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ParticipantShark Fact #13: The megalodon is traditionally viewed as being classified within the genus Carcharodon along with the great white shark but others believe that C. megalodon and C. carcharias share a common ancestor known as Carcharodon orientalis.[img_assist|nid=8759|title=Megalodon|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=381|height=298]
Participant[quote=renterclint]I don’t know why so many people keep referring to the concept of “affirmative action” here. That has nothing to do with it. The guy is well educated, has shown pretty good judgement regarding the war, and is one of the best political speakers out there. Given the current environment, I would say timing was on his side too. It seems like the American people are so sick of the current regime, that they are willing to look at some fresh new person, even if they are underqualified. No one stepped aside or GAVE it to him because he was part black. He fought a long hard primary and beat the competition. The people came out in record numbers to vote & he is the person with the most votes. That is not affirmative action, that is democracy.
[/quote]well said.
Participant[quote=renterclint]I don’t know why so many people keep referring to the concept of “affirmative action” here. That has nothing to do with it. The guy is well educated, has shown pretty good judgement regarding the war, and is one of the best political speakers out there. Given the current environment, I would say timing was on his side too. It seems like the American people are so sick of the current regime, that they are willing to look at some fresh new person, even if they are underqualified. No one stepped aside or GAVE it to him because he was part black. He fought a long hard primary and beat the competition. The people came out in record numbers to vote & he is the person with the most votes. That is not affirmative action, that is democracy.
[/quote]well said.
Participant[quote=renterclint]I don’t know why so many people keep referring to the concept of “affirmative action” here. That has nothing to do with it. The guy is well educated, has shown pretty good judgement regarding the war, and is one of the best political speakers out there. Given the current environment, I would say timing was on his side too. It seems like the American people are so sick of the current regime, that they are willing to look at some fresh new person, even if they are underqualified. No one stepped aside or GAVE it to him because he was part black. He fought a long hard primary and beat the competition. The people came out in record numbers to vote & he is the person with the most votes. That is not affirmative action, that is democracy.
[/quote]well said.
Participant[quote=renterclint]I don’t know why so many people keep referring to the concept of “affirmative action” here. That has nothing to do with it. The guy is well educated, has shown pretty good judgement regarding the war, and is one of the best political speakers out there. Given the current environment, I would say timing was on his side too. It seems like the American people are so sick of the current regime, that they are willing to look at some fresh new person, even if they are underqualified. No one stepped aside or GAVE it to him because he was part black. He fought a long hard primary and beat the competition. The people came out in record numbers to vote & he is the person with the most votes. That is not affirmative action, that is democracy.
[/quote]well said.
Participant[quote=renterclint]I don’t know why so many people keep referring to the concept of “affirmative action” here. That has nothing to do with it. The guy is well educated, has shown pretty good judgement regarding the war, and is one of the best political speakers out there. Given the current environment, I would say timing was on his side too. It seems like the American people are so sick of the current regime, that they are willing to look at some fresh new person, even if they are underqualified. No one stepped aside or GAVE it to him because he was part black. He fought a long hard primary and beat the competition. The people came out in record numbers to vote & he is the person with the most votes. That is not affirmative action, that is democracy.
[/quote]well said.
ParticipantWow, I didn’t realize Alaska got enough sun (or warm days) to 1) wear a bikini or 2) get a tan. I guess she can be eye-candy if nothing else.
As a woman, I would not be swayed by this pick if I were a Hillary supporter.
As for the continuous misrepresentations/lies about Obama’s credentials, background, education, experience, I can’t keep posting the “facts” to refute the lies. As for comparison of their respective experience, I honestly can’t see this woman running our country. As a feminist, I wish I could, but I just can’t. She is unimpressive and the experiences of running Podunk, Alaska (it’s only daylight 6 months a year, what is there to govern?) is laughable.
ParticipantWow, I didn’t realize Alaska got enough sun (or warm days) to 1) wear a bikini or 2) get a tan. I guess she can be eye-candy if nothing else.
As a woman, I would not be swayed by this pick if I were a Hillary supporter.
As for the continuous misrepresentations/lies about Obama’s credentials, background, education, experience, I can’t keep posting the “facts” to refute the lies. As for comparison of their respective experience, I honestly can’t see this woman running our country. As a feminist, I wish I could, but I just can’t. She is unimpressive and the experiences of running Podunk, Alaska (it’s only daylight 6 months a year, what is there to govern?) is laughable.
ParticipantWow, I didn’t realize Alaska got enough sun (or warm days) to 1) wear a bikini or 2) get a tan. I guess she can be eye-candy if nothing else.
As a woman, I would not be swayed by this pick if I were a Hillary supporter.
As for the continuous misrepresentations/lies about Obama’s credentials, background, education, experience, I can’t keep posting the “facts” to refute the lies. As for comparison of their respective experience, I honestly can’t see this woman running our country. As a feminist, I wish I could, but I just can’t. She is unimpressive and the experiences of running Podunk, Alaska (it’s only daylight 6 months a year, what is there to govern?) is laughable.
ParticipantWow, I didn’t realize Alaska got enough sun (or warm days) to 1) wear a bikini or 2) get a tan. I guess she can be eye-candy if nothing else.
As a woman, I would not be swayed by this pick if I were a Hillary supporter.
As for the continuous misrepresentations/lies about Obama’s credentials, background, education, experience, I can’t keep posting the “facts” to refute the lies. As for comparison of their respective experience, I honestly can’t see this woman running our country. As a feminist, I wish I could, but I just can’t. She is unimpressive and the experiences of running Podunk, Alaska (it’s only daylight 6 months a year, what is there to govern?) is laughable.
ParticipantWow, I didn’t realize Alaska got enough sun (or warm days) to 1) wear a bikini or 2) get a tan. I guess she can be eye-candy if nothing else.
As a woman, I would not be swayed by this pick if I were a Hillary supporter.
As for the continuous misrepresentations/lies about Obama’s credentials, background, education, experience, I can’t keep posting the “facts” to refute the lies. As for comparison of their respective experience, I honestly can’t see this woman running our country. As a feminist, I wish I could, but I just can’t. She is unimpressive and the experiences of running Podunk, Alaska (it’s only daylight 6 months a year, what is there to govern?) is laughable.
Participant[quote=afx114]No, my point is that everyone should pay an amount that is equal relative to their income. Having to pay $1,000 in taxes on an income of $10,000 could affect how much food gets put on the table or if the kids go to college or if the electric bill gets paid. Having to pay $1,000 in taxes on an income of $1,000,000 means a few less rounds of golf. Big difference.[/quote]
afx: Thanks for posting the WashPost tax graphic and not the “fake forwarded e-mail from zealots for bigotry” version. I was about to add it myself.
And I wholeheartedly agree–it’s supposed to be a “progressive” tax…topping out at x% at $250k and continuing the same percentage through $XX million in income is not “progressive.” And the argument that a higher tax bracket creates disincentive to work hard or innovate is a crock. I don’t think Soros or Buffet will stop going to the office if their tax bracket goes up–they will hardly notice (just their tax law firm will). The poor people trying to eke out a life will be hard hit and will notice it every day and it will influence every decision they make. Buy milk and bread or pay the electic bill or buy a bus pass (no cars at this tax bracket) to get to work…
Even Sir Charles is willing to give a little more, dig a little deeper, to “give back” to those who need it more:
BARKLEY: Well, I think that if you’re rich — I thank God I’ve been very successful — if you’re rich, you’re always going to be rich. If we pay more in taxes, I got no problem with that. If you’re making that kind of money, a couple hundred thousand dollars here or there are not going to change your life.
Let’s be realistic. I’ve been very fortunate and blessed. I did a great job of saving my money. But I got no problem if I’m making that type of money, paying more in taxes to be honest with you.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/26/barkley-economy-incomes/
Participant[quote=afx114]No, my point is that everyone should pay an amount that is equal relative to their income. Having to pay $1,000 in taxes on an income of $10,000 could affect how much food gets put on the table or if the kids go to college or if the electric bill gets paid. Having to pay $1,000 in taxes on an income of $1,000,000 means a few less rounds of golf. Big difference.[/quote]
afx: Thanks for posting the WashPost tax graphic and not the “fake forwarded e-mail from zealots for bigotry” version. I was about to add it myself.
And I wholeheartedly agree–it’s supposed to be a “progressive” tax…topping out at x% at $250k and continuing the same percentage through $XX million in income is not “progressive.” And the argument that a higher tax bracket creates disincentive to work hard or innovate is a crock. I don’t think Soros or Buffet will stop going to the office if their tax bracket goes up–they will hardly notice (just their tax law firm will). The poor people trying to eke out a life will be hard hit and will notice it every day and it will influence every decision they make. Buy milk and bread or pay the electic bill or buy a bus pass (no cars at this tax bracket) to get to work…
Even Sir Charles is willing to give a little more, dig a little deeper, to “give back” to those who need it more:
BARKLEY: Well, I think that if you’re rich — I thank God I’ve been very successful — if you’re rich, you’re always going to be rich. If we pay more in taxes, I got no problem with that. If you’re making that kind of money, a couple hundred thousand dollars here or there are not going to change your life.
Let’s be realistic. I’ve been very fortunate and blessed. I did a great job of saving my money. But I got no problem if I’m making that type of money, paying more in taxes to be honest with you.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/26/barkley-economy-incomes/
Participant[quote=afx114]No, my point is that everyone should pay an amount that is equal relative to their income. Having to pay $1,000 in taxes on an income of $10,000 could affect how much food gets put on the table or if the kids go to college or if the electric bill gets paid. Having to pay $1,000 in taxes on an income of $1,000,000 means a few less rounds of golf. Big difference.[/quote]
afx: Thanks for posting the WashPost tax graphic and not the “fake forwarded e-mail from zealots for bigotry” version. I was about to add it myself.
And I wholeheartedly agree–it’s supposed to be a “progressive” tax…topping out at x% at $250k and continuing the same percentage through $XX million in income is not “progressive.” And the argument that a higher tax bracket creates disincentive to work hard or innovate is a crock. I don’t think Soros or Buffet will stop going to the office if their tax bracket goes up–they will hardly notice (just their tax law firm will). The poor people trying to eke out a life will be hard hit and will notice it every day and it will influence every decision they make. Buy milk and bread or pay the electic bill or buy a bus pass (no cars at this tax bracket) to get to work…
Even Sir Charles is willing to give a little more, dig a little deeper, to “give back” to those who need it more:
BARKLEY: Well, I think that if you’re rich — I thank God I’ve been very successful — if you’re rich, you’re always going to be rich. If we pay more in taxes, I got no problem with that. If you’re making that kind of money, a couple hundred thousand dollars here or there are not going to change your life.
Let’s be realistic. I’ve been very fortunate and blessed. I did a great job of saving my money. But I got no problem if I’m making that type of money, paying more in taxes to be honest with you.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/26/barkley-economy-incomes/
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