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ParticipantHopefully there will be another Firestone fiasco. A war in the Middle East after the US frack industry is run out of town would also be nice.
And how long do you think Found on Road Dead will keep making aluminum trucks if economy becomes less of an issue, especially if a GOP Congress modifies fuel economy standards?
Remember that auto makers like trucks because they’re CHEAP to design compared to efficient cars, so they’ll attempt every shortcut in the book.
ParticipantThe only good SUV is one that’s had its crankcase drained of oil and is being revved to 6000 rpm.
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-chatter-chatter-chatter-sqeeeeeeeeeee-BANG!
Watching the videos of SUVs being “disabled” for Cash for Clunkers was beautifully cathartic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3wJWZW5_c (yes, I realize that it would have been environmentally sounder to keep those cars running since making a car costs energy. But still cathartic.)
Yeah, yeah. I know. Personal choice. Problem is that when manufacturers sell more Stupid Useless Vehicles, they tend to drop normal car and station wagon models, thus reducing MY choice of cars that don’t blow smelly goat testicles.
And there’s no FUCKING way in HELL that I’d ever want a G-d damned SUV. If I wanted to drive a truck, I’d get a job at UPS. I’ve never driven an SUV that didn’t have me wanting to rearrange the faces of the flaming assholes who misengineered it after five minutes of driving.
And people like Drevna are blithering, mouth-breathing idiots. The choice isn’t between an SUV and Smart Car. The choice is between an SUV and something like a Passat diesel wagon or Prius wagon. Both of which are actually bigger inside than many Stupid Useless Vehicles.
ParticipantRepublicans are just as much about big government as Dems, despite their arguing. The programs that they propose are just less useful to the average person.
ParticipantFlyerInHI – more goods and service don’t necessarily equate to a higher standard of living. There come a point of diminishing returns. A person can only use one iPad at a time 🙂
If anything, the pressure to upgrade turns into a wealth transfer mechanism from the middle-class to the wealthy, and to Chinese biorobots building crap abroad.
ParticipantThat was a few years ago. Why would it affect my decision to stay in the US?
ParticipantI was actually rear-ended by an Envoy in a Miata. Still alive, though I did make the dumb bint who was driving it cry before the cops got there. No apology from her, just a mewling “I didn’t see you, I was on my phone.”
“What if it would have been a bicyclist, you dumbshite? You’d be heading to jail for manslaughter right now. Know what happens to rich kids like you in county jail? … … …” So easy, hope she learned a lesson.
And her daddy dearest’s insurance paid for book value plus other things within a week.
ParticipantGermany, Czech Republic (anywhere in EU works well for me legally). If not that, then I’d try somewhere in South America or New Zealand.
ParticipantThere’s a difference between insane schizophrenic paranoia and caution.
ParticipantI hope to be out of this excuse for a country for good by the time I have kids. Far healthier for children to grow up in a country that doesn’t have irrational fears rammed down its collective gullet by for-profit media scum that seize on every abnormal situation as if it were the norm.
Much prefer places where kids walking to school at 8, and traveling on their own at age 16 are the norm, rather than being considered child abuse. And where parents don’t feel pressured to stop living just because they pop a sprog or two.
And where my family’s health care will be covered by the collective, rather than putting us in danger of bankruptcy if it’s needed. Basically, with a good welfare state, one doesn’t have to worry as much about their kids starving if the worst happens, so they don’t need to wrap themselves in bubble-wrap as much.
Participantflu: relability might be an issue. I certainly wasn’t impressed with the quality of the interiors of the two Fiat 500s I had as rentals. One had a broken armrest at 6000 miles. The other had a broken gas cap at 10,000 miles.
But an electric drivetrain should be simple enough to be reliable.
As far as crash safety, they’re nimble little cars. I’d rather avoid a crash than survive one. And besides, I ride motorcycles, so I’m not a fearful little kathoey.
ParticipantGruber is bang-on right. Wish there were an easy way to nudge American voters into accepting an fossil fuel tax/cleantech subsidy structure.
Ironic thing is that electric cars are actually cheap to run and maintain. Battery replacement costs are offset by a simpler, easier to maintain drivetrain as well as lower “fuel” costs.
In the long run, Joe Overleveraged would actually be better served by having at least one of his vehicles be electric.
Or even a 60 mpg diesel econobox for that matter.
ParticipantIf the fools freeze in the dark for a few months, they’ll even accept a RITEG in their bedroom. Point is to make them freeze their butts so their anti-science attitudes get trumped by more practical considerations.
Funny that the French are about 75% nuke energy and have managed to run their reactors safely for decades. Ironic that Americans call them timid, but they’re less fearful than our uneducated sheep in this respect.
The ideal situation is to give the average American bleating sheep two choices:
(1) Freeze in the dark. Ideally freeze to death.
(2) Accept forms of energy production that befit people living in the 21st century. Nuclear, hydro, renewable, etc.ParticipantSure. And let’s use it to fund the construction of new nuclear power plants. Places like Camden County, Syracuse, Scranton, etc would kill to have more jobs.
Ramp up energy production from other means, and natural gas ceases to be a thing of value.
ParticipantAN: Suits me — I rather like the Northeast and having property prices depress would be a good thing. More for me to buy.
Taking a haircut on rent due to increased utilities (lower spending power) is still fine if initial buy-in price is lower. Here’s to it!
flu: I’m not, but the supporters of G-d, Allah, etc can always be counted on to throw a few monkey-wrenches around.
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