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Participant[quote=cvmom] As she gets older, it gets more and more important for her to find peers who are also excited about math. One great resource (starts in fifth grade) is the San Diego Math Circle. It runs on Saturday mornings at UCSD, and was founded by another Poway parent. http://www.sdmathcircle.org/ Actually though, I think they do have some things for younger kids at the Math Circle now as well.
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thank you so much for posting this link. It sounds like a great thing for my older son next year. (He’s currently in 4th, and it starts at grade 5.) I’ll have to see if it conflicts with is first lego league stuff… but it looks very cool.UCGal
Participant[quote=cvmom] As she gets older, it gets more and more important for her to find peers who are also excited about math. One great resource (starts in fifth grade) is the San Diego Math Circle. It runs on Saturday mornings at UCSD, and was founded by another Poway parent. http://www.sdmathcircle.org/ Actually though, I think they do have some things for younger kids at the Math Circle now as well.
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thank you so much for posting this link. It sounds like a great thing for my older son next year. (He’s currently in 4th, and it starts at grade 5.) I’ll have to see if it conflicts with is first lego league stuff… but it looks very cool.UCGal
Participantcarli – that is good to hear about DMUSD expanding their GATE program. That’s the opposite trend of San Diego schools. They still have a GATE program – but funds are being cut and Seminar classes are increasing in size next year.
I’ve compared notes with coworkers about the GATE programs in PUSD, SDUSD, and DMUSD. The are a couple of differences. I know the most about SDUSD because I live in San Diego and my kids go to public school in San Diego.
Poway and San Diego districts do Gate testing in the 2nd grade. In fact my younger son is being tested tomorrow. From what I’ve heard from CV coworkers the testing isn’t till 5th grade in that district.
San Diego has GATE – which is for kids in the top 2%. And it has Seminar – which is for kids in the top 0.3% or something like that.
Seminar classes are homogeneous and smaller class size. GATE classes tend to follow the cluster model – at least 1/3 of the students in the class are identified GATE – and in theory – the teacher offers differentiation so that the GATE kids can work ahead of grade level, or delve deeper into a subject. Some of the elementary school were offering homogeneous classes for GATE, but the district has moved away from that. Doyle was doing this until recently.Schools vary widely – so it’s good to get info about individual schools and how they implement the GATE program and/or Seminar Program. The “site surveys” are online.
http://www.sandi.net/20451072011453310/blank/browse.asp?a=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=56090&20451072011453310Nav=|287|&NodeID=287There can be pretty different approaches to seminar programs. Some emphasize the Socratic method, others may do tiered lessons. (Spreckels Elem. is big on Socratic method, Hawthorne is more about using tiered lessons to allow differentiation.) So the seminar programs should be looked at to see which school is a good fit – if your child tests in.
SDUSD also allows a retest in 5th grade for kids who either didn’t test GATE, or tested GATE and want to be tested for Seminar. To qualify for the retest the first test has to have had a score of 85% or better. (98% is the minimum for GATE) and they have to have scored Advanced on 5 CSTs.
UCGal
Participantcarli – that is good to hear about DMUSD expanding their GATE program. That’s the opposite trend of San Diego schools. They still have a GATE program – but funds are being cut and Seminar classes are increasing in size next year.
I’ve compared notes with coworkers about the GATE programs in PUSD, SDUSD, and DMUSD. The are a couple of differences. I know the most about SDUSD because I live in San Diego and my kids go to public school in San Diego.
Poway and San Diego districts do Gate testing in the 2nd grade. In fact my younger son is being tested tomorrow. From what I’ve heard from CV coworkers the testing isn’t till 5th grade in that district.
San Diego has GATE – which is for kids in the top 2%. And it has Seminar – which is for kids in the top 0.3% or something like that.
Seminar classes are homogeneous and smaller class size. GATE classes tend to follow the cluster model – at least 1/3 of the students in the class are identified GATE – and in theory – the teacher offers differentiation so that the GATE kids can work ahead of grade level, or delve deeper into a subject. Some of the elementary school were offering homogeneous classes for GATE, but the district has moved away from that. Doyle was doing this until recently.Schools vary widely – so it’s good to get info about individual schools and how they implement the GATE program and/or Seminar Program. The “site surveys” are online.
http://www.sandi.net/20451072011453310/blank/browse.asp?a=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=56090&20451072011453310Nav=|287|&NodeID=287There can be pretty different approaches to seminar programs. Some emphasize the Socratic method, others may do tiered lessons. (Spreckels Elem. is big on Socratic method, Hawthorne is more about using tiered lessons to allow differentiation.) So the seminar programs should be looked at to see which school is a good fit – if your child tests in.
SDUSD also allows a retest in 5th grade for kids who either didn’t test GATE, or tested GATE and want to be tested for Seminar. To qualify for the retest the first test has to have had a score of 85% or better. (98% is the minimum for GATE) and they have to have scored Advanced on 5 CSTs.
UCGal
Participantcarli – that is good to hear about DMUSD expanding their GATE program. That’s the opposite trend of San Diego schools. They still have a GATE program – but funds are being cut and Seminar classes are increasing in size next year.
I’ve compared notes with coworkers about the GATE programs in PUSD, SDUSD, and DMUSD. The are a couple of differences. I know the most about SDUSD because I live in San Diego and my kids go to public school in San Diego.
Poway and San Diego districts do Gate testing in the 2nd grade. In fact my younger son is being tested tomorrow. From what I’ve heard from CV coworkers the testing isn’t till 5th grade in that district.
San Diego has GATE – which is for kids in the top 2%. And it has Seminar – which is for kids in the top 0.3% or something like that.
Seminar classes are homogeneous and smaller class size. GATE classes tend to follow the cluster model – at least 1/3 of the students in the class are identified GATE – and in theory – the teacher offers differentiation so that the GATE kids can work ahead of grade level, or delve deeper into a subject. Some of the elementary school were offering homogeneous classes for GATE, but the district has moved away from that. Doyle was doing this until recently.Schools vary widely – so it’s good to get info about individual schools and how they implement the GATE program and/or Seminar Program. The “site surveys” are online.
http://www.sandi.net/20451072011453310/blank/browse.asp?a=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=56090&20451072011453310Nav=|287|&NodeID=287There can be pretty different approaches to seminar programs. Some emphasize the Socratic method, others may do tiered lessons. (Spreckels Elem. is big on Socratic method, Hawthorne is more about using tiered lessons to allow differentiation.) So the seminar programs should be looked at to see which school is a good fit – if your child tests in.
SDUSD also allows a retest in 5th grade for kids who either didn’t test GATE, or tested GATE and want to be tested for Seminar. To qualify for the retest the first test has to have had a score of 85% or better. (98% is the minimum for GATE) and they have to have scored Advanced on 5 CSTs.
UCGal
Participantcarli – that is good to hear about DMUSD expanding their GATE program. That’s the opposite trend of San Diego schools. They still have a GATE program – but funds are being cut and Seminar classes are increasing in size next year.
I’ve compared notes with coworkers about the GATE programs in PUSD, SDUSD, and DMUSD. The are a couple of differences. I know the most about SDUSD because I live in San Diego and my kids go to public school in San Diego.
Poway and San Diego districts do Gate testing in the 2nd grade. In fact my younger son is being tested tomorrow. From what I’ve heard from CV coworkers the testing isn’t till 5th grade in that district.
San Diego has GATE – which is for kids in the top 2%. And it has Seminar – which is for kids in the top 0.3% or something like that.
Seminar classes are homogeneous and smaller class size. GATE classes tend to follow the cluster model – at least 1/3 of the students in the class are identified GATE – and in theory – the teacher offers differentiation so that the GATE kids can work ahead of grade level, or delve deeper into a subject. Some of the elementary school were offering homogeneous classes for GATE, but the district has moved away from that. Doyle was doing this until recently.Schools vary widely – so it’s good to get info about individual schools and how they implement the GATE program and/or Seminar Program. The “site surveys” are online.
http://www.sandi.net/20451072011453310/blank/browse.asp?a=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=56090&20451072011453310Nav=|287|&NodeID=287There can be pretty different approaches to seminar programs. Some emphasize the Socratic method, others may do tiered lessons. (Spreckels Elem. is big on Socratic method, Hawthorne is more about using tiered lessons to allow differentiation.) So the seminar programs should be looked at to see which school is a good fit – if your child tests in.
SDUSD also allows a retest in 5th grade for kids who either didn’t test GATE, or tested GATE and want to be tested for Seminar. To qualify for the retest the first test has to have had a score of 85% or better. (98% is the minimum for GATE) and they have to have scored Advanced on 5 CSTs.
UCGal
Participantcarli – that is good to hear about DMUSD expanding their GATE program. That’s the opposite trend of San Diego schools. They still have a GATE program – but funds are being cut and Seminar classes are increasing in size next year.
I’ve compared notes with coworkers about the GATE programs in PUSD, SDUSD, and DMUSD. The are a couple of differences. I know the most about SDUSD because I live in San Diego and my kids go to public school in San Diego.
Poway and San Diego districts do Gate testing in the 2nd grade. In fact my younger son is being tested tomorrow. From what I’ve heard from CV coworkers the testing isn’t till 5th grade in that district.
San Diego has GATE – which is for kids in the top 2%. And it has Seminar – which is for kids in the top 0.3% or something like that.
Seminar classes are homogeneous and smaller class size. GATE classes tend to follow the cluster model – at least 1/3 of the students in the class are identified GATE – and in theory – the teacher offers differentiation so that the GATE kids can work ahead of grade level, or delve deeper into a subject. Some of the elementary school were offering homogeneous classes for GATE, but the district has moved away from that. Doyle was doing this until recently.Schools vary widely – so it’s good to get info about individual schools and how they implement the GATE program and/or Seminar Program. The “site surveys” are online.
http://www.sandi.net/20451072011453310/blank/browse.asp?a=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=56090&20451072011453310Nav=|287|&NodeID=287There can be pretty different approaches to seminar programs. Some emphasize the Socratic method, others may do tiered lessons. (Spreckels Elem. is big on Socratic method, Hawthorne is more about using tiered lessons to allow differentiation.) So the seminar programs should be looked at to see which school is a good fit – if your child tests in.
SDUSD also allows a retest in 5th grade for kids who either didn’t test GATE, or tested GATE and want to be tested for Seminar. To qualify for the retest the first test has to have had a score of 85% or better. (98% is the minimum for GATE) and they have to have scored Advanced on 5 CSTs.
February 17, 2011 at 2:17 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #667512UCGal
ParticipantBrian.
In your dream world all homes older than 10 years would be razed and replaced. You constantly go on about functional obsolescence.
These homes aren’t obsolete. They are out of style. Styles change. Preferences change. But the houses still function as they did when they were designed.
There are people who enjoy older homes.
Life is full of choices. You can choose to buy a newer home. But if all the old homes are razed – then those of us who like older homes are denied that choice.
Do you really think that families would move from the suburbs of the north county and east county if the older homes were knocked down and new “functionally better” homes were put in their place? No. The schools are the same. The job centers have shifted out of downtown to the outskirts… there would not be a flight from the suburbs to the central San Diego areas if you razed Mission Hills, Kensington, North/South Park, Clairemont, Linda Vista, etc.
Looking at the pictures in the article – it looks like it was once a really special mission style house. The type they are trying to make happen again in Santa Luz.
February 17, 2011 at 2:17 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #667573UCGal
ParticipantBrian.
In your dream world all homes older than 10 years would be razed and replaced. You constantly go on about functional obsolescence.
These homes aren’t obsolete. They are out of style. Styles change. Preferences change. But the houses still function as they did when they were designed.
There are people who enjoy older homes.
Life is full of choices. You can choose to buy a newer home. But if all the old homes are razed – then those of us who like older homes are denied that choice.
Do you really think that families would move from the suburbs of the north county and east county if the older homes were knocked down and new “functionally better” homes were put in their place? No. The schools are the same. The job centers have shifted out of downtown to the outskirts… there would not be a flight from the suburbs to the central San Diego areas if you razed Mission Hills, Kensington, North/South Park, Clairemont, Linda Vista, etc.
Looking at the pictures in the article – it looks like it was once a really special mission style house. The type they are trying to make happen again in Santa Luz.
February 17, 2011 at 2:17 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #668182UCGal
ParticipantBrian.
In your dream world all homes older than 10 years would be razed and replaced. You constantly go on about functional obsolescence.
These homes aren’t obsolete. They are out of style. Styles change. Preferences change. But the houses still function as they did when they were designed.
There are people who enjoy older homes.
Life is full of choices. You can choose to buy a newer home. But if all the old homes are razed – then those of us who like older homes are denied that choice.
Do you really think that families would move from the suburbs of the north county and east county if the older homes were knocked down and new “functionally better” homes were put in their place? No. The schools are the same. The job centers have shifted out of downtown to the outskirts… there would not be a flight from the suburbs to the central San Diego areas if you razed Mission Hills, Kensington, North/South Park, Clairemont, Linda Vista, etc.
Looking at the pictures in the article – it looks like it was once a really special mission style house. The type they are trying to make happen again in Santa Luz.
February 17, 2011 at 2:17 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #668320UCGal
ParticipantBrian.
In your dream world all homes older than 10 years would be razed and replaced. You constantly go on about functional obsolescence.
These homes aren’t obsolete. They are out of style. Styles change. Preferences change. But the houses still function as they did when they were designed.
There are people who enjoy older homes.
Life is full of choices. You can choose to buy a newer home. But if all the old homes are razed – then those of us who like older homes are denied that choice.
Do you really think that families would move from the suburbs of the north county and east county if the older homes were knocked down and new “functionally better” homes were put in their place? No. The schools are the same. The job centers have shifted out of downtown to the outskirts… there would not be a flight from the suburbs to the central San Diego areas if you razed Mission Hills, Kensington, North/South Park, Clairemont, Linda Vista, etc.
Looking at the pictures in the article – it looks like it was once a really special mission style house. The type they are trying to make happen again in Santa Luz.
February 17, 2011 at 2:17 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #668663UCGal
ParticipantBrian.
In your dream world all homes older than 10 years would be razed and replaced. You constantly go on about functional obsolescence.
These homes aren’t obsolete. They are out of style. Styles change. Preferences change. But the houses still function as they did when they were designed.
There are people who enjoy older homes.
Life is full of choices. You can choose to buy a newer home. But if all the old homes are razed – then those of us who like older homes are denied that choice.
Do you really think that families would move from the suburbs of the north county and east county if the older homes were knocked down and new “functionally better” homes were put in their place? No. The schools are the same. The job centers have shifted out of downtown to the outskirts… there would not be a flight from the suburbs to the central San Diego areas if you razed Mission Hills, Kensington, North/South Park, Clairemont, Linda Vista, etc.
Looking at the pictures in the article – it looks like it was once a really special mission style house. The type they are trying to make happen again in Santa Luz.
UCGal
Participant[quote=jstoesz]Only termites and whores like the custom homes of point loma. Did I mention the amphetamines (but I digress)!
Better off buying in the paradise of carmel valley. Much better value, better schools, and NEW homes!
Leave point loma for the bums and traffic of rosecrans. There is nothing past nimitz…[/quote]
LOL – that definitely made me chuckle… Drive everyone away from Pt. Loma so the prices drop and you can buy.When we first moved back to San Diego we considered Liberty Station… (2001 timeframe). We eliminated it pretty quick because they had deed restrictions that the homes must be owner occupied. In other words – if you were transferred out of town, and wanted to rent out the house until you moved back – you couldn’t. That was a deal breaker for us.
I worked near Midway and Rosecrans for a few years in college – definitely a central/convenient location. I lived out at the other end of Rosecrans part of that time – on Upshur… Loved it. (Didn’t love the roommates – but loved the location.)
Plane noise is an issue. But views and the boat culture (it seems most Pt Loma folks are seriously into boating.) offset the noise.
UCGal
Participant[quote=jstoesz]Only termites and whores like the custom homes of point loma. Did I mention the amphetamines (but I digress)!
Better off buying in the paradise of carmel valley. Much better value, better schools, and NEW homes!
Leave point loma for the bums and traffic of rosecrans. There is nothing past nimitz…[/quote]
LOL – that definitely made me chuckle… Drive everyone away from Pt. Loma so the prices drop and you can buy.When we first moved back to San Diego we considered Liberty Station… (2001 timeframe). We eliminated it pretty quick because they had deed restrictions that the homes must be owner occupied. In other words – if you were transferred out of town, and wanted to rent out the house until you moved back – you couldn’t. That was a deal breaker for us.
I worked near Midway and Rosecrans for a few years in college – definitely a central/convenient location. I lived out at the other end of Rosecrans part of that time – on Upshur… Loved it. (Didn’t love the roommates – but loved the location.)
Plane noise is an issue. But views and the boat culture (it seems most Pt Loma folks are seriously into boating.) offset the noise.
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