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ParticipantI like it! What time is “church?” haha.
One of my complaints with most religions is exactly what he mentions, that adherents won’t engage in meaningful debate. To do that they have to admit 1) the story was written by an infallible human and 2) that there are holes in their story and 3) that there are things they don’t know. (some zealous political adherents are the same way) Faith is frequently cited as the great gap-filler, but I think that is sometimes intellectually dishonest and lazy.
I also like his stated goal of applying the elements of science to belief systems to carve out the ridiculous (my word choice, not his) and to continue exploring and experimenting and measuring to try to get to more information.
I have always hated the religious types who are so arrogant as to believe that they “know it all” or that “it’s true because god says so.” It is such a narrow, subjective stance and discounts the other 100% (minus their presence) of the rest of the universe.
It is gratifying to see someone so smart and well spoken eloquently state one’s own beliefs….
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]
I can probably one-up you on that one. I think I know more about the Bible and the history of its creation than most Christians. (for example, not only can I make a strong case, complete with Biblical citations, that Jesus’ mother was not a virgin, but I can even explain why the virgin myth became part of the canon.)[/quote]
Well…? Now you have to go there….
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]
I can probably one-up you on that one. I think I know more about the Bible and the history of its creation than most Christians. (for example, not only can I make a strong case, complete with Biblical citations, that Jesus’ mother was not a virgin, but I can even explain why the virgin myth became part of the canon.)[/quote]
Well…? Now you have to go there….
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]
I can probably one-up you on that one. I think I know more about the Bible and the history of its creation than most Christians. (for example, not only can I make a strong case, complete with Biblical citations, that Jesus’ mother was not a virgin, but I can even explain why the virgin myth became part of the canon.)[/quote]
Well…? Now you have to go there….
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]
I can probably one-up you on that one. I think I know more about the Bible and the history of its creation than most Christians. (for example, not only can I make a strong case, complete with Biblical citations, that Jesus’ mother was not a virgin, but I can even explain why the virgin myth became part of the canon.)[/quote]
Well…? Now you have to go there….
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]
I can probably one-up you on that one. I think I know more about the Bible and the history of its creation than most Christians. (for example, not only can I make a strong case, complete with Biblical citations, that Jesus’ mother was not a virgin, but I can even explain why the virgin myth became part of the canon.)[/quote]
Well…? Now you have to go there….
ParticipantArraya, you make some good points.
ParticipantArraya, you make some good points.
ParticipantArraya, you make some good points.
ParticipantArraya, you make some good points.
ParticipantArraya, you make some good points.
Participant[quote=gandalf]I don’t know. I like the MLK quote and all, but this is Bin Laden we’re talking about. 9/11 was horrible.
I think we had some tentacles in there somewhere. It’s possible people in the know let it happen, but AQ was the perpetrator, what happened was evil, and justice has been done.
Q: Why does Bin Laden carry a bag of shit around in his pocket?
A: Photo ID…[/quote]
Rus: I like the MLK quote too but unfortunately light and love are poor weapons–look at the massacre of the monks in Tibet(?) a year or so ago. I will say again that his death was a necessary evil but it was still revenge.
The higher ground would have been capture and trial, along the lines of Hussein. From news reports, it doesn’t seem like he significantly resisted capture. Maybe he was just executed to make the mission easier. I wouldn’t make much noise if bringing him back alive would have jeopardized the mission–kill him and be done. But I don’t find much joy in it, like I’ve said.
It’s been bad form for the US to celebrate his death by what was essentially another act of terrorism, if you think about it.
Gandalf: is that tentacles or Tentacles?
Participant[quote=gandalf]I don’t know. I like the MLK quote and all, but this is Bin Laden we’re talking about. 9/11 was horrible.
I think we had some tentacles in there somewhere. It’s possible people in the know let it happen, but AQ was the perpetrator, what happened was evil, and justice has been done.
Q: Why does Bin Laden carry a bag of shit around in his pocket?
A: Photo ID…[/quote]
Rus: I like the MLK quote too but unfortunately light and love are poor weapons–look at the massacre of the monks in Tibet(?) a year or so ago. I will say again that his death was a necessary evil but it was still revenge.
The higher ground would have been capture and trial, along the lines of Hussein. From news reports, it doesn’t seem like he significantly resisted capture. Maybe he was just executed to make the mission easier. I wouldn’t make much noise if bringing him back alive would have jeopardized the mission–kill him and be done. But I don’t find much joy in it, like I’ve said.
It’s been bad form for the US to celebrate his death by what was essentially another act of terrorism, if you think about it.
Gandalf: is that tentacles or Tentacles?
Participant[quote=gandalf]I don’t know. I like the MLK quote and all, but this is Bin Laden we’re talking about. 9/11 was horrible.
I think we had some tentacles in there somewhere. It’s possible people in the know let it happen, but AQ was the perpetrator, what happened was evil, and justice has been done.
Q: Why does Bin Laden carry a bag of shit around in his pocket?
A: Photo ID…[/quote]
Rus: I like the MLK quote too but unfortunately light and love are poor weapons–look at the massacre of the monks in Tibet(?) a year or so ago. I will say again that his death was a necessary evil but it was still revenge.
The higher ground would have been capture and trial, along the lines of Hussein. From news reports, it doesn’t seem like he significantly resisted capture. Maybe he was just executed to make the mission easier. I wouldn’t make much noise if bringing him back alive would have jeopardized the mission–kill him and be done. But I don’t find much joy in it, like I’ve said.
It’s been bad form for the US to celebrate his death by what was essentially another act of terrorism, if you think about it.
Gandalf: is that tentacles or Tentacles?
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