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[quote=afx114]Also, Rachel Maddow gives the Oval Office presidential address on the oilspill that Obama should have given: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kax29CwH810.

That lesbian has more balls than Obama. I think I’m in love![/quote]

I adore Rachel Maddow. She is at least borderline brilliant, she is witty, she is direct. And her speech was good, maybe great, as she is an actor playing a role. It was a movie script speech.

But as a practical matter, Obama can’t pass cap and trade using reconciliation. The rules don’t allow for it. He can’t do it by executive order, the rules don’t allow for it. He just can’t do many of the things she suggested in her speech, without the help of congress. Real politic makes it impossible.

I too would have liked to have heard more force and determination from him. He could have done a whole lot better with the speech. But as far as what he can do to fix the problem, I’ve certainly seen no recommendations that are better than what’s being done. He did get BP to set aside $20 billion. That’s humungous.

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[quote=afx114]Also, Rachel Maddow gives the Oval Office presidential address on the oilspill that Obama should have given: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kax29CwH810.

That lesbian has more balls than Obama. I think I’m in love![/quote]

I adore Rachel Maddow. She is at least borderline brilliant, she is witty, she is direct. And her speech was good, maybe great, as she is an actor playing a role. It was a movie script speech.

But as a practical matter, Obama can’t pass cap and trade using reconciliation. The rules don’t allow for it. He can’t do it by executive order, the rules don’t allow for it. He just can’t do many of the things she suggested in her speech, without the help of congress. Real politic makes it impossible.

I too would have liked to have heard more force and determination from him. He could have done a whole lot better with the speech. But as far as what he can do to fix the problem, I’ve certainly seen no recommendations that are better than what’s being done. He did get BP to set aside $20 billion. That’s humungous.

[SK in CV]

[quote=afx114]Also, Rachel Maddow gives the Oval Office presidential address on the oilspill that Obama should have given: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kax29CwH810.

That lesbian has more balls than Obama. I think I’m in love![/quote]

I adore Rachel Maddow. She is at least borderline brilliant, she is witty, she is direct. And her speech was good, maybe great, as she is an actor playing a role. It was a movie script speech.

But as a practical matter, Obama can’t pass cap and trade using reconciliation. The rules don’t allow for it. He can’t do it by executive order, the rules don’t allow for it. He just can’t do many of the things she suggested in her speech, without the help of congress. Real politic makes it impossible.

I too would have liked to have heard more force and determination from him. He could have done a whole lot better with the speech. But as far as what he can do to fix the problem, I’ve certainly seen no recommendations that are better than what’s being done. He did get BP to set aside $20 billion. That’s humungous.

[SK in CV]

[quote=afx114]Also, Rachel Maddow gives the Oval Office presidential address on the oilspill that Obama should have given: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kax29CwH810.

That lesbian has more balls than Obama. I think I’m in love![/quote]

I adore Rachel Maddow. She is at least borderline brilliant, she is witty, she is direct. And her speech was good, maybe great, as she is an actor playing a role. It was a movie script speech.

But as a practical matter, Obama can’t pass cap and trade using reconciliation. The rules don’t allow for it. He can’t do it by executive order, the rules don’t allow for it. He just can’t do many of the things she suggested in her speech, without the help of congress. Real politic makes it impossible.

I too would have liked to have heard more force and determination from him. He could have done a whole lot better with the speech. But as far as what he can do to fix the problem, I’ve certainly seen no recommendations that are better than what’s being done. He did get BP to set aside $20 billion. That’s humungous.

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[quote=walterwhite]i wonder if the rats could end life as we know it on coronado?[/quote]

Yes. 100 years from now our great great grandchildren will be reading about how the rats ate the last surviving retired naval officer in Coronado. It was sad.

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[quote=walterwhite]i wonder if the rats could end life as we know it on coronado?[/quote]

Yes. 100 years from now our great great grandchildren will be reading about how the rats ate the last surviving retired naval officer in Coronado. It was sad.

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[quote=walterwhite]i wonder if the rats could end life as we know it on coronado?[/quote]

Yes. 100 years from now our great great grandchildren will be reading about how the rats ate the last surviving retired naval officer in Coronado. It was sad.

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[quote=walterwhite]i wonder if the rats could end life as we know it on coronado?[/quote]

Yes. 100 years from now our great great grandchildren will be reading about how the rats ate the last surviving retired naval officer in Coronado. It was sad.

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[quote=walterwhite]i wonder if the rats could end life as we know it on coronado?[/quote]

Yes. 100 years from now our great great grandchildren will be reading about how the rats ate the last surviving retired naval officer in Coronado. It was sad.

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[quote=CONCHO]There are probably more stories like this that can be counted. The Easter Islanders died out after deforesting their island. Although they were descendants of the amazing seafaring Polynesian culture, they eventually destroyed so many of their trees that they could no longer manufacture large oceangoing ships. At that point they were trapped on tiny Easter Island. The Easter Islanders eventually resorted to cannibalism and were living in stone age conditions by the time the Spanish arrived.[/quote]

That was the story I’d always heard about Easter Island too. It was a good story. One that supports my belief that humans have to be careful not to shift the delicate balance of nature. (Which I actually don’t believe evidence supports, it’s not balanced at all. It’s chaos. Even without human intervention, it’s just very slow moving chaos.) But anyway, just last night on the discovery channel there was a show on (maybe it was called the wild pacific something like that. Or maybe not, I can’t remember). They crushed the story of the poor bastard Easter Islander who chopped down the last tree, dooming them forever. The claim was that it didn’t happen that way at all. Rather it was rats. Eating the last palm nuts that actually lead to the destruction of the civilization on that tiny island. The rats, though also introduced by humans don’t make for near as good a story.

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[quote=CONCHO]There are probably more stories like this that can be counted. The Easter Islanders died out after deforesting their island. Although they were descendants of the amazing seafaring Polynesian culture, they eventually destroyed so many of their trees that they could no longer manufacture large oceangoing ships. At that point they were trapped on tiny Easter Island. The Easter Islanders eventually resorted to cannibalism and were living in stone age conditions by the time the Spanish arrived.[/quote]

That was the story I’d always heard about Easter Island too. It was a good story. One that supports my belief that humans have to be careful not to shift the delicate balance of nature. (Which I actually don’t believe evidence supports, it’s not balanced at all. It’s chaos. Even without human intervention, it’s just very slow moving chaos.) But anyway, just last night on the discovery channel there was a show on (maybe it was called the wild pacific something like that. Or maybe not, I can’t remember). They crushed the story of the poor bastard Easter Islander who chopped down the last tree, dooming them forever. The claim was that it didn’t happen that way at all. Rather it was rats. Eating the last palm nuts that actually lead to the destruction of the civilization on that tiny island. The rats, though also introduced by humans don’t make for near as good a story.

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[quote=CONCHO]There are probably more stories like this that can be counted. The Easter Islanders died out after deforesting their island. Although they were descendants of the amazing seafaring Polynesian culture, they eventually destroyed so many of their trees that they could no longer manufacture large oceangoing ships. At that point they were trapped on tiny Easter Island. The Easter Islanders eventually resorted to cannibalism and were living in stone age conditions by the time the Spanish arrived.[/quote]

That was the story I’d always heard about Easter Island too. It was a good story. One that supports my belief that humans have to be careful not to shift the delicate balance of nature. (Which I actually don’t believe evidence supports, it’s not balanced at all. It’s chaos. Even without human intervention, it’s just very slow moving chaos.) But anyway, just last night on the discovery channel there was a show on (maybe it was called the wild pacific something like that. Or maybe not, I can’t remember). They crushed the story of the poor bastard Easter Islander who chopped down the last tree, dooming them forever. The claim was that it didn’t happen that way at all. Rather it was rats. Eating the last palm nuts that actually lead to the destruction of the civilization on that tiny island. The rats, though also introduced by humans don’t make for near as good a story.

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[quote=CONCHO]There are probably more stories like this that can be counted. The Easter Islanders died out after deforesting their island. Although they were descendants of the amazing seafaring Polynesian culture, they eventually destroyed so many of their trees that they could no longer manufacture large oceangoing ships. At that point they were trapped on tiny Easter Island. The Easter Islanders eventually resorted to cannibalism and were living in stone age conditions by the time the Spanish arrived.[/quote]

That was the story I’d always heard about Easter Island too. It was a good story. One that supports my belief that humans have to be careful not to shift the delicate balance of nature. (Which I actually don’t believe evidence supports, it’s not balanced at all. It’s chaos. Even without human intervention, it’s just very slow moving chaos.) But anyway, just last night on the discovery channel there was a show on (maybe it was called the wild pacific something like that. Or maybe not, I can’t remember). They crushed the story of the poor bastard Easter Islander who chopped down the last tree, dooming them forever. The claim was that it didn’t happen that way at all. Rather it was rats. Eating the last palm nuts that actually lead to the destruction of the civilization on that tiny island. The rats, though also introduced by humans don’t make for near as good a story.

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[quote=CONCHO]There are probably more stories like this that can be counted. The Easter Islanders died out after deforesting their island. Although they were descendants of the amazing seafaring Polynesian culture, they eventually destroyed so many of their trees that they could no longer manufacture large oceangoing ships. At that point they were trapped on tiny Easter Island. The Easter Islanders eventually resorted to cannibalism and were living in stone age conditions by the time the Spanish arrived.[/quote]

That was the story I’d always heard about Easter Island too. It was a good story. One that supports my belief that humans have to be careful not to shift the delicate balance of nature. (Which I actually don’t believe evidence supports, it’s not balanced at all. It’s chaos. Even without human intervention, it’s just very slow moving chaos.) But anyway, just last night on the discovery channel there was a show on (maybe it was called the wild pacific something like that. Or maybe not, I can’t remember). They crushed the story of the poor bastard Easter Islander who chopped down the last tree, dooming them forever. The claim was that it didn’t happen that way at all. Rather it was rats. Eating the last palm nuts that actually lead to the destruction of the civilization on that tiny island. The rats, though also introduced by humans don’t make for near as good a story.

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[quote=CA renter]
Agree with you that state/local revenue would probably not change too much.

Commercial RE is another issue entirely, but I would also encourage the ownership of a single commercial/industrial building per person or related entity by giving them Prop 13 protection and also allow the MID on a *single* property (there might be some size limitations). The property should be reassessed any time there is an ownership change. People should not be able to pass on their Prop 13 protection via corporations or LLCs, etc. (which simply increases prices on these properties — the seller gets the benefit, but the taxpayers have to subsidize it).

Additionally, multi-family dwellings (apartment buildings) could retain Prop 13 protection, but I’d like to see a way for tenants to somehow benefit from this as well — a shared benefit of sorts.[/quote]

Prop 13 property tax rules apply to all real property in CA, including commercial and multi-unit residential. I suspect it has little or no effect on market rents. Outside of SFRs, rents follow a pretty standard supply and demand model. Values follow income, not the other way around.

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