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ParticipantWould Otay Mesa and San Ysidro, which aren’t actually contiguous(*) with San Diego and are south of the city of Chula Vista, but are nonetheless part of San Diego, make people’s heads explode?
(*)- they’re connected by a narrow strip of water inside of San Diego harbor.
ParticipantFlyerInHI: This isn’t much worse than transportation from NJ suburbs of NYC to Newark Airport. If you live on the train line that serves the Airport station, you can just get off there and take the monorail. Easy.
But if you’re taking a different line, you need to get off at another station in Newark, take the subway to Penn Station, then take a bus to the airport. Makes San Diego look like child’s play.
In the US, only DC (with National Airport), Philly, and Chicago get it right by running frequent direct trains to their airports.
AN: the north coast cities are both cities and suburbs. Call them “streetcar” or railroad suburbs, but the traffic flow in the morning is still primarily to the south and San Diego. It’s an older model of suburbanization, but still suburban.
Encinitas is population 60,000 give or take. Suburbs/cities outside of NYC like New Rochelle can be similar in size (say 80,000).
ParticipantFlyerInHI: There seemed to be plenty of jobs within one or two miles of the coast in the northern burbs. A lot of retail, Palomar Airport, the marine base, quite a few office complexes, etc. When my friend moved from the East Coast to San Diego, she didn’t have a license or car for about a year and did fine in Encinitas. She had a bicycle and an over abundance of energy.
The-Shoveler: Can’t speak to LAX, but San Diego Airport is relatively accessible by public transport. There’s a bus from Santa Fe Terminal that takes 10-15 min.
ParticipantThere are public incentives to subsidize public transport for private employees as well.
ParticipantMost of the northern suburbs of San Diego have town centers along the coast. If you lived and worked in Carlsbad, Oceanside, or Encinitas, or lived there and worked in downtown SD near Santa Fe Terminal, you could likely do without a car, as much as you could in many East Coast or Chicago burbs.
ParticipantI have both in my neighborhood. As well as an electric power plant 🙂 But there should be limits. I think people would object if someone decided to open a nitroglycerine factory next door.
ParticipantFlyerInHI – some zoning is needed. Unless you want your neighbors to be able to set up a lead battery recycling facility next door to you. Or an oil refinery — like the one that exploded in Torrance — down the street 🙂
As far as the soccer mommies, the ideal situation would be for the kids to be able to walk to school and activities, not have to be shuttled around in a mooomyvan.
ParticipantSan Jose downtown is exactly what I’m talking about. Its a downtown. You can use San Diego as an example too. But Carmel valley is a suburb, not a city. It doesn’t have an area zoned for high density mixed used to start with.
I’m not sure if that definition holds. A lot of East Coast and Midwestern suburbs do have downtowns with mixed use, and have had for 100 years!
ParticipantPbbbbbbt – the weather is part of the charm. Where else can you go canoeing on the East River Drive, snowshoeing in Central Park, running from people made angry by the heat, and skating on falling leaves all in the space of a year?
What does San Diego get that’s fun? Bushfires. Not even earthquakes like in LA or San Francisco. Baw-ring.
ParticipantI’m not that picky — as long as it works, I’m OK with it. I’m not actually convinced that the food cooked in a 1950s kitchen tastes any worse than food cooked in a 2015-era HGTV kitchen.
Nor that once you replace the basic fixtures, paint, and tile, a 1970s bathroom works any less well than a spankin’ new one.
ParticipantFlyerInHI, you’re being way too fancypants here 🙂 No need to tear out the existing cabinets. Clean them up and repaint them. Takes about a day. Stove and dishwasher can be had for $400 for both on Craigslist, and a lot of HGTV watchers throw out perfectly good 5 year old appliances because zOMG they need to renovate. Say a grand for the countertops, and you’re up to $2000 if you re-tile the kitchen floor and change the range hood.
The house I grew up in still has its original 1950s kitchen, albeit with a slightly newer (1970s?) stove and new dishwasher. Nothing wrong with it: still works as well as any other kitchen I’ve used.
Bathroom: paint, floor tile, new cutoff valves, new toilet, new sink, new medicine cabinet, new vent blower can be done for about $2000 as well. You end up with a clean space to live. Nothing fancy, but not squalid either.
Spend the other $1000 on things like A/C units, new carpet if needed, etc.
$5,000 for an Ikea kitchen, including appliances if you do the demo and install yourself. For the price you might be able to get granite counter tops (usually about $1000 for an apartment size kitchen).
If you change electrical, plumbing, get permits, etc… the price goes up.
To remodel a 2/2 condo you’re looking at closer to $15k – $20k, for kitchen and baths, depending on how much you DIY. Plus add flooring at a minimum of $5/sf for material and install.
Participant[quote=AN]The problem with public transport first is that it’s a huge waste of money. You end up with buses and rail without any riders.[/quote]
That’s how it used to be done, though. Streetcar companies would build lines into lightly developed areas and make deals with developers to build them out. I’m talking about the late 1800s and early 1900s.
ParticipantThat’s not due to Lollipop itself, but some “customization” shitware that the manufacturer chose to ram down your throat.
ParticipantThe kitchen/bathroom issues that you’re talking about are under $5 grand to fix.
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