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[quote=Adebisi](…) I’ve never seen such a gathering of financially clueless and naive people in one place.

I’ve been working on some business deals that I hope to get some Piggs involved with. I’ll have more details in a few weeks. Based on what I’ve seen on this board so far, I’m sure more than a few Piggs will jump at the opportunities I’ll be offering.[/quote]

…uhmmm, because many Piggs are financially clueless, you want to offer them some ‘opportunities’ because they’ll jump at them? LOL.

just kidding, that how it comes out.

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Very well said, CA R!
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I think it’s because they feel duped. They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

They (and many of us?) are coming to the conclusion that the stable jobs, defined-benefit pension plans, readily-available healthcare/insurance, etc. will not be available as promised to them. They seem to feel as if those who came before them left behind a barren world where the younger generations will have to work to pay off the debts incurred by the lavish lifestyles of those who came before them…and the younger generations will not have the financial security nor the “middle class lifestyle” enjoyed by the older generations.

While some may consider this an “entitled” mentality, I think they have a point.[/quote]

I could not agree more.

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Very well said, CA R!
[quote=CA renter]
I think it’s because they feel duped. They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

They (and many of us?) are coming to the conclusion that the stable jobs, defined-benefit pension plans, readily-available healthcare/insurance, etc. will not be available as promised to them. They seem to feel as if those who came before them left behind a barren world where the younger generations will have to work to pay off the debts incurred by the lavish lifestyles of those who came before them…and the younger generations will not have the financial security nor the “middle class lifestyle” enjoyed by the older generations.

While some may consider this an “entitled” mentality, I think they have a point.[/quote]

I could not agree more.

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Very well said, CA R!
[quote=CA renter]
I think it’s because they feel duped. They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

They (and many of us?) are coming to the conclusion that the stable jobs, defined-benefit pension plans, readily-available healthcare/insurance, etc. will not be available as promised to them. They seem to feel as if those who came before them left behind a barren world where the younger generations will have to work to pay off the debts incurred by the lavish lifestyles of those who came before them…and the younger generations will not have the financial security nor the “middle class lifestyle” enjoyed by the older generations.

While some may consider this an “entitled” mentality, I think they have a point.[/quote]

I could not agree more.

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Very well said, CA R!
[quote=CA renter]
I think it’s because they feel duped. They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

They (and many of us?) are coming to the conclusion that the stable jobs, defined-benefit pension plans, readily-available healthcare/insurance, etc. will not be available as promised to them. They seem to feel as if those who came before them left behind a barren world where the younger generations will have to work to pay off the debts incurred by the lavish lifestyles of those who came before them…and the younger generations will not have the financial security nor the “middle class lifestyle” enjoyed by the older generations.

While some may consider this an “entitled” mentality, I think they have a point.[/quote]

I could not agree more.

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Very well said, CA R!
[quote=CA renter]
I think it’s because they feel duped. They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

They (and many of us?) are coming to the conclusion that the stable jobs, defined-benefit pension plans, readily-available healthcare/insurance, etc. will not be available as promised to them. They seem to feel as if those who came before them left behind a barren world where the younger generations will have to work to pay off the debts incurred by the lavish lifestyles of those who came before them…and the younger generations will not have the financial security nor the “middle class lifestyle” enjoyed by the older generations.

While some may consider this an “entitled” mentality, I think they have a point.[/quote]

I could not agree more.

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Excellent suggestion, jp! I also agree with the disruption and uncertainty.

And 92037renter, that’s also another excellent idea very well worth considering – it gives you something to fall back on – it’s not a irreversible thing.

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Excellent suggestion, jp! I also agree with the disruption and uncertainty.

And 92037renter, that’s also another excellent idea very well worth considering – it gives you something to fall back on – it’s not a irreversible thing.

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Excellent suggestion, jp! I also agree with the disruption and uncertainty.

And 92037renter, that’s also another excellent idea very well worth considering – it gives you something to fall back on – it’s not a irreversible thing.

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Excellent suggestion, jp! I also agree with the disruption and uncertainty.

And 92037renter, that’s also another excellent idea very well worth considering – it gives you something to fall back on – it’s not a irreversible thing.

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Excellent suggestion, jp! I also agree with the disruption and uncertainty.

And 92037renter, that’s also another excellent idea very well worth considering – it gives you something to fall back on – it’s not a irreversible thing.

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How easy it is to find a rental you like when you want it?

1900 sf – well, with 3 kids, it depends on the floor plan. If it’s just 3 bdr, it can be a bit tight. I feel that many floor plans tend to waste space. I can understand the desire to have more rooms.

Is it easy to find a house as nice and large as desired in the same or better location on the market WHENEVER you want -i.e. when you sell the place???

IT is a real pain to time those things – and nice homes for renting are not exactly easy to find when you want them, at least where I am looking, and you end up settling. Things that you don’t realize when looking at a rental (vs. buying) start to raise their ugly heads soon after move in. (The floors are squeaky, the whole house is drafty, you get too much noise/sun, the light and bathroom fixtures are not quite right, there is a smell somewhere, stains/cracks you didn’t see, obnoxious neighbor, etc. etc.). And being a rental, it’s a waste of time/money to add upgrades, so you will start longing for your old house, that you ‘owned’ and you could do what you want in it to suit you.

AND It is NOT fun to move, especially with small kids. Take into account the transaction costs for selling, and then the moving expenses? Nevermind the pain of packing and moving a whole house.

Maybe relatively close to your work, there are nice houses that suit your wife’s preferences, that come on the market all the time. But IMHO, you can count only on rental apartments/condos to have something you want when you want it.

It’s not only dollars and cents to take into account. I don’t think you will save that much money if you are going to rent a 3000 sf place, but you really should go and look at a few places for rental (from Craigslist, etc.) and see how many come on the market, how they suit you – go visit them. Do that for a couple months, weigh pros and cons for each place. Look at some low 2000 sf as well, maybe some have a much better floor plan for your needs and see if all of you are ok with it for a few years to save money.

If I’d be in your place, I’d try to find a cheaper rental, even it means staying in the same square footage to save money while you repair your credit. I would upgrade to a larger house when I’d buy it.

I guess what I am saying, do your homework, be aware of all the traps out there in the rental world, know what you are in for and if you are all ok with it (especially that the rental house will not be as ‘ideal’ as your old house, with potentially annoying issues), then, dump the house.

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Also, take into account, that, due to various circumstances (not just landlord selling/losing the place), you may have to move to another rental after only a year or two, and to deal with that hassle all over again. Your credit scores may affect then your ability to get the rental you want.

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How easy it is to find a rental you like when you want it?

1900 sf – well, with 3 kids, it depends on the floor plan. If it’s just 3 bdr, it can be a bit tight. I feel that many floor plans tend to waste space. I can understand the desire to have more rooms.

Is it easy to find a house as nice and large as desired in the same or better location on the market WHENEVER you want -i.e. when you sell the place???

IT is a real pain to time those things – and nice homes for renting are not exactly easy to find when you want them, at least where I am looking, and you end up settling. Things that you don’t realize when looking at a rental (vs. buying) start to raise their ugly heads soon after move in. (The floors are squeaky, the whole house is drafty, you get too much noise/sun, the light and bathroom fixtures are not quite right, there is a smell somewhere, stains/cracks you didn’t see, obnoxious neighbor, etc. etc.). And being a rental, it’s a waste of time/money to add upgrades, so you will start longing for your old house, that you ‘owned’ and you could do what you want in it to suit you.

AND It is NOT fun to move, especially with small kids. Take into account the transaction costs for selling, and then the moving expenses? Nevermind the pain of packing and moving a whole house.

Maybe relatively close to your work, there are nice houses that suit your wife’s preferences, that come on the market all the time. But IMHO, you can count only on rental apartments/condos to have something you want when you want it.

It’s not only dollars and cents to take into account. I don’t think you will save that much money if you are going to rent a 3000 sf place, but you really should go and look at a few places for rental (from Craigslist, etc.) and see how many come on the market, how they suit you – go visit them. Do that for a couple months, weigh pros and cons for each place. Look at some low 2000 sf as well, maybe some have a much better floor plan for your needs and see if all of you are ok with it for a few years to save money.

If I’d be in your place, I’d try to find a cheaper rental, even it means staying in the same square footage to save money while you repair your credit. I would upgrade to a larger house when I’d buy it.

I guess what I am saying, do your homework, be aware of all the traps out there in the rental world, know what you are in for and if you are all ok with it (especially that the rental house will not be as ‘ideal’ as your old house, with potentially annoying issues), then, dump the house.

Edit:
Also, take into account, that, due to various circumstances (not just landlord selling/losing the place), you may have to move to another rental after only a year or two, and to deal with that hassle all over again. Your credit scores may affect then your ability to get the rental you want.

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How easy it is to find a rental you like when you want it?

1900 sf – well, with 3 kids, it depends on the floor plan. If it’s just 3 bdr, it can be a bit tight. I feel that many floor plans tend to waste space. I can understand the desire to have more rooms.

Is it easy to find a house as nice and large as desired in the same or better location on the market WHENEVER you want -i.e. when you sell the place???

IT is a real pain to time those things – and nice homes for renting are not exactly easy to find when you want them, at least where I am looking, and you end up settling. Things that you don’t realize when looking at a rental (vs. buying) start to raise their ugly heads soon after move in. (The floors are squeaky, the whole house is drafty, you get too much noise/sun, the light and bathroom fixtures are not quite right, there is a smell somewhere, stains/cracks you didn’t see, obnoxious neighbor, etc. etc.). And being a rental, it’s a waste of time/money to add upgrades, so you will start longing for your old house, that you ‘owned’ and you could do what you want in it to suit you.

AND It is NOT fun to move, especially with small kids. Take into account the transaction costs for selling, and then the moving expenses? Nevermind the pain of packing and moving a whole house.

Maybe relatively close to your work, there are nice houses that suit your wife’s preferences, that come on the market all the time. But IMHO, you can count only on rental apartments/condos to have something you want when you want it.

It’s not only dollars and cents to take into account. I don’t think you will save that much money if you are going to rent a 3000 sf place, but you really should go and look at a few places for rental (from Craigslist, etc.) and see how many come on the market, how they suit you – go visit them. Do that for a couple months, weigh pros and cons for each place. Look at some low 2000 sf as well, maybe some have a much better floor plan for your needs and see if all of you are ok with it for a few years to save money.

If I’d be in your place, I’d try to find a cheaper rental, even it means staying in the same square footage to save money while you repair your credit. I would upgrade to a larger house when I’d buy it.

I guess what I am saying, do your homework, be aware of all the traps out there in the rental world, know what you are in for and if you are all ok with it (especially that the rental house will not be as ‘ideal’ as your old house, with potentially annoying issues), then, dump the house.

Edit:
Also, take into account, that, due to various circumstances (not just landlord selling/losing the place), you may have to move to another rental after only a year or two, and to deal with that hassle all over again. Your credit scores may affect then your ability to get the rental you want.

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How easy it is to find a rental you like when you want it?

1900 sf – well, with 3 kids, it depends on the floor plan. If it’s just 3 bdr, it can be a bit tight. I feel that many floor plans tend to waste space. I can understand the desire to have more rooms.

Is it easy to find a house as nice and large as desired in the same or better location on the market WHENEVER you want -i.e. when you sell the place???

IT is a real pain to time those things – and nice homes for renting are not exactly easy to find when you want them, at least where I am looking, and you end up settling. Things that you don’t realize when looking at a rental (vs. buying) start to raise their ugly heads soon after move in. (The floors are squeaky, the whole house is drafty, you get too much noise/sun, the light and bathroom fixtures are not quite right, there is a smell somewhere, stains/cracks you didn’t see, obnoxious neighbor, etc. etc.). And being a rental, it’s a waste of time/money to add upgrades, so you will start longing for your old house, that you ‘owned’ and you could do what you want in it to suit you.

AND It is NOT fun to move, especially with small kids. Take into account the transaction costs for selling, and then the moving expenses? Nevermind the pain of packing and moving a whole house.

Maybe relatively close to your work, there are nice houses that suit your wife’s preferences, that come on the market all the time. But IMHO, you can count only on rental apartments/condos to have something you want when you want it.

It’s not only dollars and cents to take into account. I don’t think you will save that much money if you are going to rent a 3000 sf place, but you really should go and look at a few places for rental (from Craigslist, etc.) and see how many come on the market, how they suit you – go visit them. Do that for a couple months, weigh pros and cons for each place. Look at some low 2000 sf as well, maybe some have a much better floor plan for your needs and see if all of you are ok with it for a few years to save money.

If I’d be in your place, I’d try to find a cheaper rental, even it means staying in the same square footage to save money while you repair your credit. I would upgrade to a larger house when I’d buy it.

I guess what I am saying, do your homework, be aware of all the traps out there in the rental world, know what you are in for and if you are all ok with it (especially that the rental house will not be as ‘ideal’ as your old house, with potentially annoying issues), then, dump the house.

Edit:
Also, take into account, that, due to various circumstances (not just landlord selling/losing the place), you may have to move to another rental after only a year or two, and to deal with that hassle all over again. Your credit scores may affect then your ability to get the rental you want.

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