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ParticipantCould you have a separate contract to be paid a monthly fee for the loan, at some discount to the actual savings?
ParticipantColorado legalizing before CA. Truly embarrassing … CA is out of it.
ParticipantActually we always allow spiders to live and Web in the house.
We like spiders. Like to watch them work. Also they catch bugs.
Participant[quote=svelte]I find it amusing that so many think that humans are unquestionably the superior species and all others are unimportant or subserviant.
It is a mindset I don’t quite understand. The us versus them mentality. You’re either one of us or you’re not. Protect things similar to me first.
Would you save someone with the same hair color as you first?
What about the Fuhrer who put forth that Germans were superior?[/quote]
I don’t think of dogs as pure “animals”. They are a human creation bred specifically to please u s. They are sentient but I am superior. I dislike I think more precisely the intensely overvalued statusand relationship Americans today have with dogs.
That one could say it is unreasonable see dogs as subservient is frankly the whole problem
We had a dog died a few years ago. Dog was nice german shepherd boxer mix loved me best because I was a runner as nd the dog lived to run. I’d run her off leash in a remote area 5 days a week. I d run 5 miles in hills and she woild probably run 20 25 maybe in circles. Dog loved me best also because she knew I was alpha. We had her 9 years from when she was a small pup.
I yelled at her. Was very forceful physically and psychologically with her. She obeyed verbal commands instantly ev en if she were chasing a rabbit cause I treated her in a very dominant tough manner. Would literally change direction in mid leap and come trotting back to me Wouldn’t listen to my wife at all. She was “nice” to the dog.
Dogs were meant to be rigidly controlled and
subservient. Not equals…
treated “mean”
I have no idea how shit came off the rails but dogs in general 99 percent today are out of fuck ing control. They kind of obey sort of when they feel like it to a chorus of goodboygoodboygoidboy.
sickening!
When I Say Come here I Mean Right THIS FUCKING second you lowly dog!!!! And once ou’re trained praise is minimal…
this country is going to the dogs.
OBEY!!!!!!!!!!
I kinda liked tha t old running dog. These other dogs we have are crap: I’ve spent zero time with them. They do not obey always and promptly. A dog that doesn’t listen should be killed if untrained. Also all mixes. Impure non german shepherds should be killed. Next cat I’ll name Godwin in honor of this thread.
ParticipantWhat is the meaning of life?
A lot of fussing and fighting to get a piggyback ride.
Yeah we were watching David at ten borough narrate various bruralities.
ParticipantTrue. No. They just wanted to make me watch videos of animals eating other animals.
Hmm.. Kind of ironic now that I thinkbofbit.
Participant[quote=EconProf]This dialogue is depressing. It reveals some people are actually willing to selfishly put thier dog ahead of another human being?? Amazing.
Fortunately, there are still a few good Samaritans here though.[/quote]Jesus
did not have a sheepdog.Participant[quote=Blogstar]There is a huge irony here.
About a month ago you were ranting about how your 18 year old, and adult children in general, could care less about their parents and only want what they want…keep costing money….we will all become burdens at best.Now it’s dogs vs. humans…makes no sense.
Your kid has cost and will cost way more than any dog..probably has bitten as many people as most dogs, doesn’t love you as much as my dog loves me. And I can get more for my Australian Shepard than you can for you kid and can’t get in trouble for selling him…..Dogs aren’t looking that bad.[/quote]Irony, inconsistency and dark humor are pretty much all I have. Reproduction is not rational.
However I must say we had a very hilarious repartee at dinner today w whole family present. Hard to put a dollar value on it but I’d say roughly $12,677 worth of entertainment tonite alone.
Next on my reading list. Boredom ; a lively history by Peter toohey.
ParticipantI doubt that the myth of the dog in general matches up to dog reality both in terms of how good the dog is and how much time a nd interaction actually occurs. The dog carries a lot of psychological baggage for people.
I am not mak ing sense.
Dogs mean something I don’t get currently. Being a dog hater is just a few steps up from child molest or nowadays I’d say. It wasn’t always this way.
Participant[quote=CA renter]As much as I agree that dogs are not equivalent to humans, they aren’t objects, either.
My mom had a friend who was saved by her dog. She went swimming in their backyard and became unconscious (seizure?). The dog jumped into the pool and grabbed her by the bathing suit and dragged her over to the steps where she kept watch over her until she came to.
There are many other stories just like this. And then there are all the service dogs out there. They are life-changing animals.
I’m not a “dog person,” per se (mostly because of the dirt, poo, and extra maintenance), but I have the utmost respect for dogs. They are incredible companion animals, and I have no doubt that many of them are fully capable of truly loving humans.
Still, I would not chose to save a dog over a human.[/quote]
true. But I still hate (most) dogs.Participant[quote=EconProf]I wish the poll had been conducted somewhat differently.
They should have asked “Would you pick your dog or a foreign tourist to live? Assume you would have to inform, in person, the family of the deceased foreign tourist whose death you are responsible for.”[/quote]Too uncomfortable. Better as posed.
Participant[quote=Blogstar]My parents and my golden retriever were deceased before my kids were born. Without and real grooming on my part, thave grown to consider all three of them to be ancestors. Yesterday the youngest one said that when our current dog passes, on the day of the dead, he will put flowers on his grave and that of the golden retriever….he wants to throw the flowers out on the ocean for my parents since that’s where their ashes were scattered.
It’s interesting because I am not one of those “dogs are human” people…but it does prove that you are the on who is fucked up about dogs, scaredy.[/quote]
I accept that.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]It’s not about the dogs. It’s about humans.
I loved my dog because I raised her and I knew her. I don’t know the foreign tourist.
I loved my dog because she was a constant faithful companion. I loved looking at her cute face. She made no demands of me other than exercise, food and body massages.
When you have to deal with the egos of humans you appreciate dogs more. Humans are psychotic. They have insecurities and they always worry about being dissed.
I very much enjoyed the peacefulness of quiet times petting my dog.
Ok, you can puke already.[/quote]
you know the foreign tourist is a human being. You know your dog is a dog and you can choose from 10000 replacement dogs. You still get to keep your happy fur petting memories. Is that not enough? Must the person die so you can pat your puppy a few more times?
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]That professor’s study is like asking would you rather have a dog or contribute to end child hunger, if you had only one choice. Thankfully, we have many choices.
My own personal experience is that good dog owners are kinder people.
Also, aren’t humans eternally in search of feel good moments and flattery? All the better if a dog fulfills some of that.[/quote]
no. you are wrong. flat, dead, profoundly, foolishly, misreading, thickheadedly WRONG.
the question is not whether you will end hunger, or lose money. you wont. your dog is presumably worth nothing monetarily
you are only asked whether this thing, this animal, similar to animals you merrily chow down upon every day of the week…
(not because you must, but merely because it tickles your palate, because you like the taste of charred animal flesh, grease not unlike the grease of your dogs fat dribbling down your chin, merely because you find it satiating)
whetehr this particular animal you like is worth more than a human.
The question is; is a dog you own worth more than a man you dont.
there’s nothing about hunger or losing money, there’s no “false choice”….
dog.
man.
your plaything.
a fellow human.
no cost to you. zero loss…y
say hypotehtically youget another coupledozen dogs free, say, pick your fav, dump back the rest….probably wouldnt matter. people would still pick their own attachment to their own particular pooch.
with no monetary value.
over a living fellow human being on the planet…
im sorry. that’s cold. that’s fucked up. that’s not cool. even if the person is an asshole…but the example is NOT that the eprson’s an asshole. the question is a random person, an unknown person to you…
i mean, put yourself in the place of the parent of the random person selected. you learn some douchebag with a 12 year old half blind german shepherd elected to save her companion animal rather than your beautiful, smart, lovely 6 year old daughter. sorry, francois, your daughter, must die because i cannot bear the thought of an early separation from my dear Scruffy.
On what FUCKING planet is that ok? On what basis could one begin to justify such a choice , evern if you and your daughter are “foreigners? the question is not about a bad person and a dog, the question is about a morally unknwon person and a dog.
On what planet does the parent of the child, if all this is known, not go find the dog owner and kill them?
i could understand wanting to hold on to 100$ more than I could holding on to a dog….this self love, this affection for ones slave…i mean…it is not morally defensible…
it is based on a mass psychosis that our dogs are our freinds. theya re not…they are dogs…they sing for their meal. they do not love you…stop feeding your dog, for a month and have your neigjbor feed it tbone foramonth. see where the dogs affections lie….with the food….and the neighbor who are you again????
i despise dogs
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