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January 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #336780January 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337108
TheBreeze
Participant[quote=partypup]
Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?
Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:
Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:
“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.
It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.
Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?
January 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337197TheBreeze
Participant[quote=partypup]
Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?
Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:
Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:
“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.
It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.
Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?
January 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337225TheBreeze
Participant[quote=partypup]
Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?
Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:
Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:
“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.
It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.
Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?
January 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337312TheBreeze
Participant[quote=partypup]
Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?
Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:
Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:
“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.
It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.
Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?
TheBreeze
ParticipantBy the way, I think these higher rates show that there is no way government can stop a deflationary spiral. The more they muck with the market, the higher rates are going to go and the less credit that will ultimately be available. Less credit=deflation.
Rich would argue that the government can just cut everyone a check for $10 million, but there would be a massive taxpayer revolt if that happened. Household wealth has decreased $20 trillion in two years ( http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KA23Dj07.html ) and there is starting to be some serious resistance to the paltry-in-comparison $800 billion stimulus that would be spent over the next two years.
There will also probably be some additional TARPs and other things that may amount to two or three trillion overall, but there is no way that the government is going to be able to keep up with the $10 trillion/year decline in household wealth.
Deflation here we come. I for one look forward to more reasonably priced goods and services.
TheBreeze
ParticipantBy the way, I think these higher rates show that there is no way government can stop a deflationary spiral. The more they muck with the market, the higher rates are going to go and the less credit that will ultimately be available. Less credit=deflation.
Rich would argue that the government can just cut everyone a check for $10 million, but there would be a massive taxpayer revolt if that happened. Household wealth has decreased $20 trillion in two years ( http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KA23Dj07.html ) and there is starting to be some serious resistance to the paltry-in-comparison $800 billion stimulus that would be spent over the next two years.
There will also probably be some additional TARPs and other things that may amount to two or three trillion overall, but there is no way that the government is going to be able to keep up with the $10 trillion/year decline in household wealth.
Deflation here we come. I for one look forward to more reasonably priced goods and services.
TheBreeze
ParticipantBy the way, I think these higher rates show that there is no way government can stop a deflationary spiral. The more they muck with the market, the higher rates are going to go and the less credit that will ultimately be available. Less credit=deflation.
Rich would argue that the government can just cut everyone a check for $10 million, but there would be a massive taxpayer revolt if that happened. Household wealth has decreased $20 trillion in two years ( http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KA23Dj07.html ) and there is starting to be some serious resistance to the paltry-in-comparison $800 billion stimulus that would be spent over the next two years.
There will also probably be some additional TARPs and other things that may amount to two or three trillion overall, but there is no way that the government is going to be able to keep up with the $10 trillion/year decline in household wealth.
Deflation here we come. I for one look forward to more reasonably priced goods and services.
TheBreeze
ParticipantBy the way, I think these higher rates show that there is no way government can stop a deflationary spiral. The more they muck with the market, the higher rates are going to go and the less credit that will ultimately be available. Less credit=deflation.
Rich would argue that the government can just cut everyone a check for $10 million, but there would be a massive taxpayer revolt if that happened. Household wealth has decreased $20 trillion in two years ( http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KA23Dj07.html ) and there is starting to be some serious resistance to the paltry-in-comparison $800 billion stimulus that would be spent over the next two years.
There will also probably be some additional TARPs and other things that may amount to two or three trillion overall, but there is no way that the government is going to be able to keep up with the $10 trillion/year decline in household wealth.
Deflation here we come. I for one look forward to more reasonably priced goods and services.
TheBreeze
ParticipantBy the way, I think these higher rates show that there is no way government can stop a deflationary spiral. The more they muck with the market, the higher rates are going to go and the less credit that will ultimately be available. Less credit=deflation.
Rich would argue that the government can just cut everyone a check for $10 million, but there would be a massive taxpayer revolt if that happened. Household wealth has decreased $20 trillion in two years ( http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KA23Dj07.html ) and there is starting to be some serious resistance to the paltry-in-comparison $800 billion stimulus that would be spent over the next two years.
There will also probably be some additional TARPs and other things that may amount to two or three trillion overall, but there is no way that the government is going to be able to keep up with the $10 trillion/year decline in household wealth.
Deflation here we come. I for one look forward to more reasonably priced goods and services.
January 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM in reply to: Stansd My brother’s PITI is 47% of his 60k income (wife, 2 kids) #335848TheBreeze
ParticipantI’ve told him he has to be willing to let it go to foreclosure to get the taxpayers to pay ball. As of now, he’s planning to stop paying both mortgages Feb 1.
Fixed Your Post.
January 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM in reply to: Stansd My brother’s PITI is 47% of his 60k income (wife, 2 kids) #336175TheBreeze
ParticipantI’ve told him he has to be willing to let it go to foreclosure to get the taxpayers to pay ball. As of now, he’s planning to stop paying both mortgages Feb 1.
Fixed Your Post.
January 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM in reply to: Stansd My brother’s PITI is 47% of his 60k income (wife, 2 kids) #336262TheBreeze
ParticipantI’ve told him he has to be willing to let it go to foreclosure to get the taxpayers to pay ball. As of now, he’s planning to stop paying both mortgages Feb 1.
Fixed Your Post.
January 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM in reply to: Stansd My brother’s PITI is 47% of his 60k income (wife, 2 kids) #336291TheBreeze
ParticipantI’ve told him he has to be willing to let it go to foreclosure to get the taxpayers to pay ball. As of now, he’s planning to stop paying both mortgages Feb 1.
Fixed Your Post.
January 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM in reply to: Stansd My brother’s PITI is 47% of his 60k income (wife, 2 kids) #336378TheBreeze
ParticipantI’ve told him he has to be willing to let it go to foreclosure to get the taxpayers to pay ball. As of now, he’s planning to stop paying both mortgages Feb 1.
Fixed Your Post.
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