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September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM in reply to: “Mark-to-fantasy” accounting changes…and your chance to be heard #608179September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM in reply to: “Mark-to-fantasy” accounting changes…and your chance to be heard #608732
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ParticipantWould be nice. I’ll believe it when I see it.
September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM in reply to: “Mark-to-fantasy” accounting changes…and your chance to be heard #608842ParticipantWould be nice. I’ll believe it when I see it.
September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM in reply to: “Mark-to-fantasy” accounting changes…and your chance to be heard #609159ParticipantWould be nice. I’ll believe it when I see it.
ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
Participant[quote=briansd1]You are right, Ren.
The question remains: will American companies build most of the cars we drive 30 years from now?It looks like gas guzzlers are depreciating really fast these days.
Look at the resale price of this Mercedes S430.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/mercedesbenz/sclass/8716/prices.htmlA used Prius, which originally sold for much less, is worth more.[/quote]
Interesting.
This, I have no problems with !
Brian, I have to admit since you have turned over a new leaf of avoiding the political bitch-wars, your posts are much more insightful – all around. I actually stop and think about your posts now.
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