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[quote=ctr70]I think if you just take late Nov until April, Florida has better weather in those months than SD. SD has moderate winters with a decent amount of rain, it is not a warm weather climate in winters. South Florida has tropical winters where you can go to the beach and swim in the water and not freeze.

Also, San Diego has extremely cold ocean water. I live here and I never go in the water b/c it’s fridgid…yes even in summer. Unless you are a wet suit surfer, Floridas beaches are much more usable for swimming and snorkeling for the average beach goer. It’s very frustrating living in a place like SD where you can look at the ocean, but you can’t really touch it, lounge around in it and feel it on your skin (unless you are part polar bear). The sand quality is also much better in FL. When I lived in HI I swam a few times a week, in 5 years I’ve been in the ocean only twice in SD.

I do like the hills and hiking of SD though…far superior in that catagory.

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Is the Fla. ocean water refreshing in the summer, though?

Your comments about “frigid” ocean temps here make sense given that you have lived in Hawaii. Growing up here, once water hit 67, I trunked it and thought little of it. 70 is plenty warm for me, even at 33 years old.

I love the winter weather here; just wish there was some more rain/mtn snow. :-). Perfect for hiking. Besides, we can get warm spells pretty much year round. I recall hiking at Santa Rosa Plateau several years ago in January and it reached 90 in afternoon.

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[quote=ctr70]I think if you just take late Nov until April, Florida has better weather in those months than SD. SD has moderate winters with a decent amount of rain, it is not a warm weather climate in winters. South Florida has tropical winters where you can go to the beach and swim in the water and not freeze.

Also, San Diego has extremely cold ocean water. I live here and I never go in the water b/c it’s fridgid…yes even in summer. Unless you are a wet suit surfer, Floridas beaches are much more usable for swimming and snorkeling for the average beach goer. It’s very frustrating living in a place like SD where you can look at the ocean, but you can’t really touch it, lounge around in it and feel it on your skin (unless you are part polar bear). The sand quality is also much better in FL. When I lived in HI I swam a few times a week, in 5 years I’ve been in the ocean only twice in SD.

I do like the hills and hiking of SD though…far superior in that catagory.

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Is the Fla. ocean water refreshing in the summer, though?

Your comments about “frigid” ocean temps here make sense given that you have lived in Hawaii. Growing up here, once water hit 67, I trunked it and thought little of it. 70 is plenty warm for me, even at 33 years old.

I love the winter weather here; just wish there was some more rain/mtn snow. :-). Perfect for hiking. Besides, we can get warm spells pretty much year round. I recall hiking at Santa Rosa Plateau several years ago in January and it reached 90 in afternoon.

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[quote=ctr70]I think if you just take late Nov until April, Florida has better weather in those months than SD. SD has moderate winters with a decent amount of rain, it is not a warm weather climate in winters. South Florida has tropical winters where you can go to the beach and swim in the water and not freeze.

Also, San Diego has extremely cold ocean water. I live here and I never go in the water b/c it’s fridgid…yes even in summer. Unless you are a wet suit surfer, Floridas beaches are much more usable for swimming and snorkeling for the average beach goer. It’s very frustrating living in a place like SD where you can look at the ocean, but you can’t really touch it, lounge around in it and feel it on your skin (unless you are part polar bear). The sand quality is also much better in FL. When I lived in HI I swam a few times a week, in 5 years I’ve been in the ocean only twice in SD.

I do like the hills and hiking of SD though…far superior in that catagory.

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Is the Fla. ocean water refreshing in the summer, though?

Your comments about “frigid” ocean temps here make sense given that you have lived in Hawaii. Growing up here, once water hit 67, I trunked it and thought little of it. 70 is plenty warm for me, even at 33 years old.

I love the winter weather here; just wish there was some more rain/mtn snow. :-). Perfect for hiking. Besides, we can get warm spells pretty much year round. I recall hiking at Santa Rosa Plateau several years ago in January and it reached 90 in afternoon.

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[quote=ctr70]I think if you just take late Nov until April, Florida has better weather in those months than SD. SD has moderate winters with a decent amount of rain, it is not a warm weather climate in winters. South Florida has tropical winters where you can go to the beach and swim in the water and not freeze.

Also, San Diego has extremely cold ocean water. I live here and I never go in the water b/c it’s fridgid…yes even in summer. Unless you are a wet suit surfer, Floridas beaches are much more usable for swimming and snorkeling for the average beach goer. It’s very frustrating living in a place like SD where you can look at the ocean, but you can’t really touch it, lounge around in it and feel it on your skin (unless you are part polar bear). The sand quality is also much better in FL. When I lived in HI I swam a few times a week, in 5 years I’ve been in the ocean only twice in SD.

I do like the hills and hiking of SD though…far superior in that catagory.

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Is the Fla. ocean water refreshing in the summer, though?

Your comments about “frigid” ocean temps here make sense given that you have lived in Hawaii. Growing up here, once water hit 67, I trunked it and thought little of it. 70 is plenty warm for me, even at 33 years old.

I love the winter weather here; just wish there was some more rain/mtn snow. :-). Perfect for hiking. Besides, we can get warm spells pretty much year round. I recall hiking at Santa Rosa Plateau several years ago in January and it reached 90 in afternoon.

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[quote=ctr70]I think if you just take late Nov until April, Florida has better weather in those months than SD. SD has moderate winters with a decent amount of rain, it is not a warm weather climate in winters. South Florida has tropical winters where you can go to the beach and swim in the water and not freeze.

Also, San Diego has extremely cold ocean water. I live here and I never go in the water b/c it’s fridgid…yes even in summer. Unless you are a wet suit surfer, Floridas beaches are much more usable for swimming and snorkeling for the average beach goer. It’s very frustrating living in a place like SD where you can look at the ocean, but you can’t really touch it, lounge around in it and feel it on your skin (unless you are part polar bear). The sand quality is also much better in FL. When I lived in HI I swam a few times a week, in 5 years I’ve been in the ocean only twice in SD.

I do like the hills and hiking of SD though…far superior in that catagory.

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Is the Fla. ocean water refreshing in the summer, though?

Your comments about “frigid” ocean temps here make sense given that you have lived in Hawaii. Growing up here, once water hit 67, I trunked it and thought little of it. 70 is plenty warm for me, even at 33 years old.

I love the winter weather here; just wish there was some more rain/mtn snow. :-). Perfect for hiking. Besides, we can get warm spells pretty much year round. I recall hiking at Santa Rosa Plateau several years ago in January and it reached 90 in afternoon.

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While I have softened my anti-T-town stance as I have aged and had kids, I still ruled it out while we searched and searched for a place in North County. I once drove from Fallbrook to Vista, and sometimes the afternoon surface-street congestion could make my drive home take 30-35 minutes. Even at that relatively paltry sum, I tired of it fast, even if I could listen to music or KFI longer.

My 13-minute San Marcos-to-Dido drive just allows me to crank up the home hifi that much quicker.

Even mellowed, I still find T-town too new and suburban. Yeah, I live in SM, but at least it’s a lot closer to the city when that desire beckons.

Most of the people who move to TV have zero problem having “only” 90s-on, predominantly two-story tracts to choose from. Most of those same era homes exist around my place and I find them terminally duh.

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While I have softened my anti-T-town stance as I have aged and had kids, I still ruled it out while we searched and searched for a place in North County. I once drove from Fallbrook to Vista, and sometimes the afternoon surface-street congestion could make my drive home take 30-35 minutes. Even at that relatively paltry sum, I tired of it fast, even if I could listen to music or KFI longer.

My 13-minute San Marcos-to-Dido drive just allows me to crank up the home hifi that much quicker.

Even mellowed, I still find T-town too new and suburban. Yeah, I live in SM, but at least it’s a lot closer to the city when that desire beckons.

Most of the people who move to TV have zero problem having “only” 90s-on, predominantly two-story tracts to choose from. Most of those same era homes exist around my place and I find them terminally duh.

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While I have softened my anti-T-town stance as I have aged and had kids, I still ruled it out while we searched and searched for a place in North County. I once drove from Fallbrook to Vista, and sometimes the afternoon surface-street congestion could make my drive home take 30-35 minutes. Even at that relatively paltry sum, I tired of it fast, even if I could listen to music or KFI longer.

My 13-minute San Marcos-to-Dido drive just allows me to crank up the home hifi that much quicker.

Even mellowed, I still find T-town too new and suburban. Yeah, I live in SM, but at least it’s a lot closer to the city when that desire beckons.

Most of the people who move to TV have zero problem having “only” 90s-on, predominantly two-story tracts to choose from. Most of those same era homes exist around my place and I find them terminally duh.

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While I have softened my anti-T-town stance as I have aged and had kids, I still ruled it out while we searched and searched for a place in North County. I once drove from Fallbrook to Vista, and sometimes the afternoon surface-street congestion could make my drive home take 30-35 minutes. Even at that relatively paltry sum, I tired of it fast, even if I could listen to music or KFI longer.

My 13-minute San Marcos-to-Dido drive just allows me to crank up the home hifi that much quicker.

Even mellowed, I still find T-town too new and suburban. Yeah, I live in SM, but at least it’s a lot closer to the city when that desire beckons.

Most of the people who move to TV have zero problem having “only” 90s-on, predominantly two-story tracts to choose from. Most of those same era homes exist around my place and I find them terminally duh.

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While I have softened my anti-T-town stance as I have aged and had kids, I still ruled it out while we searched and searched for a place in North County. I once drove from Fallbrook to Vista, and sometimes the afternoon surface-street congestion could make my drive home take 30-35 minutes. Even at that relatively paltry sum, I tired of it fast, even if I could listen to music or KFI longer.

My 13-minute San Marcos-to-Dido drive just allows me to crank up the home hifi that much quicker.

Even mellowed, I still find T-town too new and suburban. Yeah, I live in SM, but at least it’s a lot closer to the city when that desire beckons.

Most of the people who move to TV have zero problem having “only” 90s-on, predominantly two-story tracts to choose from. Most of those same era homes exist around my place and I find them terminally duh.

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[quote=Eugene]Unless you’re close to the coast, a south-facing family room is a negative (it can get too hot and you will end up running higher cooling bills).[/quote]

One of the nicest aspects of our last house was our perch above neighbors in homes just south of us, and the broad view of south side of town. But man, the window-rich/super-tall family room just baked in summer. There was no covered patio in the backyard, rendering it unpleasant.

Our new place is oriented differently — solar seems a near waste — so while darker, it’s far more pleasant to be outside when hot.

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[quote=Eugene]Unless you’re close to the coast, a south-facing family room is a negative (it can get too hot and you will end up running higher cooling bills).[/quote]

One of the nicest aspects of our last house was our perch above neighbors in homes just south of us, and the broad view of south side of town. But man, the window-rich/super-tall family room just baked in summer. There was no covered patio in the backyard, rendering it unpleasant.

Our new place is oriented differently — solar seems a near waste — so while darker, it’s far more pleasant to be outside when hot.

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[quote=Eugene]Unless you’re close to the coast, a south-facing family room is a negative (it can get too hot and you will end up running higher cooling bills).[/quote]

One of the nicest aspects of our last house was our perch above neighbors in homes just south of us, and the broad view of south side of town. But man, the window-rich/super-tall family room just baked in summer. There was no covered patio in the backyard, rendering it unpleasant.

Our new place is oriented differently — solar seems a near waste — so while darker, it’s far more pleasant to be outside when hot.

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[quote=Eugene]Unless you’re close to the coast, a south-facing family room is a negative (it can get too hot and you will end up running higher cooling bills).[/quote]

One of the nicest aspects of our last house was our perch above neighbors in homes just south of us, and the broad view of south side of town. But man, the window-rich/super-tall family room just baked in summer. There was no covered patio in the backyard, rendering it unpleasant.

Our new place is oriented differently — solar seems a near waste — so while darker, it’s far more pleasant to be outside when hot.

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[quote=Eugene]Unless you’re close to the coast, a south-facing family room is a negative (it can get too hot and you will end up running higher cooling bills).[/quote]

One of the nicest aspects of our last house was our perch above neighbors in homes just south of us, and the broad view of south side of town. But man, the window-rich/super-tall family room just baked in summer. There was no covered patio in the backyard, rendering it unpleasant.

Our new place is oriented differently — solar seems a near waste — so while darker, it’s far more pleasant to be outside when hot.

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