Ot; new religion on the rise; possibilians

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV] I’m not a believer (in much of anything), but that doesn’t mean that I think religion doesn’t have some important lessons. As do fairy tales.[/quote]

That reflects exactly how I feel.

[bearishgurl]

I’ve seen many people whom I would consider in dire straights (or soon to be there if a crisis wasn’t averted) repeatedly state, “God will provide.”

I feel this statement is just used as a smokescreen to deflect the listener’s attention off the things the (troubled person) can easily do for themselves to have more control over their futures.

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}

[bearishgurl]

I’ve seen many people whom I would consider in dire straights (or soon to be there if a crisis wasn’t averted) repeatedly state, “God will provide.”

I feel this statement is just used as a smokescreen to deflect the listener’s attention off the things the (troubled person) can easily do for themselves to have more control over their futures.

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}

[bearishgurl]

I’ve seen many people whom I would consider in dire straights (or soon to be there if a crisis wasn’t averted) repeatedly state, “God will provide.”

I feel this statement is just used as a smokescreen to deflect the listener’s attention off the things the (troubled person) can easily do for themselves to have more control over their futures.

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}

[bearishgurl]

I’ve seen many people whom I would consider in dire straights (or soon to be there if a crisis wasn’t averted) repeatedly state, “God will provide.”

I feel this statement is just used as a smokescreen to deflect the listener’s attention off the things the (troubled person) can easily do for themselves to have more control over their futures.

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}

[bearishgurl]

I’ve seen many people whom I would consider in dire straights (or soon to be there if a crisis wasn’t averted) repeatedly state, “God will provide.”

I feel this statement is just used as a smokescreen to deflect the listener’s attention off the things the (troubled person) can easily do for themselves to have more control over their futures.

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV] On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]

If I may ask, what is your favorite left wing blog?

I don’t participate in any other blog other that Piggington and SDLookup. Between those two and reading the NYT, WaPo, SDUT, LATimes and various foreign news sites, I don’t have time for much more internet surfing.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV] On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]

If I may ask, what is your favorite left wing blog?

I don’t participate in any other blog other that Piggington and SDLookup. Between those two and reading the NYT, WaPo, SDUT, LATimes and various foreign news sites, I don’t have time for much more internet surfing.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV] On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]

If I may ask, what is your favorite left wing blog?

I don’t participate in any other blog other that Piggington and SDLookup. Between those two and reading the NYT, WaPo, SDUT, LATimes and various foreign news sites, I don’t have time for much more internet surfing.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV] On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]

If I may ask, what is your favorite left wing blog?

I don’t participate in any other blog other that Piggington and SDLookup. Between those two and reading the NYT, WaPo, SDUT, LATimes and various foreign news sites, I don’t have time for much more internet surfing.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV] On my favorite left wing blog, I was recently described by a friend as “the most religious non-believer that I’ve ever come across” because of my bibical citations.[/quote]

If I may ask, what is your favorite left wing blog?

I don’t participate in any other blog other that Piggington and SDLookup. Between those two and reading the NYT, WaPo, SDUT, LATimes and various foreign news sites, I don’t have time for much more internet surfing.

[njtosd]

[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

[njtosd]

[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

[njtosd]

[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

[njtosd]

[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

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