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[quote=jpinpb]Sometimes I think that if brian were in charge, the Painted Ladies in San Francisco wouldn’t exist and would be replaced w/contemporary row houses.[/quote]
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[quote=jpinpb]Sometimes I think that if brian were in charge, the Painted Ladies in San Francisco wouldn’t exist and would be replaced w/contemporary row houses.[/quote]
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[quote=jpinpb]Sometimes I think that if brian were in charge, the Painted Ladies in San Francisco wouldn’t exist and would be replaced w/contemporary row houses.[/quote]
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[quote=briansd1]
BTW, in Philly, many big old houses have been converted to apartments. Why not in San Diego? In San Diego, you can’t have a house with a rental apartment within.
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This is not true. There are homes that have been converted to apartments – or converted sections to legal granny flats.

In my college years my friends and I often rented apartments in older homes. These had separate addresses – so theoretically they were legal. This was in North Park, Bird Rock, Kensington, Hillcrest. Here’s an example or a listing that took a single family home and converted.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/1233-Roslyn-Ln-92037/home/4905974
When we were weighing whether to go forward with the granny flat project we looked at several existing 2 unit places that were conversions from a SFR to a multi-unit. Unfortunately, none of them worked from a wheel chair accessible POV. But they are out there.

To say that San Diego does not allow conversion of a space to a rental unit is just a lie. It may not be easy – they may make you jump through hoops – but there are places out there. And I have lived the process of getting a permit to build a granny flat – so I know from first hand experience you CAN add a rentable space to your SFR lot. (If you meet certain criteria and have patience to deal with the planning dept.)

I lived in a victorian house at 8th and Beech in dowtown for most of the 80’s… It was a single family, Irving Gill designed house – that had been converted to 6 apartments. It’s sad to see a beautiful old home like that surrounded by badly done condos.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego&aq=&sll=32.72084,-117.157506&sspn=0.002751,0.004039&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego,+California+92101&ll=32.720938,-117.157474&spn=0.00816,0.016158&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.720832,-117.1575&panoid=uWcoELF3d_0ZuOtAgTMUSQ&cbp=12,94.56,,0,-6.86

All of this is my long winded way of saying… BS on the part I quoted above.

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[quote=briansd1]
BTW, in Philly, many big old houses have been converted to apartments. Why not in San Diego? In San Diego, you can’t have a house with a rental apartment within.
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This is not true. There are homes that have been converted to apartments – or converted sections to legal granny flats.

In my college years my friends and I often rented apartments in older homes. These had separate addresses – so theoretically they were legal. This was in North Park, Bird Rock, Kensington, Hillcrest. Here’s an example or a listing that took a single family home and converted.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/1233-Roslyn-Ln-92037/home/4905974
When we were weighing whether to go forward with the granny flat project we looked at several existing 2 unit places that were conversions from a SFR to a multi-unit. Unfortunately, none of them worked from a wheel chair accessible POV. But they are out there.

To say that San Diego does not allow conversion of a space to a rental unit is just a lie. It may not be easy – they may make you jump through hoops – but there are places out there. And I have lived the process of getting a permit to build a granny flat – so I know from first hand experience you CAN add a rentable space to your SFR lot. (If you meet certain criteria and have patience to deal with the planning dept.)

I lived in a victorian house at 8th and Beech in dowtown for most of the 80’s… It was a single family, Irving Gill designed house – that had been converted to 6 apartments. It’s sad to see a beautiful old home like that surrounded by badly done condos.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego&aq=&sll=32.72084,-117.157506&sspn=0.002751,0.004039&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego,+California+92101&ll=32.720938,-117.157474&spn=0.00816,0.016158&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.720832,-117.1575&panoid=uWcoELF3d_0ZuOtAgTMUSQ&cbp=12,94.56,,0,-6.86

All of this is my long winded way of saying… BS on the part I quoted above.

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[quote=briansd1]
BTW, in Philly, many big old houses have been converted to apartments. Why not in San Diego? In San Diego, you can’t have a house with a rental apartment within.
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This is not true. There are homes that have been converted to apartments – or converted sections to legal granny flats.

In my college years my friends and I often rented apartments in older homes. These had separate addresses – so theoretically they were legal. This was in North Park, Bird Rock, Kensington, Hillcrest. Here’s an example or a listing that took a single family home and converted.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/1233-Roslyn-Ln-92037/home/4905974
When we were weighing whether to go forward with the granny flat project we looked at several existing 2 unit places that were conversions from a SFR to a multi-unit. Unfortunately, none of them worked from a wheel chair accessible POV. But they are out there.

To say that San Diego does not allow conversion of a space to a rental unit is just a lie. It may not be easy – they may make you jump through hoops – but there are places out there. And I have lived the process of getting a permit to build a granny flat – so I know from first hand experience you CAN add a rentable space to your SFR lot. (If you meet certain criteria and have patience to deal with the planning dept.)

I lived in a victorian house at 8th and Beech in dowtown for most of the 80’s… It was a single family, Irving Gill designed house – that had been converted to 6 apartments. It’s sad to see a beautiful old home like that surrounded by badly done condos.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego&aq=&sll=32.72084,-117.157506&sspn=0.002751,0.004039&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego,+California+92101&ll=32.720938,-117.157474&spn=0.00816,0.016158&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.720832,-117.1575&panoid=uWcoELF3d_0ZuOtAgTMUSQ&cbp=12,94.56,,0,-6.86

All of this is my long winded way of saying… BS on the part I quoted above.

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[quote=briansd1]
BTW, in Philly, many big old houses have been converted to apartments. Why not in San Diego? In San Diego, you can’t have a house with a rental apartment within.
[/quote]

This is not true. There are homes that have been converted to apartments – or converted sections to legal granny flats.

In my college years my friends and I often rented apartments in older homes. These had separate addresses – so theoretically they were legal. This was in North Park, Bird Rock, Kensington, Hillcrest. Here’s an example or a listing that took a single family home and converted.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/1233-Roslyn-Ln-92037/home/4905974
When we were weighing whether to go forward with the granny flat project we looked at several existing 2 unit places that were conversions from a SFR to a multi-unit. Unfortunately, none of them worked from a wheel chair accessible POV. But they are out there.

To say that San Diego does not allow conversion of a space to a rental unit is just a lie. It may not be easy – they may make you jump through hoops – but there are places out there. And I have lived the process of getting a permit to build a granny flat – so I know from first hand experience you CAN add a rentable space to your SFR lot. (If you meet certain criteria and have patience to deal with the planning dept.)

I lived in a victorian house at 8th and Beech in dowtown for most of the 80’s… It was a single family, Irving Gill designed house – that had been converted to 6 apartments. It’s sad to see a beautiful old home like that surrounded by badly done condos.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego&aq=&sll=32.72084,-117.157506&sspn=0.002751,0.004039&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego,+California+92101&ll=32.720938,-117.157474&spn=0.00816,0.016158&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.720832,-117.1575&panoid=uWcoELF3d_0ZuOtAgTMUSQ&cbp=12,94.56,,0,-6.86

All of this is my long winded way of saying… BS on the part I quoted above.

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[quote=briansd1]
BTW, in Philly, many big old houses have been converted to apartments. Why not in San Diego? In San Diego, you can’t have a house with a rental apartment within.
[/quote]

This is not true. There are homes that have been converted to apartments – or converted sections to legal granny flats.

In my college years my friends and I often rented apartments in older homes. These had separate addresses – so theoretically they were legal. This was in North Park, Bird Rock, Kensington, Hillcrest. Here’s an example or a listing that took a single family home and converted.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/1233-Roslyn-Ln-92037/home/4905974
When we were weighing whether to go forward with the granny flat project we looked at several existing 2 unit places that were conversions from a SFR to a multi-unit. Unfortunately, none of them worked from a wheel chair accessible POV. But they are out there.

To say that San Diego does not allow conversion of a space to a rental unit is just a lie. It may not be easy – they may make you jump through hoops – but there are places out there. And I have lived the process of getting a permit to build a granny flat – so I know from first hand experience you CAN add a rentable space to your SFR lot. (If you meet certain criteria and have patience to deal with the planning dept.)

I lived in a victorian house at 8th and Beech in dowtown for most of the 80’s… It was a single family, Irving Gill designed house – that had been converted to 6 apartments. It’s sad to see a beautiful old home like that surrounded by badly done condos.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego&aq=&sll=32.72084,-117.157506&sspn=0.002751,0.004039&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1485+8th+Ave,+San+Diego,+California+92101&ll=32.720938,-117.157474&spn=0.00816,0.016158&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.720832,-117.1575&panoid=uWcoELF3d_0ZuOtAgTMUSQ&cbp=12,94.56,,0,-6.86

All of this is my long winded way of saying… BS on the part I quoted above.

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Jim Klinge specializes in north county coastal. I’m an avid reader of his blog and if I was looking in CV or along the coast north of there, I’d choose him because he’s such a straight shooter.

sdrealtor lives somewhere near Encinitas – knows that area really well.

SD Realtor lives in Scripps and knows the Scripps/PQ/Poway area really well.

I’m not a realtor – but can answer any questions you have about UC from the perspective of a resident. I grew up in UC (attended Curie in the 60’s!) and my kids are going to Curie now. My sister also lives in UC on the west side and teaches at Spreckels. I’ve got a lot of current and historical knowledge of UC – especially south UC (the area with the single family homes). Feel free to ask question, or pm me if you want.

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Jim Klinge specializes in north county coastal. I’m an avid reader of his blog and if I was looking in CV or along the coast north of there, I’d choose him because he’s such a straight shooter.

sdrealtor lives somewhere near Encinitas – knows that area really well.

SD Realtor lives in Scripps and knows the Scripps/PQ/Poway area really well.

I’m not a realtor – but can answer any questions you have about UC from the perspective of a resident. I grew up in UC (attended Curie in the 60’s!) and my kids are going to Curie now. My sister also lives in UC on the west side and teaches at Spreckels. I’ve got a lot of current and historical knowledge of UC – especially south UC (the area with the single family homes). Feel free to ask question, or pm me if you want.

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Jim Klinge specializes in north county coastal. I’m an avid reader of his blog and if I was looking in CV or along the coast north of there, I’d choose him because he’s such a straight shooter.

sdrealtor lives somewhere near Encinitas – knows that area really well.

SD Realtor lives in Scripps and knows the Scripps/PQ/Poway area really well.

I’m not a realtor – but can answer any questions you have about UC from the perspective of a resident. I grew up in UC (attended Curie in the 60’s!) and my kids are going to Curie now. My sister also lives in UC on the west side and teaches at Spreckels. I’ve got a lot of current and historical knowledge of UC – especially south UC (the area with the single family homes). Feel free to ask question, or pm me if you want.

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Jim Klinge specializes in north county coastal. I’m an avid reader of his blog and if I was looking in CV or along the coast north of there, I’d choose him because he’s such a straight shooter.

sdrealtor lives somewhere near Encinitas – knows that area really well.

SD Realtor lives in Scripps and knows the Scripps/PQ/Poway area really well.

I’m not a realtor – but can answer any questions you have about UC from the perspective of a resident. I grew up in UC (attended Curie in the 60’s!) and my kids are going to Curie now. My sister also lives in UC on the west side and teaches at Spreckels. I’ve got a lot of current and historical knowledge of UC – especially south UC (the area with the single family homes). Feel free to ask question, or pm me if you want.

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Jim Klinge specializes in north county coastal. I’m an avid reader of his blog and if I was looking in CV or along the coast north of there, I’d choose him because he’s such a straight shooter.

sdrealtor lives somewhere near Encinitas – knows that area really well.

SD Realtor lives in Scripps and knows the Scripps/PQ/Poway area really well.

I’m not a realtor – but can answer any questions you have about UC from the perspective of a resident. I grew up in UC (attended Curie in the 60’s!) and my kids are going to Curie now. My sister also lives in UC on the west side and teaches at Spreckels. I’ve got a lot of current and historical knowledge of UC – especially south UC (the area with the single family homes). Feel free to ask question, or pm me if you want.

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[quote=briansd1]
The cratsmans are more like 1100sf with one bathroom, and no central HVAC.

I understand what you’re saying, but the local government should not empower those selfish fighters. Nobody is forcing them leave. But if someone wants to build a new house down the road, that’s their business.

People normally take the path of least resistance. Building a new residence is not easy — only people with wherewithal and patience do it. If you add fighting City Hall to that, then families will take the path of least resistance and buy new tract houses. The old neighborhoods end up in decay.

Neighborhoods normally stay the same for about 50 years, the useful life of wood houses. Beyond that, they need maintenance and rebuilding.

Without organic growth, we end up with neighborhoods frozen in the decades they were build.

Society changes and we need housing to change with the way people live. Building new housing is a long process which already lags the needs of people by years if not decades.

Just my 2 cents…. I know I will never get it my way.[/quote]

Brian – you’ve been spending time in Philly.
I lived in the northern burbs of Philly – Glenside to be exact. The house I lived in was wood framed – as were most of the homes in the neighborhood (not stone or brick). It was 85 years old when I bought it. It’s still there today. A family lived in it before me. I was single (but had a roommmate). The people that bought it have 3 children.

Somehow all of these folks survived with one bathroom. The same is true for most of the neighborhood – 100 year old homes, 1 bathroom (even some of the larger 6 bedroom homes only had 1 bath). Many have had additions put on – with a bathroom… but not all.

It is one of the most charming neighborhoods. Highly walkable (restaurants, bars, family run hardware store, the Keswick Theater – a venue that brings in well known national acts.)

By your logic the neighborhood should have been razed in the 50’s and re-razed again within the last 10 years… After all – homes only last 50 years and no one could possible live without central air. (My PA house didn’t have central air – just window units…. my current house doesn’t have central air and we don’t need window units.)

Seriously, dude, you can’t impose your ideas of what’s livable on others. The market place decides. Last I checked, older homes in Mission Hills, North Park, Kensington, etc are selling. People like these homes. Even if you don’t.

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[quote=briansd1]
The cratsmans are more like 1100sf with one bathroom, and no central HVAC.

I understand what you’re saying, but the local government should not empower those selfish fighters. Nobody is forcing them leave. But if someone wants to build a new house down the road, that’s their business.

People normally take the path of least resistance. Building a new residence is not easy — only people with wherewithal and patience do it. If you add fighting City Hall to that, then families will take the path of least resistance and buy new tract houses. The old neighborhoods end up in decay.

Neighborhoods normally stay the same for about 50 years, the useful life of wood houses. Beyond that, they need maintenance and rebuilding.

Without organic growth, we end up with neighborhoods frozen in the decades they were build.

Society changes and we need housing to change with the way people live. Building new housing is a long process which already lags the needs of people by years if not decades.

Just my 2 cents…. I know I will never get it my way.[/quote]

Brian – you’ve been spending time in Philly.
I lived in the northern burbs of Philly – Glenside to be exact. The house I lived in was wood framed – as were most of the homes in the neighborhood (not stone or brick). It was 85 years old when I bought it. It’s still there today. A family lived in it before me. I was single (but had a roommmate). The people that bought it have 3 children.

Somehow all of these folks survived with one bathroom. The same is true for most of the neighborhood – 100 year old homes, 1 bathroom (even some of the larger 6 bedroom homes only had 1 bath). Many have had additions put on – with a bathroom… but not all.

It is one of the most charming neighborhoods. Highly walkable (restaurants, bars, family run hardware store, the Keswick Theater – a venue that brings in well known national acts.)

By your logic the neighborhood should have been razed in the 50’s and re-razed again within the last 10 years… After all – homes only last 50 years and no one could possible live without central air. (My PA house didn’t have central air – just window units…. my current house doesn’t have central air and we don’t need window units.)

Seriously, dude, you can’t impose your ideas of what’s livable on others. The market place decides. Last I checked, older homes in Mission Hills, North Park, Kensington, etc are selling. People like these homes. Even if you don’t.

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