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February 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #669821February 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #669960
UCGal
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The cratsmans are more like 1100sf with one bathroom, and no central HVAC.I understand what you’re saying, but the local government should not empower those selfish fighters. Nobody is forcing them leave. But if someone wants to build a new house down the road, that’s their business.
People normally take the path of least resistance. Building a new residence is not easy — only people with wherewithal and patience do it. If you add fighting City Hall to that, then families will take the path of least resistance and buy new tract houses. The old neighborhoods end up in decay.
Neighborhoods normally stay the same for about 50 years, the useful life of wood houses. Beyond that, they need maintenance and rebuilding.
Without organic growth, we end up with neighborhoods frozen in the decades they were build.
Society changes and we need housing to change with the way people live. Building new housing is a long process which already lags the needs of people by years if not decades.
Just my 2 cents…. I know I will never get it my way.[/quote]
Brian – you’ve been spending time in Philly.
I lived in the northern burbs of Philly – Glenside to be exact. The house I lived in was wood framed – as were most of the homes in the neighborhood (not stone or brick). It was 85 years old when I bought it. It’s still there today. A family lived in it before me. I was single (but had a roommmate). The people that bought it have 3 children.Somehow all of these folks survived with one bathroom. The same is true for most of the neighborhood – 100 year old homes, 1 bathroom (even some of the larger 6 bedroom homes only had 1 bath). Many have had additions put on – with a bathroom… but not all.
It is one of the most charming neighborhoods. Highly walkable (restaurants, bars, family run hardware store, the Keswick Theater – a venue that brings in well known national acts.)
By your logic the neighborhood should have been razed in the 50’s and re-razed again within the last 10 years… After all – homes only last 50 years and no one could possible live without central air. (My PA house didn’t have central air – just window units…. my current house doesn’t have central air and we don’t need window units.)
Seriously, dude, you can’t impose your ideas of what’s livable on others. The market place decides. Last I checked, older homes in Mission Hills, North Park, Kensington, etc are selling. People like these homes. Even if you don’t.
February 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM in reply to: When is a house historic and when is it a teardown? #670303UCGal
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The cratsmans are more like 1100sf with one bathroom, and no central HVAC.I understand what you’re saying, but the local government should not empower those selfish fighters. Nobody is forcing them leave. But if someone wants to build a new house down the road, that’s their business.
People normally take the path of least resistance. Building a new residence is not easy — only people with wherewithal and patience do it. If you add fighting City Hall to that, then families will take the path of least resistance and buy new tract houses. The old neighborhoods end up in decay.
Neighborhoods normally stay the same for about 50 years, the useful life of wood houses. Beyond that, they need maintenance and rebuilding.
Without organic growth, we end up with neighborhoods frozen in the decades they were build.
Society changes and we need housing to change with the way people live. Building new housing is a long process which already lags the needs of people by years if not decades.
Just my 2 cents…. I know I will never get it my way.[/quote]
Brian – you’ve been spending time in Philly.
I lived in the northern burbs of Philly – Glenside to be exact. The house I lived in was wood framed – as were most of the homes in the neighborhood (not stone or brick). It was 85 years old when I bought it. It’s still there today. A family lived in it before me. I was single (but had a roommmate). The people that bought it have 3 children.Somehow all of these folks survived with one bathroom. The same is true for most of the neighborhood – 100 year old homes, 1 bathroom (even some of the larger 6 bedroom homes only had 1 bath). Many have had additions put on – with a bathroom… but not all.
It is one of the most charming neighborhoods. Highly walkable (restaurants, bars, family run hardware store, the Keswick Theater – a venue that brings in well known national acts.)
By your logic the neighborhood should have been razed in the 50’s and re-razed again within the last 10 years… After all – homes only last 50 years and no one could possible live without central air. (My PA house didn’t have central air – just window units…. my current house doesn’t have central air and we don’t need window units.)
Seriously, dude, you can’t impose your ideas of what’s livable on others. The market place decides. Last I checked, older homes in Mission Hills, North Park, Kensington, etc are selling. People like these homes. Even if you don’t.
UCGal
ParticipantObviously I think UC is a good choice… (hence my moniker). But the houses don’t appeal to many… Older, not as big, typically. But many (not all) are on larger lots. The elementary schools are good, the middle and high school have been slipping. Still better than most in SDUSD… but San Diegito and Poway high schools are better.
For the OP – UC has two parts. South UC is mostly single family homes. It’s served by Spreckels on the west side and Curie on the east side. (disclaimer, my sister teaches at Spreckels and my kids go to Curie – as did I a LONG time ago.) The north half of UC (north of Rose Canyon) is mostly condos, newer, and much more congested.
As I mentioned earlier – the one program that SDUSD has that Poway and CV schools don’t (as far as I know) is the Seminar program. But it’s a very small percentage that make it in. If your kids are super gifted – it’s something to think about. (My son was close… but no cigar.)
UCGal
ParticipantObviously I think UC is a good choice… (hence my moniker). But the houses don’t appeal to many… Older, not as big, typically. But many (not all) are on larger lots. The elementary schools are good, the middle and high school have been slipping. Still better than most in SDUSD… but San Diegito and Poway high schools are better.
For the OP – UC has two parts. South UC is mostly single family homes. It’s served by Spreckels on the west side and Curie on the east side. (disclaimer, my sister teaches at Spreckels and my kids go to Curie – as did I a LONG time ago.) The north half of UC (north of Rose Canyon) is mostly condos, newer, and much more congested.
As I mentioned earlier – the one program that SDUSD has that Poway and CV schools don’t (as far as I know) is the Seminar program. But it’s a very small percentage that make it in. If your kids are super gifted – it’s something to think about. (My son was close… but no cigar.)
UCGal
ParticipantObviously I think UC is a good choice… (hence my moniker). But the houses don’t appeal to many… Older, not as big, typically. But many (not all) are on larger lots. The elementary schools are good, the middle and high school have been slipping. Still better than most in SDUSD… but San Diegito and Poway high schools are better.
For the OP – UC has two parts. South UC is mostly single family homes. It’s served by Spreckels on the west side and Curie on the east side. (disclaimer, my sister teaches at Spreckels and my kids go to Curie – as did I a LONG time ago.) The north half of UC (north of Rose Canyon) is mostly condos, newer, and much more congested.
As I mentioned earlier – the one program that SDUSD has that Poway and CV schools don’t (as far as I know) is the Seminar program. But it’s a very small percentage that make it in. If your kids are super gifted – it’s something to think about. (My son was close… but no cigar.)
UCGal
ParticipantObviously I think UC is a good choice… (hence my moniker). But the houses don’t appeal to many… Older, not as big, typically. But many (not all) are on larger lots. The elementary schools are good, the middle and high school have been slipping. Still better than most in SDUSD… but San Diegito and Poway high schools are better.
For the OP – UC has two parts. South UC is mostly single family homes. It’s served by Spreckels on the west side and Curie on the east side. (disclaimer, my sister teaches at Spreckels and my kids go to Curie – as did I a LONG time ago.) The north half of UC (north of Rose Canyon) is mostly condos, newer, and much more congested.
As I mentioned earlier – the one program that SDUSD has that Poway and CV schools don’t (as far as I know) is the Seminar program. But it’s a very small percentage that make it in. If your kids are super gifted – it’s something to think about. (My son was close… but no cigar.)
UCGal
ParticipantObviously I think UC is a good choice… (hence my moniker). But the houses don’t appeal to many… Older, not as big, typically. But many (not all) are on larger lots. The elementary schools are good, the middle and high school have been slipping. Still better than most in SDUSD… but San Diegito and Poway high schools are better.
For the OP – UC has two parts. South UC is mostly single family homes. It’s served by Spreckels on the west side and Curie on the east side. (disclaimer, my sister teaches at Spreckels and my kids go to Curie – as did I a LONG time ago.) The north half of UC (north of Rose Canyon) is mostly condos, newer, and much more congested.
As I mentioned earlier – the one program that SDUSD has that Poway and CV schools don’t (as far as I know) is the Seminar program. But it’s a very small percentage that make it in. If your kids are super gifted – it’s something to think about. (My son was close… but no cigar.)
UCGal
ParticipantWe’re in process of redoing our kitchen. We’re mainly refacing/resurfacing… but making a few more structural changes… Including changing out our countertop range with a slide in range/oven. (We will keep our wall oven so we’ll have 2 ovens total.)
After drooling over the super high end ranges, we found one we love that is less pricey (but still not cheap.) We’re going for a Bertazzoni.
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/freestanding/professional-series/ranges/30-4-burner-gas-rangeWe cook a lot – but this is still a splurge. What I like about it is the LACK of electronics. Less to go wrong. And the no-frills Italian aesthetic is all good. Pacific Sales carries Bertazzoni – but it looks like it will be cheaper online.
UCGal
ParticipantWe’re in process of redoing our kitchen. We’re mainly refacing/resurfacing… but making a few more structural changes… Including changing out our countertop range with a slide in range/oven. (We will keep our wall oven so we’ll have 2 ovens total.)
After drooling over the super high end ranges, we found one we love that is less pricey (but still not cheap.) We’re going for a Bertazzoni.
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/freestanding/professional-series/ranges/30-4-burner-gas-rangeWe cook a lot – but this is still a splurge. What I like about it is the LACK of electronics. Less to go wrong. And the no-frills Italian aesthetic is all good. Pacific Sales carries Bertazzoni – but it looks like it will be cheaper online.
UCGal
ParticipantWe’re in process of redoing our kitchen. We’re mainly refacing/resurfacing… but making a few more structural changes… Including changing out our countertop range with a slide in range/oven. (We will keep our wall oven so we’ll have 2 ovens total.)
After drooling over the super high end ranges, we found one we love that is less pricey (but still not cheap.) We’re going for a Bertazzoni.
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/freestanding/professional-series/ranges/30-4-burner-gas-rangeWe cook a lot – but this is still a splurge. What I like about it is the LACK of electronics. Less to go wrong. And the no-frills Italian aesthetic is all good. Pacific Sales carries Bertazzoni – but it looks like it will be cheaper online.
UCGal
ParticipantWe’re in process of redoing our kitchen. We’re mainly refacing/resurfacing… but making a few more structural changes… Including changing out our countertop range with a slide in range/oven. (We will keep our wall oven so we’ll have 2 ovens total.)
After drooling over the super high end ranges, we found one we love that is less pricey (but still not cheap.) We’re going for a Bertazzoni.
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/freestanding/professional-series/ranges/30-4-burner-gas-rangeWe cook a lot – but this is still a splurge. What I like about it is the LACK of electronics. Less to go wrong. And the no-frills Italian aesthetic is all good. Pacific Sales carries Bertazzoni – but it looks like it will be cheaper online.
UCGal
ParticipantWe’re in process of redoing our kitchen. We’re mainly refacing/resurfacing… but making a few more structural changes… Including changing out our countertop range with a slide in range/oven. (We will keep our wall oven so we’ll have 2 ovens total.)
After drooling over the super high end ranges, we found one we love that is less pricey (but still not cheap.) We’re going for a Bertazzoni.
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/freestanding/professional-series/ranges/30-4-burner-gas-rangeWe cook a lot – but this is still a splurge. What I like about it is the LACK of electronics. Less to go wrong. And the no-frills Italian aesthetic is all good. Pacific Sales carries Bertazzoni – but it looks like it will be cheaper online.
UCGal
Participant[quote=cvmom] As she gets older, it gets more and more important for her to find peers who are also excited about math. One great resource (starts in fifth grade) is the San Diego Math Circle. It runs on Saturday mornings at UCSD, and was founded by another Poway parent. http://www.sdmathcircle.org/ Actually though, I think they do have some things for younger kids at the Math Circle now as well.
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thank you so much for posting this link. It sounds like a great thing for my older son next year. (He’s currently in 4th, and it starts at grade 5.) I’ll have to see if it conflicts with is first lego league stuff… but it looks very cool.UCGal
Participant[quote=cvmom] As she gets older, it gets more and more important for her to find peers who are also excited about math. One great resource (starts in fifth grade) is the San Diego Math Circle. It runs on Saturday mornings at UCSD, and was founded by another Poway parent. http://www.sdmathcircle.org/ Actually though, I think they do have some things for younger kids at the Math Circle now as well.
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thank you so much for posting this link. It sounds like a great thing for my older son next year. (He’s currently in 4th, and it starts at grade 5.) I’ll have to see if it conflicts with is first lego league stuff… but it looks very cool. -
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