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ParticipantFacts, facts, and facts
DW: It’s a long study (156 pages). Google “homeownership and child health rates” and it’s one of the results. Here is the information you asked for. If you want the money statement that pretty much refutes what your original statement said, it’s in bold…
There have been a number of high quality studies that have investigated the impacts of homeownership on the educational attainment of children. The studies differ in the types of educational outcomes examined, the data sets used, and the methodological approaches employed. Yet, these studies universally conclude that the children of homeowners have better educational outcomes than the children of renters even after controlling for a wide variety of other household characteristics and employing statistical methods to account for selection bias in who becomes an owner.
Finally, Aaronson adds further controls to account for differences in household wealth, including the amount of housing equity. Including housing wealth in the estimated model is found to further reduce the estimated impact of homeownership on high school graduation by about half, with greater levels of housing equity associated with a greater likelihood of graduation. While Aaronson hypothesizes
that this result reflects the association between wealth and other household characteristics that affect well being, he also notes that non-housing wealth does not have the same positive association with graduation rates. This result is consistent with the argument made by others that housing wealth is indicative of larger and higher quality homes, which may support better educational outcomes.Nonetheless, while Aaronson finds that including controls for residential mobility and wealth reduces
the impact of homeownership, it is still the case that an independent and statistically significant
association between homeownership and high school graduation remains.I admit that the PBS program mentioned the homeownership and social success correlation only in passing, but it was still part of the overall conversation about the subject of class and talked directly. That’s why I also included the study.
Anyways, to summarize, the study says that in higher incomes, the gap is smaller between the homeowners and the renters, but that there is still a correlation between homeownership and child benefits.
So I have facts to back up my statement. Do you have any studies or facts that show that owning a house doesn’t mean your kid will be better off?
And let’s get something straight – you guys can rent as long as you like and buy houses when it costs terrific, and I don’t begrudge you guys that. Still, the facts are that there has been a historical benefit to owning property, and this benefit has existed ever since property rights were developed. This is a phenomenon that has not just come recently or was created as a tagline for realtors. It is a real benefit and has been in action for a hundred years and more.
There are always exceptions, but that doesn’t make this benefit false.
Does this mean you should buy overpriced property? NO.
I’m just saying that children benefit from homeownership and that it is documented.
ParticipantFacts, facts, and facts
DW: It’s a long study (156 pages). Google “homeownership and child health rates” and it’s one of the results. Here is the information you asked for. If you want the money statement that pretty much refutes what your original statement said, it’s in bold…
There have been a number of high quality studies that have investigated the impacts of homeownership on the educational attainment of children. The studies differ in the types of educational outcomes examined, the data sets used, and the methodological approaches employed. Yet, these studies universally conclude that the children of homeowners have better educational outcomes than the children of renters even after controlling for a wide variety of other household characteristics and employing statistical methods to account for selection bias in who becomes an owner.
Finally, Aaronson adds further controls to account for differences in household wealth, including the amount of housing equity. Including housing wealth in the estimated model is found to further reduce the estimated impact of homeownership on high school graduation by about half, with greater levels of housing equity associated with a greater likelihood of graduation. While Aaronson hypothesizes
that this result reflects the association between wealth and other household characteristics that affect well being, he also notes that non-housing wealth does not have the same positive association with graduation rates. This result is consistent with the argument made by others that housing wealth is indicative of larger and higher quality homes, which may support better educational outcomes.Nonetheless, while Aaronson finds that including controls for residential mobility and wealth reduces
the impact of homeownership, it is still the case that an independent and statistically significant
association between homeownership and high school graduation remains.I admit that the PBS program mentioned the homeownership and social success correlation only in passing, but it was still part of the overall conversation about the subject of class and talked directly. That’s why I also included the study.
Anyways, to summarize, the study says that in higher incomes, the gap is smaller between the homeowners and the renters, but that there is still a correlation between homeownership and child benefits.
So I have facts to back up my statement. Do you have any studies or facts that show that owning a house doesn’t mean your kid will be better off?
And let’s get something straight – you guys can rent as long as you like and buy houses when it costs terrific, and I don’t begrudge you guys that. Still, the facts are that there has been a historical benefit to owning property, and this benefit has existed ever since property rights were developed. This is a phenomenon that has not just come recently or was created as a tagline for realtors. It is a real benefit and has been in action for a hundred years and more.
There are always exceptions, but that doesn’t make this benefit false.
Does this mean you should buy overpriced property? NO.
I’m just saying that children benefit from homeownership and that it is documented.
ParticipantFacts, facts, and facts
DW: It’s a long study (156 pages). Google “homeownership and child health rates” and it’s one of the results. Here is the information you asked for. If you want the money statement that pretty much refutes what your original statement said, it’s in bold…
There have been a number of high quality studies that have investigated the impacts of homeownership on the educational attainment of children. The studies differ in the types of educational outcomes examined, the data sets used, and the methodological approaches employed. Yet, these studies universally conclude that the children of homeowners have better educational outcomes than the children of renters even after controlling for a wide variety of other household characteristics and employing statistical methods to account for selection bias in who becomes an owner.
Finally, Aaronson adds further controls to account for differences in household wealth, including the amount of housing equity. Including housing wealth in the estimated model is found to further reduce the estimated impact of homeownership on high school graduation by about half, with greater levels of housing equity associated with a greater likelihood of graduation. While Aaronson hypothesizes
that this result reflects the association between wealth and other household characteristics that affect well being, he also notes that non-housing wealth does not have the same positive association with graduation rates. This result is consistent with the argument made by others that housing wealth is indicative of larger and higher quality homes, which may support better educational outcomes.Nonetheless, while Aaronson finds that including controls for residential mobility and wealth reduces
the impact of homeownership, it is still the case that an independent and statistically significant
association between homeownership and high school graduation remains.I admit that the PBS program mentioned the homeownership and social success correlation only in passing, but it was still part of the overall conversation about the subject of class and talked directly. That’s why I also included the study.
Anyways, to summarize, the study says that in higher incomes, the gap is smaller between the homeowners and the renters, but that there is still a correlation between homeownership and child benefits.
So I have facts to back up my statement. Do you have any studies or facts that show that owning a house doesn’t mean your kid will be better off?
And let’s get something straight – you guys can rent as long as you like and buy houses when it costs terrific, and I don’t begrudge you guys that. Still, the facts are that there has been a historical benefit to owning property, and this benefit has existed ever since property rights were developed. This is a phenomenon that has not just come recently or was created as a tagline for realtors. It is a real benefit and has been in action for a hundred years and more.
There are always exceptions, but that doesn’t make this benefit false.
Does this mean you should buy overpriced property? NO.
I’m just saying that children benefit from homeownership and that it is documented.
ParticipantFacts, facts, and facts
DW: It’s a long study (156 pages). Google “homeownership and child health rates” and it’s one of the results. Here is the information you asked for. If you want the money statement that pretty much refutes what your original statement said, it’s in bold…
There have been a number of high quality studies that have investigated the impacts of homeownership on the educational attainment of children. The studies differ in the types of educational outcomes examined, the data sets used, and the methodological approaches employed. Yet, these studies universally conclude that the children of homeowners have better educational outcomes than the children of renters even after controlling for a wide variety of other household characteristics and employing statistical methods to account for selection bias in who becomes an owner.
Finally, Aaronson adds further controls to account for differences in household wealth, including the amount of housing equity. Including housing wealth in the estimated model is found to further reduce the estimated impact of homeownership on high school graduation by about half, with greater levels of housing equity associated with a greater likelihood of graduation. While Aaronson hypothesizes
that this result reflects the association between wealth and other household characteristics that affect well being, he also notes that non-housing wealth does not have the same positive association with graduation rates. This result is consistent with the argument made by others that housing wealth is indicative of larger and higher quality homes, which may support better educational outcomes.Nonetheless, while Aaronson finds that including controls for residential mobility and wealth reduces
the impact of homeownership, it is still the case that an independent and statistically significant
association between homeownership and high school graduation remains.I admit that the PBS program mentioned the homeownership and social success correlation only in passing, but it was still part of the overall conversation about the subject of class and talked directly. That’s why I also included the study.
Anyways, to summarize, the study says that in higher incomes, the gap is smaller between the homeowners and the renters, but that there is still a correlation between homeownership and child benefits.
So I have facts to back up my statement. Do you have any studies or facts that show that owning a house doesn’t mean your kid will be better off?
And let’s get something straight – you guys can rent as long as you like and buy houses when it costs terrific, and I don’t begrudge you guys that. Still, the facts are that there has been a historical benefit to owning property, and this benefit has existed ever since property rights were developed. This is a phenomenon that has not just come recently or was created as a tagline for realtors. It is a real benefit and has been in action for a hundred years and more.
There are always exceptions, but that doesn’t make this benefit false.
Does this mean you should buy overpriced property? NO.
I’m just saying that children benefit from homeownership and that it is documented.
Participant~~~~~~~~~~~~
Like smoking and lung cancer, right?
Sure.
cor·re·la·tion Audio Help (kôr’ə-lā’shən, kŏr’-) Pronunciation Key
n.
A causal, complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relationship, especially a structural, functional, or qualitative correspondence between two comparable entities: a correlation between drug abuse and crime.
Statistics The simultaneous change in value of two numerically valued random variables: the positive correlation between cigarette smoking and the incidence of lung cancer; the negative correlation between age and normal vision.
An act of correlating or the condition of being correlated.Participant~~~~~~~~~~~~
Like smoking and lung cancer, right?
Sure.
cor·re·la·tion Audio Help (kôr’ə-lā’shən, kŏr’-) Pronunciation Key
n.
A causal, complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relationship, especially a structural, functional, or qualitative correspondence between two comparable entities: a correlation between drug abuse and crime.
Statistics The simultaneous change in value of two numerically valued random variables: the positive correlation between cigarette smoking and the incidence of lung cancer; the negative correlation between age and normal vision.
An act of correlating or the condition of being correlated.Participant~~~~~~~~~~~~
Like smoking and lung cancer, right?
Sure.
cor·re·la·tion Audio Help (kôr’ə-lā’shən, kŏr’-) Pronunciation Key
n.
A causal, complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relationship, especially a structural, functional, or qualitative correspondence between two comparable entities: a correlation between drug abuse and crime.
Statistics The simultaneous change in value of two numerically valued random variables: the positive correlation between cigarette smoking and the incidence of lung cancer; the negative correlation between age and normal vision.
An act of correlating or the condition of being correlated.Participant~~~~~~~~~~~~
Like smoking and lung cancer, right?
Sure.
cor·re·la·tion Audio Help (kôr’ə-lā’shən, kŏr’-) Pronunciation Key
n.
A causal, complementary, parallel, or reciprocal relationship, especially a structural, functional, or qualitative correspondence between two comparable entities: a correlation between drug abuse and crime.
Statistics The simultaneous change in value of two numerically valued random variables: the positive correlation between cigarette smoking and the incidence of lung cancer; the negative correlation between age and normal vision.
An act of correlating or the condition of being correlated.ParticipantPBS
No baby I have ever heard of had any better test scores, growth rates, or happyness because their parents were owners instead of renters.
Maybe not your experience, but many statistics would say that children of homeowners do fare better than children of renters.
Last week I was watching a PBS program on the U.S. “class” system and how different people of various steps on the economic ladder would have lifespans based on how well off they were or how badly off they were.
One of the things that perked my ears up was that the show stated that there was a direct correlation between healthier people/longer lifespans/successes and those who had bought their own home.
The PBS show is here:
The study is also here:
I’m not justifying overpaying for a house, but there are reasons why homeownership has had a benefit historically.
ParticipantPBS
No baby I have ever heard of had any better test scores, growth rates, or happyness because their parents were owners instead of renters.
Maybe not your experience, but many statistics would say that children of homeowners do fare better than children of renters.
Last week I was watching a PBS program on the U.S. “class” system and how different people of various steps on the economic ladder would have lifespans based on how well off they were or how badly off they were.
One of the things that perked my ears up was that the show stated that there was a direct correlation between healthier people/longer lifespans/successes and those who had bought their own home.
The PBS show is here:
The study is also here:
I’m not justifying overpaying for a house, but there are reasons why homeownership has had a benefit historically.
ParticipantPBS
No baby I have ever heard of had any better test scores, growth rates, or happyness because their parents were owners instead of renters.
Maybe not your experience, but many statistics would say that children of homeowners do fare better than children of renters.
Last week I was watching a PBS program on the U.S. “class” system and how different people of various steps on the economic ladder would have lifespans based on how well off they were or how badly off they were.
One of the things that perked my ears up was that the show stated that there was a direct correlation between healthier people/longer lifespans/successes and those who had bought their own home.
The PBS show is here:
The study is also here:
I’m not justifying overpaying for a house, but there are reasons why homeownership has had a benefit historically.
ParticipantPBS
No baby I have ever heard of had any better test scores, growth rates, or happyness because their parents were owners instead of renters.
Maybe not your experience, but many statistics would say that children of homeowners do fare better than children of renters.
Last week I was watching a PBS program on the U.S. “class” system and how different people of various steps on the economic ladder would have lifespans based on how well off they were or how badly off they were.
One of the things that perked my ears up was that the show stated that there was a direct correlation between healthier people/longer lifespans/successes and those who had bought their own home.
The PBS show is here:
The study is also here:
I’m not justifying overpaying for a house, but there are reasons why homeownership has had a benefit historically.
Participantnotes
I thought this was an interesting statement:
Most people who lose their homes to foreclosure become renters again. That’s happening so swiftly in Denver and other parts of Colorado that vacancy rates for apartments have dropped from more than 10% a few years ago to about 5% today, says Williams, the Colorado housing official. The nation’s apartment vacancy rate dropped from 6.9% in 2003 to 5.6% in 2007, according to research by Marcus & Millichap Real Estate Investment Services.
“We’re seeing a lot more stress on the rental market,” Williams says. “If more supply doesn’t come in, we’re going to see rents rise.”
That’s happening already: The average rent that landlords sought for an apartment in Denver in 2007 rose 3.9% over the previous year, according to Marcus & Millichap.
I’ve been seeing this symptom (the rising scarcity of rental units due to foreclosed homeowners becoming renters) manifest itself here modestly in San Diego.
Participantnotes
I thought this was an interesting statement:
Most people who lose their homes to foreclosure become renters again. That’s happening so swiftly in Denver and other parts of Colorado that vacancy rates for apartments have dropped from more than 10% a few years ago to about 5% today, says Williams, the Colorado housing official. The nation’s apartment vacancy rate dropped from 6.9% in 2003 to 5.6% in 2007, according to research by Marcus & Millichap Real Estate Investment Services.
“We’re seeing a lot more stress on the rental market,” Williams says. “If more supply doesn’t come in, we’re going to see rents rise.”
That’s happening already: The average rent that landlords sought for an apartment in Denver in 2007 rose 3.9% over the previous year, according to Marcus & Millichap.
I’ve been seeing this symptom (the rising scarcity of rental units due to foreclosed homeowners becoming renters) manifest itself here modestly in San Diego.
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