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ParticipantI know but it is an Open Listing (i.e. essentially a FSBO) and has been pending at least 45 days. Without a professionals help they might be in a shaky escrow. I dont know one way or the other but dont be surprised if it sits in escrow for a long time or falls out.
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ParticipantYour welcome
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ParticipantIf you are thrilled with the price why were you on JimtheRealtor’s site questioning whether you sold too cheaply yesterday? You did the right thing and got a great price. Stop questioning whether you could have squeezed out another $10K and be happy with the huge profit you realized in cash.
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ParticipantI wasnt slamming Bob at all? I just looked at his name and thought it ironic. Personally, I believe his reports are improving over time.
Sorry but you are the one on the attack…..
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Participantdoes anyone else find it funny that his name loosely translates to BIGHOUSE? (i.e. Casa=House and Grand=Big)
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ParticipantNo you simply thread skim. I said it was socioeconomic but that data is not available so looking at the English as a 2nd language data serves as a good surrogate data point in the Encinitas area where they are predominantly hispanic households working in agriculture.
You were the one ranting about the 20 year residents not speaking English. Why dont you just apologize for taking my comments out of context and running in a different direction than what I said?
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ParticipantBUgs and Concho,
I’m with you on the schools. I attended one of the Top 50 high schools in the country. We had about 800 students of which about 100 went on to attend Ivy League Schools and 90+% went onto to 4 year universities. When I got to college there were plenty of kids from lower rated schools that kicked my butt because of the work ethic and level of commitment instilled by their parents. There were also plenty of spoiled rich kids who amounted to nothing.As for the MLS numbers, anecdotally you can expect the numbers to rise another 10% or so when all is said and done. I agree that it still doesnt change the trend decline. There are alot of hurting agents out there and will be more. I hear lots of grumbling from inspectors, pest control companies, appraisers, escrow, title and particularly mortgage folks. I look forward to the winnowing out of the weaker fish that is coming.
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ParticipantStill missing the point out there. I’m not talking about low API score schools. I’m talking about the second tier not those located in poor areas. The difference between the high API schools and second tier schools is about more diversity. Take a school like La Costa Canyon with API scores of 782. if you look at that you miss the point I am making. 6% of the students are english learners and their API scores average 493. These students are likely from long time families involved in agriculture. At Torrey pines which has an API of 821 only 3% are English leaners and their API scores average about 625. Thes estudents are likely from recent immigrants with well educated but not english speaking parents. Thats the biggest difference between these two schools.
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ParticipantSorry I have an open house….
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Participant“As an Asian American, I’m really sick of guys like you using the “they grew up in a non-English speaking household” argument to defend the Hispanics that have been here for 20 years and still speak no English. When at the same time most Asians grew up also in non-English speaking homes and end up being high income professionals.”
Sure you might have come from a non-english speaking household, but did you come from a household where your parents did not have a 3rd grade education? It’s a tough cycle to beat and those that do deserve all the credit in the world. If you are one from this background you really deserve all the success you will have. But this isnt my point and you taking me away from my point.
Bright kids will do well where ever they go as long as they come from good homes that value education. The API scores are averages that skew towards areas without economic diversity. In Encinitas some schools have higher API scores but take a good kid from a good family with involved parents and I question whether they will do any better or worse at the worst school or the best school in the district. My point is to take the time to look inside the data and not just take it for face value.
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ParticipantStop trying to make this a racial discussion a**h** when it isnt. It is an economic point not a racial point. The hispanic kids in the areas I mentioned grow up in good families with loving parents. I know many of them and have all the respect in the world for them. English is not the primary language spoken at home and education is not as highly valued. As for the asian kids, they grow up in families where education is valued above all else as it is in my household (BTW, I am not of asian decent though many of my clients are). The children and their parents typically speak english at home as a first language.
Looking at the data by ethnicity largely serves as a surrogate for household income in most areas around here. If the data was available by HH income you would see the same thing.
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ParticipantBeen very busy but saw this which is one of my pet peeves. A big factor in API scores is the demographics. The API scores are available by ethnicity and what you frequently find is the middle class caucasian/asian kids scores are very similar from school to school. When you have hispanic kids growing up in homes that english is the second language you will naturally see lower API scores for them that will pull down the schools average. Thus High API scores is often as much a factor of a lack of diversity as anything else. A school like Olivenhain Pioneer in Encinitas has traditionally scored highest because there are no apartments and no attached housing feeding into that school. Now you have a school like El Camino Creek (about 5 years old in South Carlsbad)which enjoys similar demographics and as high or higher API scores. You also have Capri in Encinitas that has 50% of the kids growing up in non-English speaking households. However, the other kids live in some of the most expensive homes in the area at Encinitas Ranch. When these non-english speaking kids get to La Costa Canyon high they pull down the averages. The truth is the bright kids from good familes at LCC are just as smart as those at TP or Poway, the school just has a bit more diversity. MIra Mesa High is probably another example of this where half the kids are from homes where education is valued and half are not. Good kids from good families will excell whereever they are. As long as there arent disciplinary or gang problems, I say live where you want. When comparing API scores you really need to adjust for ethnicity because it frequently explains much of the difference.
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ParticipantBugs,
The missing part of the equation is what happened last year in these ZIP’s. I ran a few of them and found a 20 to 30% bump from May to June. As for the June 2006 numbers, it is way too early to run these numbers. In another week or two alot of the closing that happened at the end of June but weren’t reported should be in and the June numbers will improve. Unfortunately, I expect it will still show a decline. From what I am seeing, July will be worse not better. -
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