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[quote=sdrealtor]While raging good times are not on the horizon, fear of systemic collapse has passed. A continued sense of fear is paralyzing for many, I hope they can get past it.[/quote]

My fear of systemic collapse has not passed. I still believe we are headed toward a debt crisis which will result in either outright default or hyperinflation. It could take months or years but we won’t get through another decade unscathed.

I also see perpetual unemployment problems as we continue to lose our manufacturing sector.

If you want to see our future, look to Europe. Then factor out any chance the IMF will bail us out.

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[quote=no_such_reality]Are you reducing your electricity consumption by 40%? That’s one of the assumptions of AB32, that the goals can be met by consumers reducing their demand through purchasing higher efficiency items.[/quote]

I have already cut my consumption by over 40%. I no longer have any low hanging fruit on my electricity tree. There are no more lights to be replaced. No more old and inefficient appliances. I would need bigger change like filling in my pool (which already has a high efficiency pump and controller). If another 40% is needed it won’t come from me.

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[quote=no_such_reality]Are you reducing your electricity consumption by 40%? That’s one of the assumptions of AB32, that the goals can be met by consumers reducing their demand through purchasing higher efficiency items.[/quote]

I have already cut my consumption by over 40%. I no longer have any low hanging fruit on my electricity tree. There are no more lights to be replaced. No more old and inefficient appliances. I would need bigger change like filling in my pool (which already has a high efficiency pump and controller). If another 40% is needed it won’t come from me.

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[quote=no_such_reality]Are you reducing your electricity consumption by 40%? That’s one of the assumptions of AB32, that the goals can be met by consumers reducing their demand through purchasing higher efficiency items.[/quote]

I have already cut my consumption by over 40%. I no longer have any low hanging fruit on my electricity tree. There are no more lights to be replaced. No more old and inefficient appliances. I would need bigger change like filling in my pool (which already has a high efficiency pump and controller). If another 40% is needed it won’t come from me.

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[quote=no_such_reality]Are you reducing your electricity consumption by 40%? That’s one of the assumptions of AB32, that the goals can be met by consumers reducing their demand through purchasing higher efficiency items.[/quote]

I have already cut my consumption by over 40%. I no longer have any low hanging fruit on my electricity tree. There are no more lights to be replaced. No more old and inefficient appliances. I would need bigger change like filling in my pool (which already has a high efficiency pump and controller). If another 40% is needed it won’t come from me.

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[quote=no_such_reality]Are you reducing your electricity consumption by 40%? That’s one of the assumptions of AB32, that the goals can be met by consumers reducing their demand through purchasing higher efficiency items.[/quote]

I have already cut my consumption by over 40%. I no longer have any low hanging fruit on my electricity tree. There are no more lights to be replaced. No more old and inefficient appliances. I would need bigger change like filling in my pool (which already has a high efficiency pump and controller). If another 40% is needed it won’t come from me.

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[quote=BigGovernmentIsGood][quote=sreeb]
I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.[/quote]

Why? Who’s interests are being served?[/quote]

The “Employment Development Department-Labor Market Information Division” is a state agency that is supervised by the Governor (who supported AB32 and opposes Prop 23) and funded by the legislature (which created AB32). All of them are trying to pat each other on the back about how green they are.

You don’t think it is possible that they are grossly exaggerating for political reasons and possibly to snag some federal money?

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[quote=BigGovernmentIsGood][quote=sreeb]
I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.[/quote]

Why? Who’s interests are being served?[/quote]

The “Employment Development Department-Labor Market Information Division” is a state agency that is supervised by the Governor (who supported AB32 and opposes Prop 23) and funded by the legislature (which created AB32). All of them are trying to pat each other on the back about how green they are.

You don’t think it is possible that they are grossly exaggerating for political reasons and possibly to snag some federal money?

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[quote=BigGovernmentIsGood][quote=sreeb]
I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.[/quote]

Why? Who’s interests are being served?[/quote]

The “Employment Development Department-Labor Market Information Division” is a state agency that is supervised by the Governor (who supported AB32 and opposes Prop 23) and funded by the legislature (which created AB32). All of them are trying to pat each other on the back about how green they are.

You don’t think it is possible that they are grossly exaggerating for political reasons and possibly to snag some federal money?

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[quote=BigGovernmentIsGood][quote=sreeb]
I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.[/quote]

Why? Who’s interests are being served?[/quote]

The “Employment Development Department-Labor Market Information Division” is a state agency that is supervised by the Governor (who supported AB32 and opposes Prop 23) and funded by the legislature (which created AB32). All of them are trying to pat each other on the back about how green they are.

You don’t think it is possible that they are grossly exaggerating for political reasons and possibly to snag some federal money?

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[quote=BigGovernmentIsGood][quote=sreeb]
I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.[/quote]

Why? Who’s interests are being served?[/quote]

The “Employment Development Department-Labor Market Information Division” is a state agency that is supervised by the Governor (who supported AB32 and opposes Prop 23) and funded by the legislature (which created AB32). All of them are trying to pat each other on the back about how green they are.

You don’t think it is possible that they are grossly exaggerating for political reasons and possibly to snag some federal money?

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The population isn’t 50M yet and most of the population doesn’t have a job.

There are about 14M private non farm jobs in CA which makes it closer to 4%. I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.

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The population isn’t 50M yet and most of the population doesn’t have a job.

There are about 14M private non farm jobs in CA which makes it closer to 4%. I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.

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The population isn’t 50M yet and most of the population doesn’t have a job.

There are about 14M private non farm jobs in CA which makes it closer to 4%. I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.

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The population isn’t 50M yet and most of the population doesn’t have a job.

There are about 14M private non farm jobs in CA which makes it closer to 4%. I continue to believe the 500K number is self serving crap.

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