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Participant[quote=orthofrancis]Unless the household average income is 100,000 dollars, then it should be even lower than that.[/quote]
That’s assuming that all households can be owners, which hasn’t historically been true in So Cal. So Cal real estate has always been a bit higher relative to household average income than nationally, which is why, also historically, the ratio of renters to owners in So Cal is higher (San Diego and LA generally are right around a 50% renter/50% owner split, compared to, for instance, the midwest which is about a 33/67 split).
I did a workup based on available census statistics a few months past that came to the conclusion that the average household income in San Diego for homeowners is right about $95000. OC I think would be a little bit higher overall, so this sounds about right to me.
Participant[quote=orthofrancis]Unless the household average income is 100,000 dollars, then it should be even lower than that.[/quote]
That’s assuming that all households can be owners, which hasn’t historically been true in So Cal. So Cal real estate has always been a bit higher relative to household average income than nationally, which is why, also historically, the ratio of renters to owners in So Cal is higher (San Diego and LA generally are right around a 50% renter/50% owner split, compared to, for instance, the midwest which is about a 33/67 split).
I did a workup based on available census statistics a few months past that came to the conclusion that the average household income in San Diego for homeowners is right about $95000. OC I think would be a little bit higher overall, so this sounds about right to me.
Participant[quote=orthofrancis]Unless the household average income is 100,000 dollars, then it should be even lower than that.[/quote]
That’s assuming that all households can be owners, which hasn’t historically been true in So Cal. So Cal real estate has always been a bit higher relative to household average income than nationally, which is why, also historically, the ratio of renters to owners in So Cal is higher (San Diego and LA generally are right around a 50% renter/50% owner split, compared to, for instance, the midwest which is about a 33/67 split).
I did a workup based on available census statistics a few months past that came to the conclusion that the average household income in San Diego for homeowners is right about $95000. OC I think would be a little bit higher overall, so this sounds about right to me.
Participant[quote=orthofrancis]Unless the household average income is 100,000 dollars, then it should be even lower than that.[/quote]
That’s assuming that all households can be owners, which hasn’t historically been true in So Cal. So Cal real estate has always been a bit higher relative to household average income than nationally, which is why, also historically, the ratio of renters to owners in So Cal is higher (San Diego and LA generally are right around a 50% renter/50% owner split, compared to, for instance, the midwest which is about a 33/67 split).
I did a workup based on available census statistics a few months past that came to the conclusion that the average household income in San Diego for homeowners is right about $95000. OC I think would be a little bit higher overall, so this sounds about right to me.
Participant[quote=orthofrancis]Unless the household average income is 100,000 dollars, then it should be even lower than that.[/quote]
That’s assuming that all households can be owners, which hasn’t historically been true in So Cal. So Cal real estate has always been a bit higher relative to household average income than nationally, which is why, also historically, the ratio of renters to owners in So Cal is higher (San Diego and LA generally are right around a 50% renter/50% owner split, compared to, for instance, the midwest which is about a 33/67 split).
I did a workup based on available census statistics a few months past that came to the conclusion that the average household income in San Diego for homeowners is right about $95000. OC I think would be a little bit higher overall, so this sounds about right to me.
Participant[quote=sfexporter]Can you really picture her running the country in case something happens to McCain? Let’s face the fact, McCain picks her simply because she is a woman to get votes from the female voters and not because of her experience. The more she speaks the more she will help the Obama’s campaign. No need for the debate, game over. Dems will win in a landslide. [/quote]
They clearly don’t want her speaking. She declined appearances with both CNN and NBC after the debate.
I suspect that the only time she’ll speak outside of the next debate between now and the election is in front of hand-picked crowds of supporters, and with a thoroughly memorized speech.
That’s, of course, assuming she survives the debate – which I think is seriously in question at this point. Biden is a formidable debater, and is likely to make mincemeat of her.
Participant[quote=sfexporter]Can you really picture her running the country in case something happens to McCain? Let’s face the fact, McCain picks her simply because she is a woman to get votes from the female voters and not because of her experience. The more she speaks the more she will help the Obama’s campaign. No need for the debate, game over. Dems will win in a landslide. [/quote]
They clearly don’t want her speaking. She declined appearances with both CNN and NBC after the debate.
I suspect that the only time she’ll speak outside of the next debate between now and the election is in front of hand-picked crowds of supporters, and with a thoroughly memorized speech.
That’s, of course, assuming she survives the debate – which I think is seriously in question at this point. Biden is a formidable debater, and is likely to make mincemeat of her.
Participant[quote=sfexporter]Can you really picture her running the country in case something happens to McCain? Let’s face the fact, McCain picks her simply because she is a woman to get votes from the female voters and not because of her experience. The more she speaks the more she will help the Obama’s campaign. No need for the debate, game over. Dems will win in a landslide. [/quote]
They clearly don’t want her speaking. She declined appearances with both CNN and NBC after the debate.
I suspect that the only time she’ll speak outside of the next debate between now and the election is in front of hand-picked crowds of supporters, and with a thoroughly memorized speech.
That’s, of course, assuming she survives the debate – which I think is seriously in question at this point. Biden is a formidable debater, and is likely to make mincemeat of her.
Participant[quote=sfexporter]Can you really picture her running the country in case something happens to McCain? Let’s face the fact, McCain picks her simply because she is a woman to get votes from the female voters and not because of her experience. The more she speaks the more she will help the Obama’s campaign. No need for the debate, game over. Dems will win in a landslide. [/quote]
They clearly don’t want her speaking. She declined appearances with both CNN and NBC after the debate.
I suspect that the only time she’ll speak outside of the next debate between now and the election is in front of hand-picked crowds of supporters, and with a thoroughly memorized speech.
That’s, of course, assuming she survives the debate – which I think is seriously in question at this point. Biden is a formidable debater, and is likely to make mincemeat of her.
Participant[quote=sfexporter]Can you really picture her running the country in case something happens to McCain? Let’s face the fact, McCain picks her simply because she is a woman to get votes from the female voters and not because of her experience. The more she speaks the more she will help the Obama’s campaign. No need for the debate, game over. Dems will win in a landslide. [/quote]
They clearly don’t want her speaking. She declined appearances with both CNN and NBC after the debate.
I suspect that the only time she’ll speak outside of the next debate between now and the election is in front of hand-picked crowds of supporters, and with a thoroughly memorized speech.
That’s, of course, assuming she survives the debate – which I think is seriously in question at this point. Biden is a formidable debater, and is likely to make mincemeat of her.
ParticipantBTW, several of the CNN analysts were CLEARLY quite peeved at her refusal to make any attempt at an appearance, and took a few shots at her.
I can understand why. To my knowledge, never before has a vice presidential candidate been so thoroughly choreographed and sheltered from the press. Even Quayle – liability that he was – was made available.
Frankly, she’s looking more and more like a pin-up that McCain brought on simply because she was a female and he thought that would appeal to the Hillary crowd. Got news for you – women are, in general, and especially in the Hillary crowd, smart enough to see through that ploy.
ParticipantBTW, several of the CNN analysts were CLEARLY quite peeved at her refusal to make any attempt at an appearance, and took a few shots at her.
I can understand why. To my knowledge, never before has a vice presidential candidate been so thoroughly choreographed and sheltered from the press. Even Quayle – liability that he was – was made available.
Frankly, she’s looking more and more like a pin-up that McCain brought on simply because she was a female and he thought that would appeal to the Hillary crowd. Got news for you – women are, in general, and especially in the Hillary crowd, smart enough to see through that ploy.
ParticipantBTW, several of the CNN analysts were CLEARLY quite peeved at her refusal to make any attempt at an appearance, and took a few shots at her.
I can understand why. To my knowledge, never before has a vice presidential candidate been so thoroughly choreographed and sheltered from the press. Even Quayle – liability that he was – was made available.
Frankly, she’s looking more and more like a pin-up that McCain brought on simply because she was a female and he thought that would appeal to the Hillary crowd. Got news for you – women are, in general, and especially in the Hillary crowd, smart enough to see through that ploy.
ParticipantBTW, several of the CNN analysts were CLEARLY quite peeved at her refusal to make any attempt at an appearance, and took a few shots at her.
I can understand why. To my knowledge, never before has a vice presidential candidate been so thoroughly choreographed and sheltered from the press. Even Quayle – liability that he was – was made available.
Frankly, she’s looking more and more like a pin-up that McCain brought on simply because she was a female and he thought that would appeal to the Hillary crowd. Got news for you – women are, in general, and especially in the Hillary crowd, smart enough to see through that ploy.
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