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SD Realtor
Participantuco –
“I generally use my facts and analysis on this board because I feel the “quality of clientèle” is better. If I try the logic approach to a member of the general public, it is often too much for them to handle and their eyes glaze over. They then grasp a one of the statements the RE hypers have used to counter. Sorry if I sound like Tanta or Calculated Risk…”
Which is a good thing. I am not in stark disagreement with your argument as I said before. In theory it makes perfect sense.
“I was also bringing in the fact that many of the non-savy buyers have already shot their wad… of cash to coin a phrase. They don’t have money to buy in now. The ones that have money to buy in are the savy buyers (who probably haven’t contacted a Realtor yet because they know this thing has legs in the downward direction) and wannabe savy who are fence sitters sitting on the edge of their seat.”
Which makes great sense to me… Uco I wish I could tell you where they come from (the buyers) but I don’t think we will ever see a disruption in the demand until we have a an event… what are they called? Black swan moments? Until we see engineers, biotech people, and the likes of the 150k salaries getting seriously disrupted, the supply lines for the 750k homes will stay pretty much intact. In fact I would say that to be regardless of this non conforming nonsense unless somehow the rates skyrocketed up. In my opinion we need a more substantial event then we have had to push 4S down to 470k or other wishful pricings like people have posted about. I think that in lieu of something like that we will have a very measured ride down over several years. Now contrary moves to subsidize the market, (I lump this move and other political bs in the same basket) are like you said, not even close to being intended to help anyone. They are intended to mask or delay the inevitable.
The fluff that NAR puts out, is to me, no different then the smell I deal with when I change the kids. I hold my nose, wipe em up, and throw the waste in the trash. Your explanation makes perfect sense and in no way do I disagree with the facts. Eventually one thinks, (at least I think) that it all catches up… it has to catch up doesn’t it? Yet I know to many people where this cut will make a difference. Will it push them into the market? Perhaps. Yet when has NAR ever said RE sucks? In a hot market they say buy now before you get priced out and in a p.o.s market they say buy now cuz it is a good deal.
Anyways no need for saying sorry if you sound link Tanta or Calculated Risk at all because I agree. Besides I lurk over there all the time and it all makes sense to me. Believe me what you and they say makes perfect sense to me. I used to not understand buyers psyche but I do now, I am just not good at explaining it.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
Participantuco –
“I generally use my facts and analysis on this board because I feel the “quality of clientèle” is better. If I try the logic approach to a member of the general public, it is often too much for them to handle and their eyes glaze over. They then grasp a one of the statements the RE hypers have used to counter. Sorry if I sound like Tanta or Calculated Risk…”
Which is a good thing. I am not in stark disagreement with your argument as I said before. In theory it makes perfect sense.
“I was also bringing in the fact that many of the non-savy buyers have already shot their wad… of cash to coin a phrase. They don’t have money to buy in now. The ones that have money to buy in are the savy buyers (who probably haven’t contacted a Realtor yet because they know this thing has legs in the downward direction) and wannabe savy who are fence sitters sitting on the edge of their seat.”
Which makes great sense to me… Uco I wish I could tell you where they come from (the buyers) but I don’t think we will ever see a disruption in the demand until we have a an event… what are they called? Black swan moments? Until we see engineers, biotech people, and the likes of the 150k salaries getting seriously disrupted, the supply lines for the 750k homes will stay pretty much intact. In fact I would say that to be regardless of this non conforming nonsense unless somehow the rates skyrocketed up. In my opinion we need a more substantial event then we have had to push 4S down to 470k or other wishful pricings like people have posted about. I think that in lieu of something like that we will have a very measured ride down over several years. Now contrary moves to subsidize the market, (I lump this move and other political bs in the same basket) are like you said, not even close to being intended to help anyone. They are intended to mask or delay the inevitable.
The fluff that NAR puts out, is to me, no different then the smell I deal with when I change the kids. I hold my nose, wipe em up, and throw the waste in the trash. Your explanation makes perfect sense and in no way do I disagree with the facts. Eventually one thinks, (at least I think) that it all catches up… it has to catch up doesn’t it? Yet I know to many people where this cut will make a difference. Will it push them into the market? Perhaps. Yet when has NAR ever said RE sucks? In a hot market they say buy now before you get priced out and in a p.o.s market they say buy now cuz it is a good deal.
Anyways no need for saying sorry if you sound link Tanta or Calculated Risk at all because I agree. Besides I lurk over there all the time and it all makes sense to me. Believe me what you and they say makes perfect sense to me. I used to not understand buyers psyche but I do now, I am just not good at explaining it.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
Participantuco –
“I generally use my facts and analysis on this board because I feel the “quality of clientèle” is better. If I try the logic approach to a member of the general public, it is often too much for them to handle and their eyes glaze over. They then grasp a one of the statements the RE hypers have used to counter. Sorry if I sound like Tanta or Calculated Risk…”
Which is a good thing. I am not in stark disagreement with your argument as I said before. In theory it makes perfect sense.
“I was also bringing in the fact that many of the non-savy buyers have already shot their wad… of cash to coin a phrase. They don’t have money to buy in now. The ones that have money to buy in are the savy buyers (who probably haven’t contacted a Realtor yet because they know this thing has legs in the downward direction) and wannabe savy who are fence sitters sitting on the edge of their seat.”
Which makes great sense to me… Uco I wish I could tell you where they come from (the buyers) but I don’t think we will ever see a disruption in the demand until we have a an event… what are they called? Black swan moments? Until we see engineers, biotech people, and the likes of the 150k salaries getting seriously disrupted, the supply lines for the 750k homes will stay pretty much intact. In fact I would say that to be regardless of this non conforming nonsense unless somehow the rates skyrocketed up. In my opinion we need a more substantial event then we have had to push 4S down to 470k or other wishful pricings like people have posted about. I think that in lieu of something like that we will have a very measured ride down over several years. Now contrary moves to subsidize the market, (I lump this move and other political bs in the same basket) are like you said, not even close to being intended to help anyone. They are intended to mask or delay the inevitable.
The fluff that NAR puts out, is to me, no different then the smell I deal with when I change the kids. I hold my nose, wipe em up, and throw the waste in the trash. Your explanation makes perfect sense and in no way do I disagree with the facts. Eventually one thinks, (at least I think) that it all catches up… it has to catch up doesn’t it? Yet I know to many people where this cut will make a difference. Will it push them into the market? Perhaps. Yet when has NAR ever said RE sucks? In a hot market they say buy now before you get priced out and in a p.o.s market they say buy now cuz it is a good deal.
Anyways no need for saying sorry if you sound link Tanta or Calculated Risk at all because I agree. Besides I lurk over there all the time and it all makes sense to me. Believe me what you and they say makes perfect sense to me. I used to not understand buyers psyche but I do now, I am just not good at explaining it.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
ParticipantLook guys,
I think my defense mechanism kicked in for a justified reason. First off, I think the post was made in the same nature as some of the, “look what these realtors are stooping to now” sort of postings. In and off itself that is fine.
However when one thinks about it, doesn’t it make perfect sense? I don’t know how many people that post here are in sales. I would assume not many of you. Me, I am an engineer but doing the real estate brokerage for a few years now has exposed me to things I would have never seen or thought of.
Take a guy like Gary Kent. Do you think he made all his money sitting in his office doing floor time? People here love to bang the neighborhood expert that comes and knocks on his door. You think that guy would get more business sitting at his local Prudential office waiting for you to come in? The top producers in real estate invariably are the men and women who market themselves, who bust ass and get after it. You see what I am saying? No matter what your profession is, if you wait for the nugget to find you then you will ALWAYS be no more then someone who will never be at the top.
As an engineer I used to get very irritated with people who didn’t grok things quickly. If it was intuitive to me why wouldn’t it be intuitive to anyone. After all I am not an Einstein by any means. I took many a sideways glance at my buddys test in some of my upper level classes at UCSD. Nonetheless every time I think I have outgrown that behavior, it rears it’s ugly head every now and then. In this case I guess I don’t understand the reasoning why people post about surprising new ways they see realtors trying to market themselves.
After all they are sales people right?
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
ParticipantLook guys,
I think my defense mechanism kicked in for a justified reason. First off, I think the post was made in the same nature as some of the, “look what these realtors are stooping to now” sort of postings. In and off itself that is fine.
However when one thinks about it, doesn’t it make perfect sense? I don’t know how many people that post here are in sales. I would assume not many of you. Me, I am an engineer but doing the real estate brokerage for a few years now has exposed me to things I would have never seen or thought of.
Take a guy like Gary Kent. Do you think he made all his money sitting in his office doing floor time? People here love to bang the neighborhood expert that comes and knocks on his door. You think that guy would get more business sitting at his local Prudential office waiting for you to come in? The top producers in real estate invariably are the men and women who market themselves, who bust ass and get after it. You see what I am saying? No matter what your profession is, if you wait for the nugget to find you then you will ALWAYS be no more then someone who will never be at the top.
As an engineer I used to get very irritated with people who didn’t grok things quickly. If it was intuitive to me why wouldn’t it be intuitive to anyone. After all I am not an Einstein by any means. I took many a sideways glance at my buddys test in some of my upper level classes at UCSD. Nonetheless every time I think I have outgrown that behavior, it rears it’s ugly head every now and then. In this case I guess I don’t understand the reasoning why people post about surprising new ways they see realtors trying to market themselves.
After all they are sales people right?
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
ParticipantLook guys,
I think my defense mechanism kicked in for a justified reason. First off, I think the post was made in the same nature as some of the, “look what these realtors are stooping to now” sort of postings. In and off itself that is fine.
However when one thinks about it, doesn’t it make perfect sense? I don’t know how many people that post here are in sales. I would assume not many of you. Me, I am an engineer but doing the real estate brokerage for a few years now has exposed me to things I would have never seen or thought of.
Take a guy like Gary Kent. Do you think he made all his money sitting in his office doing floor time? People here love to bang the neighborhood expert that comes and knocks on his door. You think that guy would get more business sitting at his local Prudential office waiting for you to come in? The top producers in real estate invariably are the men and women who market themselves, who bust ass and get after it. You see what I am saying? No matter what your profession is, if you wait for the nugget to find you then you will ALWAYS be no more then someone who will never be at the top.
As an engineer I used to get very irritated with people who didn’t grok things quickly. If it was intuitive to me why wouldn’t it be intuitive to anyone. After all I am not an Einstein by any means. I took many a sideways glance at my buddys test in some of my upper level classes at UCSD. Nonetheless every time I think I have outgrown that behavior, it rears it’s ugly head every now and then. In this case I guess I don’t understand the reasoning why people post about surprising new ways they see realtors trying to market themselves.
After all they are sales people right?
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
ParticipantLook guys,
I think my defense mechanism kicked in for a justified reason. First off, I think the post was made in the same nature as some of the, “look what these realtors are stooping to now” sort of postings. In and off itself that is fine.
However when one thinks about it, doesn’t it make perfect sense? I don’t know how many people that post here are in sales. I would assume not many of you. Me, I am an engineer but doing the real estate brokerage for a few years now has exposed me to things I would have never seen or thought of.
Take a guy like Gary Kent. Do you think he made all his money sitting in his office doing floor time? People here love to bang the neighborhood expert that comes and knocks on his door. You think that guy would get more business sitting at his local Prudential office waiting for you to come in? The top producers in real estate invariably are the men and women who market themselves, who bust ass and get after it. You see what I am saying? No matter what your profession is, if you wait for the nugget to find you then you will ALWAYS be no more then someone who will never be at the top.
As an engineer I used to get very irritated with people who didn’t grok things quickly. If it was intuitive to me why wouldn’t it be intuitive to anyone. After all I am not an Einstein by any means. I took many a sideways glance at my buddys test in some of my upper level classes at UCSD. Nonetheless every time I think I have outgrown that behavior, it rears it’s ugly head every now and then. In this case I guess I don’t understand the reasoning why people post about surprising new ways they see realtors trying to market themselves.
After all they are sales people right?
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
ParticipantLook guys,
I think my defense mechanism kicked in for a justified reason. First off, I think the post was made in the same nature as some of the, “look what these realtors are stooping to now” sort of postings. In and off itself that is fine.
However when one thinks about it, doesn’t it make perfect sense? I don’t know how many people that post here are in sales. I would assume not many of you. Me, I am an engineer but doing the real estate brokerage for a few years now has exposed me to things I would have never seen or thought of.
Take a guy like Gary Kent. Do you think he made all his money sitting in his office doing floor time? People here love to bang the neighborhood expert that comes and knocks on his door. You think that guy would get more business sitting at his local Prudential office waiting for you to come in? The top producers in real estate invariably are the men and women who market themselves, who bust ass and get after it. You see what I am saying? No matter what your profession is, if you wait for the nugget to find you then you will ALWAYS be no more then someone who will never be at the top.
As an engineer I used to get very irritated with people who didn’t grok things quickly. If it was intuitive to me why wouldn’t it be intuitive to anyone. After all I am not an Einstein by any means. I took many a sideways glance at my buddys test in some of my upper level classes at UCSD. Nonetheless every time I think I have outgrown that behavior, it rears it’s ugly head every now and then. In this case I guess I don’t understand the reasoning why people post about surprising new ways they see realtors trying to market themselves.
After all they are sales people right?
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
Participantheheheheh… sorry if it seemed offensive. Rereading it yeah it did sound that way. I guess something that is kind of everyday to me (the fact that realtors market at banks) kind of did irk me when I see a post expressing surprise at the occurrence. Sorry about that.
No it wasn’t me…. but honestly, if a bank manager did allow me to market inside a bank, I would do it in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t spend time in there handing out cookies as I simply don’t have the time to do that, but I would print up flyers and have then in some stands.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
Participantheheheheh… sorry if it seemed offensive. Rereading it yeah it did sound that way. I guess something that is kind of everyday to me (the fact that realtors market at banks) kind of did irk me when I see a post expressing surprise at the occurrence. Sorry about that.
No it wasn’t me…. but honestly, if a bank manager did allow me to market inside a bank, I would do it in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t spend time in there handing out cookies as I simply don’t have the time to do that, but I would print up flyers and have then in some stands.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
Participantheheheheh… sorry if it seemed offensive. Rereading it yeah it did sound that way. I guess something that is kind of everyday to me (the fact that realtors market at banks) kind of did irk me when I see a post expressing surprise at the occurrence. Sorry about that.
No it wasn’t me…. but honestly, if a bank manager did allow me to market inside a bank, I would do it in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t spend time in there handing out cookies as I simply don’t have the time to do that, but I would print up flyers and have then in some stands.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
Participantheheheheh… sorry if it seemed offensive. Rereading it yeah it did sound that way. I guess something that is kind of everyday to me (the fact that realtors market at banks) kind of did irk me when I see a post expressing surprise at the occurrence. Sorry about that.
No it wasn’t me…. but honestly, if a bank manager did allow me to market inside a bank, I would do it in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t spend time in there handing out cookies as I simply don’t have the time to do that, but I would print up flyers and have then in some stands.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
Participantheheheheh… sorry if it seemed offensive. Rereading it yeah it did sound that way. I guess something that is kind of everyday to me (the fact that realtors market at banks) kind of did irk me when I see a post expressing surprise at the occurrence. Sorry about that.
No it wasn’t me…. but honestly, if a bank manager did allow me to market inside a bank, I would do it in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t spend time in there handing out cookies as I simply don’t have the time to do that, but I would print up flyers and have then in some stands.
SD Realtor
SD Realtor
ParticipantThe owners of blue now live in North Carolina. They have no worries regarding money, let’s put it that way. I know she has a tremendous involvement with Cookie Lee jewelry and she is a very nice lady.
Yeppers red was bought by a flipper and as I said they are the same people flipping Avenida Magnifica. Anyone that buys it for the 800 or so they are asking will be intrigued to know it went for low 600’s a few months ago.
SD Realtor
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