significant work experience and advanced education, the pay is equal to, or quite often, significantly less than private sector. [/quote]

And don’t forget the fact that the people who do the work day in and day, who’ve worked their way up, with experience and education, have to deal with figurehead political appointee bosses that come and go based on election results and often do not have a clear understanding of the work being done at that department. (I’ve heard more than one earful about this from friends/family)

[UCGal]

[quote=eavesdropper]
But when you get to the mid- and high-level positions (for which there is no internal candidate) that require significant work experience and advanced education, the pay is equal to, or quite often, significantly less than private sector. [/quote]

And don’t forget the fact that the people who do the work day in and day, who’ve worked their way up, with experience and education, have to deal with figurehead political appointee bosses that come and go based on election results and often do not have a clear understanding of the work being done at that department. (I’ve heard more than one earful about this from friends/family)

[UCGal]

[quote=eavesdropper]
But when you get to the mid- and high-level positions (for which there is no internal candidate) that require significant work experience and advanced education, the pay is equal to, or quite often, significantly less than private sector. [/quote]

And don’t forget the fact that the people who do the work day in and day, who’ve worked their way up, with experience and education, have to deal with figurehead political appointee bosses that come and go based on election results and often do not have a clear understanding of the work being done at that department. (I’ve heard more than one earful about this from friends/family)

[UCGal]

[quote=eavesdropper]
But when you get to the mid- and high-level positions (for which there is no internal candidate) that require significant work experience and advanced education, the pay is equal to, or quite often, significantly less than private sector. [/quote]

And don’t forget the fact that the people who do the work day in and day, who’ve worked their way up, with experience and education, have to deal with figurehead political appointee bosses that come and go based on election results and often do not have a clear understanding of the work being done at that department. (I’ve heard more than one earful about this from friends/family)

[UCGal]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]Gates: Colleges’ future is on the web

I think he also said children can learn independently.

Well anyway, what I am getting at is in the near future I think it will not matter what school district you live in (or not as much anyway) as most education will be web based.[/quote]
Hijack off of Temecula and onto web based learning.

Gosh I hope schools don’t go 100% online. While some education can be done on the web – not all of it. How do you do science projects? How do you do art? How do you learn social skills? The internet is a tool – but it cannot replace the school environment. It can supplement, sure, but not replace… at least not at the younger ages.

Part of the value of school is the social skills a child develops. (And one of the reasons I, personally, would not homeschool my kids.) Learning to interact with other kids – especially ones you don’t like or get along with – is a key part of education and very important preparation for adulthood.

[UCGal]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]Gates: Colleges’ future is on the web

I think he also said children can learn independently.

Well anyway, what I am getting at is in the near future I think it will not matter what school district you live in (or not as much anyway) as most education will be web based.[/quote]
Hijack off of Temecula and onto web based learning.

Gosh I hope schools don’t go 100% online. While some education can be done on the web – not all of it. How do you do science projects? How do you do art? How do you learn social skills? The internet is a tool – but it cannot replace the school environment. It can supplement, sure, but not replace… at least not at the younger ages.

Part of the value of school is the social skills a child develops. (And one of the reasons I, personally, would not homeschool my kids.) Learning to interact with other kids – especially ones you don’t like or get along with – is a key part of education and very important preparation for adulthood.

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