[TheBreeze]

[quote=gothicreader]
But back to the original argument. Was I wrong about the increase in taxes in CA? If so, please enlightened me. [/quote]

Sales tax in California is going up. 1 percent. Yes, you were wrong to insinuate that anyone is going to be dissuaded from coming to California on vacation just because the sales tax has gone up 1 percent.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=gothicreader]
But back to the original argument. Was I wrong about the increase in taxes in CA? If so, please enlightened me. [/quote]

Sales tax in California is going up. 1 percent. Yes, you were wrong to insinuate that anyone is going to be dissuaded from coming to California on vacation just because the sales tax has gone up 1 percent.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=gothicreader]
But back to the original argument. Was I wrong about the increase in taxes in CA? If so, please enlightened me. [/quote]

Sales tax in California is going up. 1 percent. Yes, you were wrong to insinuate that anyone is going to be dissuaded from coming to California on vacation just because the sales tax has gone up 1 percent.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=gothicreader]
But back to the original argument. Was I wrong about the increase in taxes in CA? If so, please enlightened me. [/quote]

Sales tax in California is going up. 1 percent. Yes, you were wrong to insinuate that anyone is going to be dissuaded from coming to California on vacation just because the sales tax has gone up 1 percent.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=gothicreader]
But back to the original argument. Was I wrong about the increase in taxes in CA? If so, please enlightened me. [/quote]

Sales tax in California is going up. 1 percent. Yes, you were wrong to insinuate that anyone is going to be dissuaded from coming to California on vacation just because the sales tax has gone up 1 percent.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=DoJC]

1. People making $200,000+ per year represent a mere 7% of the population, yet they pay a whopping 62% of all federal income receipts.
[/quote]

I wonder how many of this group are bankers who only made their money by taking enormous risks over the last 30 years which is now being paid for by taxpayers?

When you think about it, Wall Street has essentially lost money over it’s entire existence since every few decades they lose all of the ‘profit’ they’ve made. Decades of lost ‘profit’ from Wall Street is now being paid by taxpayers.

What is really needed to be fair is a retroactive 100% wealth tax targeted at those who have made their money through banking/money management/etc over the last 30 years.

[quote=DoJC]
2. The richest 1% of all taxpayers earned above $388,806 paid 39.9% of all federal income receipts.

Tell me: how is it that the top 7% pay 62% of all federal income receipts and yet they’re both evil AND not paying their share?
[/quote]

You’re not too bright are you? To analyze this situation you would have to know what percent of total income these people took in. If the top 1% took in 39.9% of the income shouldn’t they account for 39.9% of the federal income reciepts? And if the top 7% took in 62% of the income, shouldn’t they pay 62% of the income tax?

Now, I don’t know what percent of national income these guys accounted for, but the way you framed the situation in your post is asinine.

[quote=DoJC]
Also – I’d like to know how anyone here would like it if their taxes were raised by 4% just because someone in the government felt they made enough money, and could easily afford another 4% in taxes? We’re screaming about our tax increases in CA, yet they’re tiny compared to what we’re talking about here.
[/quote]

That extra 4% is on income over $250K. Someone making $400K would at most pay an additional $6,000 (0.04 x $150K) in taxes. So the tax increase on someone making $400K is only 1.5% when calculated over their entire income. That’s hardly some great injustice.

[quote=DoJC]
This all reminds me of a story about the Nazis in WWII. IT goes like this: when they came for the Polish I did nothing because I wasn’t Polish. When they came for the lame I did nothing because I wasn’t lame. When they came for the Jews I did nothing because I wasn’t Jewish. When they came for me there was no one to defend me. No one here is in the effected tax brackets, and therefore think nothing about the government reaching into their pockets to shake them down for even more cash. Sadly, when these same people have their taxes raised by the same amount they will scream bloody murder.
[/quote]

This ridiculous analogy might be relevant if we took rich people and threw them into a gas chamber. Unfortunately, we don’t. Equating higher taxes to what the Nazis did makes you look like a total moron.

[quote=DoJC]
It’s a sad day for out country when everyone is crying about how evil and bad rich people are, and how they deserve to have their money taken away since they can afford it.
[/quote]

The banker class who grew rich by raping this country absolutely deserve to have their money taken away. They didn’t ‘earn’ that money, they just took ridiculous risks with other people’s money which is now being paid for by taxpayers.

[quote=DoJC]
I for one aspire to hit the highest tax bracket I can through various investments I plan to make. The idea of paying additional funds just because someone else thinks I can afford it is an affront![/quote]

If you aspire to get rich using your ‘intelligence’, and this post is any indication, I would venture to say that those higher taxes on rich folks will never affect you.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=DoJC]

1. People making $200,000+ per year represent a mere 7% of the population, yet they pay a whopping 62% of all federal income receipts.
[/quote]

I wonder how many of this group are bankers who only made their money by taking enormous risks over the last 30 years which is now being paid for by taxpayers?

When you think about it, Wall Street has essentially lost money over it’s entire existence since every few decades they lose all of the ‘profit’ they’ve made. Decades of lost ‘profit’ from Wall Street is now being paid by taxpayers.

What is really needed to be fair is a retroactive 100% wealth tax targeted at those who have made their money through banking/money management/etc over the last 30 years.

[quote=DoJC]
2. The richest 1% of all taxpayers earned above $388,806 paid 39.9% of all federal income receipts.

Tell me: how is it that the top 7% pay 62% of all federal income receipts and yet they’re both evil AND not paying their share?
[/quote]

You’re not too bright are you? To analyze this situation you would have to know what percent of total income these people took in. If the top 1% took in 39.9% of the income shouldn’t they account for 39.9% of the federal income reciepts? And if the top 7% took in 62% of the income, shouldn’t they pay 62% of the income tax?

Now, I don’t know what percent of national income these guys accounted for, but the way you framed the situation in your post is asinine.

[quote=DoJC]
Also – I’d like to know how anyone here would like it if their taxes were raised by 4% just because someone in the government felt they made enough money, and could easily afford another 4% in taxes? We’re screaming about our tax increases in CA, yet they’re tiny compared to what we’re talking about here.
[/quote]

That extra 4% is on income over $250K. Someone making $400K would at most pay an additional $6,000 (0.04 x $150K) in taxes. So the tax increase on someone making $400K is only 1.5% when calculated over their entire income. That’s hardly some great injustice.

[quote=DoJC]
This all reminds me of a story about the Nazis in WWII. IT goes like this: when they came for the Polish I did nothing because I wasn’t Polish. When they came for the lame I did nothing because I wasn’t lame. When they came for the Jews I did nothing because I wasn’t Jewish. When they came for me there was no one to defend me. No one here is in the effected tax brackets, and therefore think nothing about the government reaching into their pockets to shake them down for even more cash. Sadly, when these same people have their taxes raised by the same amount they will scream bloody murder.
[/quote]

This ridiculous analogy might be relevant if we took rich people and threw them into a gas chamber. Unfortunately, we don’t. Equating higher taxes to what the Nazis did makes you look like a total moron.

[quote=DoJC]
It’s a sad day for out country when everyone is crying about how evil and bad rich people are, and how they deserve to have their money taken away since they can afford it.
[/quote]

The banker class who grew rich by raping this country absolutely deserve to have their money taken away. They didn’t ‘earn’ that money, they just took ridiculous risks with other people’s money which is now being paid for by taxpayers.

[quote=DoJC]
I for one aspire to hit the highest tax bracket I can through various investments I plan to make. The idea of paying additional funds just because someone else thinks I can afford it is an affront![/quote]

If you aspire to get rich using your ‘intelligence’, and this post is any indication, I would venture to say that those higher taxes on rich folks will never affect you.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=DoJC]

1. People making $200,000+ per year represent a mere 7% of the population, yet they pay a whopping 62% of all federal income receipts.
[/quote]

I wonder how many of this group are bankers who only made their money by taking enormous risks over the last 30 years which is now being paid for by taxpayers?

When you think about it, Wall Street has essentially lost money over it’s entire existence since every few decades they lose all of the ‘profit’ they’ve made. Decades of lost ‘profit’ from Wall Street is now being paid by taxpayers.

What is really needed to be fair is a retroactive 100% wealth tax targeted at those who have made their money through banking/money management/etc over the last 30 years.

[quote=DoJC]
2. The richest 1% of all taxpayers earned above $388,806 paid 39.9% of all federal income receipts.

Tell me: how is it that the top 7% pay 62% of all federal income receipts and yet they’re both evil AND not paying their share?
[/quote]

You’re not too bright are you? To analyze this situation you would have to know what percent of total income these people took in. If the top 1% took in 39.9% of the income shouldn’t they account for 39.9% of the federal income reciepts? And if the top 7% took in 62% of the income, shouldn’t they pay 62% of the income tax?

Now, I don’t know what percent of national income these guys accounted for, but the way you framed the situation in your post is asinine.

[quote=DoJC]
Also – I’d like to know how anyone here would like it if their taxes were raised by 4% just because someone in the government felt they made enough money, and could easily afford another 4% in taxes? We’re screaming about our tax increases in CA, yet they’re tiny compared to what we’re talking about here.
[/quote]

That extra 4% is on income over $250K. Someone making $400K would at most pay an additional $6,000 (0.04 x $150K) in taxes. So the tax increase on someone making $400K is only 1.5% when calculated over their entire income. That’s hardly some great injustice.

[quote=DoJC]
This all reminds me of a story about the Nazis in WWII. IT goes like this: when they came for the Polish I did nothing because I wasn’t Polish. When they came for the lame I did nothing because I wasn’t lame. When they came for the Jews I did nothing because I wasn’t Jewish. When they came for me there was no one to defend me. No one here is in the effected tax brackets, and therefore think nothing about the government reaching into their pockets to shake them down for even more cash. Sadly, when these same people have their taxes raised by the same amount they will scream bloody murder.
[/quote]

This ridiculous analogy might be relevant if we took rich people and threw them into a gas chamber. Unfortunately, we don’t. Equating higher taxes to what the Nazis did makes you look like a total moron.

[quote=DoJC]
It’s a sad day for out country when everyone is crying about how evil and bad rich people are, and how they deserve to have their money taken away since they can afford it.
[/quote]

The banker class who grew rich by raping this country absolutely deserve to have their money taken away. They didn’t ‘earn’ that money, they just took ridiculous risks with other people’s money which is now being paid for by taxpayers.

[quote=DoJC]
I for one aspire to hit the highest tax bracket I can through various investments I plan to make. The idea of paying additional funds just because someone else thinks I can afford it is an affront![/quote]

If you aspire to get rich using your ‘intelligence’, and this post is any indication, I would venture to say that those higher taxes on rich folks will never affect you.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=DoJC]

1. People making $200,000+ per year represent a mere 7% of the population, yet they pay a whopping 62% of all federal income receipts.
[/quote]

I wonder how many of this group are bankers who only made their money by taking enormous risks over the last 30 years which is now being paid for by taxpayers?

When you think about it, Wall Street has essentially lost money over it’s entire existence since every few decades they lose all of the ‘profit’ they’ve made. Decades of lost ‘profit’ from Wall Street is now being paid by taxpayers.

What is really needed to be fair is a retroactive 100% wealth tax targeted at those who have made their money through banking/money management/etc over the last 30 years.

[quote=DoJC]
2. The richest 1% of all taxpayers earned above $388,806 paid 39.9% of all federal income receipts.

Tell me: how is it that the top 7% pay 62% of all federal income receipts and yet they’re both evil AND not paying their share?
[/quote]

You’re not too bright are you? To analyze this situation you would have to know what percent of total income these people took in. If the top 1% took in 39.9% of the income shouldn’t they account for 39.9% of the federal income reciepts? And if the top 7% took in 62% of the income, shouldn’t they pay 62% of the income tax?

Now, I don’t know what percent of national income these guys accounted for, but the way you framed the situation in your post is asinine.

[quote=DoJC]
Also – I’d like to know how anyone here would like it if their taxes were raised by 4% just because someone in the government felt they made enough money, and could easily afford another 4% in taxes? We’re screaming about our tax increases in CA, yet they’re tiny compared to what we’re talking about here.
[/quote]

That extra 4% is on income over $250K. Someone making $400K would at most pay an additional $6,000 (0.04 x $150K) in taxes. So the tax increase on someone making $400K is only 1.5% when calculated over their entire income. That’s hardly some great injustice.

[quote=DoJC]
This all reminds me of a story about the Nazis in WWII. IT goes like this: when they came for the Polish I did nothing because I wasn’t Polish. When they came for the lame I did nothing because I wasn’t lame. When they came for the Jews I did nothing because I wasn’t Jewish. When they came for me there was no one to defend me. No one here is in the effected tax brackets, and therefore think nothing about the government reaching into their pockets to shake them down for even more cash. Sadly, when these same people have their taxes raised by the same amount they will scream bloody murder.
[/quote]

This ridiculous analogy might be relevant if we took rich people and threw them into a gas chamber. Unfortunately, we don’t. Equating higher taxes to what the Nazis did makes you look like a total moron.

[quote=DoJC]
It’s a sad day for out country when everyone is crying about how evil and bad rich people are, and how they deserve to have their money taken away since they can afford it.
[/quote]

The banker class who grew rich by raping this country absolutely deserve to have their money taken away. They didn’t ‘earn’ that money, they just took ridiculous risks with other people’s money which is now being paid for by taxpayers.

[quote=DoJC]
I for one aspire to hit the highest tax bracket I can through various investments I plan to make. The idea of paying additional funds just because someone else thinks I can afford it is an affront![/quote]

If you aspire to get rich using your ‘intelligence’, and this post is any indication, I would venture to say that those higher taxes on rich folks will never affect you.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=DoJC]

1. People making $200,000+ per year represent a mere 7% of the population, yet they pay a whopping 62% of all federal income receipts.
[/quote]

I wonder how many of this group are bankers who only made their money by taking enormous risks over the last 30 years which is now being paid for by taxpayers?

When you think about it, Wall Street has essentially lost money over it’s entire existence since every few decades they lose all of the ‘profit’ they’ve made. Decades of lost ‘profit’ from Wall Street is now being paid by taxpayers.

What is really needed to be fair is a retroactive 100% wealth tax targeted at those who have made their money through banking/money management/etc over the last 30 years.

[quote=DoJC]
2. The richest 1% of all taxpayers earned above $388,806 paid 39.9% of all federal income receipts.

Tell me: how is it that the top 7% pay 62% of all federal income receipts and yet they’re both evil AND not paying their share?
[/quote]

You’re not too bright are you? To analyze this situation you would have to know what percent of total income these people took in. If the top 1% took in 39.9% of the income shouldn’t they account for 39.9% of the federal income reciepts? And if the top 7% took in 62% of the income, shouldn’t they pay 62% of the income tax?

Now, I don’t know what percent of national income these guys accounted for, but the way you framed the situation in your post is asinine.

[quote=DoJC]
Also – I’d like to know how anyone here would like it if their taxes were raised by 4% just because someone in the government felt they made enough money, and could easily afford another 4% in taxes? We’re screaming about our tax increases in CA, yet they’re tiny compared to what we’re talking about here.
[/quote]

That extra 4% is on income over $250K. Someone making $400K would at most pay an additional $6,000 (0.04 x $150K) in taxes. So the tax increase on someone making $400K is only 1.5% when calculated over their entire income. That’s hardly some great injustice.

[quote=DoJC]
This all reminds me of a story about the Nazis in WWII. IT goes like this: when they came for the Polish I did nothing because I wasn’t Polish. When they came for the lame I did nothing because I wasn’t lame. When they came for the Jews I did nothing because I wasn’t Jewish. When they came for me there was no one to defend me. No one here is in the effected tax brackets, and therefore think nothing about the government reaching into their pockets to shake them down for even more cash. Sadly, when these same people have their taxes raised by the same amount they will scream bloody murder.
[/quote]

This ridiculous analogy might be relevant if we took rich people and threw them into a gas chamber. Unfortunately, we don’t. Equating higher taxes to what the Nazis did makes you look like a total moron.

[quote=DoJC]
It’s a sad day for out country when everyone is crying about how evil and bad rich people are, and how they deserve to have their money taken away since they can afford it.
[/quote]

The banker class who grew rich by raping this country absolutely deserve to have their money taken away. They didn’t ‘earn’ that money, they just took ridiculous risks with other people’s money which is now being paid for by taxpayers.

[quote=DoJC]
I for one aspire to hit the highest tax bracket I can through various investments I plan to make. The idea of paying additional funds just because someone else thinks I can afford it is an affront![/quote]

If you aspire to get rich using your ‘intelligence’, and this post is any indication, I would venture to say that those higher taxes on rich folks will never affect you.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu][quote=UCGal]
Everyone I know was polled too.
If you have an address, you’ll get polled. You may choose to ignore it, but you will receive the census questionaire in 2010.[/quote]

At a $1billion price tag for us taxpayers, I better :)[/quote]
Continuing the hijack…

Well considering it’s actually required under the constitution to determine congressional seats, we all better. 😉
[/quote]

Another idiot Republican gets pwnd.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu][quote=UCGal]
Everyone I know was polled too.
If you have an address, you’ll get polled. You may choose to ignore it, but you will receive the census questionaire in 2010.[/quote]

At a $1billion price tag for us taxpayers, I better :)[/quote]
Continuing the hijack…

Well considering it’s actually required under the constitution to determine congressional seats, we all better. 😉
[/quote]

Another idiot Republican gets pwnd.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu][quote=UCGal]
Everyone I know was polled too.
If you have an address, you’ll get polled. You may choose to ignore it, but you will receive the census questionaire in 2010.[/quote]

At a $1billion price tag for us taxpayers, I better :)[/quote]
Continuing the hijack…

Well considering it’s actually required under the constitution to determine congressional seats, we all better. 😉
[/quote]

Another idiot Republican gets pwnd.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu][quote=UCGal]
Everyone I know was polled too.
If you have an address, you’ll get polled. You may choose to ignore it, but you will receive the census questionaire in 2010.[/quote]

At a $1billion price tag for us taxpayers, I better :)[/quote]
Continuing the hijack…

Well considering it’s actually required under the constitution to determine congressional seats, we all better. 😉
[/quote]

Another idiot Republican gets pwnd.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu][quote=UCGal]
Everyone I know was polled too.
If you have an address, you’ll get polled. You may choose to ignore it, but you will receive the census questionaire in 2010.[/quote]

At a $1billion price tag for us taxpayers, I better :)[/quote]
Continuing the hijack…

Well considering it’s actually required under the constitution to determine congressional seats, we all better. 😉
[/quote]

Another idiot Republican gets pwnd.

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