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if you were drafted and unpaid…what would such a military look like?[/quote]Feels like a good setup for another ‘in Soviet Russia’ joke.[/quote]
In soviet russia, the people worship power. In the USA, the people worship power. wait. it’s supposed to eb the opposite. hmmm. how are we different again?
“Marines Never Die — They Just Go To Hell And Re-Group”
Participantwhen you actually look at the data there on servicemen deaths in the link above, combat is not the majority cause/ percentage of the deaths. in some years, suicide is as likely to be the cause of death as combat. when you combine accident and suicide, those risks outweigh the risk of death than combat.
i suppose one could be grateful to the military who cannot hack it and off themselves, for taking on the psychological risks of meaninglessly putting their lives on the line and pointlessly killing hundreds and thousands of innocent people to further American financial interests, but that seems a stretch.
Suicide is generally viewed as a coward’s way out. Moreover it is against the law. and finally, if you’re so distressed by the idea of killing a lot of people, then maybe it would be better not to join a military group with a proven record of nondefensive, effective killing.
or perhaps just go to the shops and look at the braggodocio ont he tshirts for sale.
KILL EM ALL. LET G-D SORT EM OUT.
The marines. when you absolutely positively need something destroyed overnight.
United States Marine Corps
Leader of men, teller of tall tales, legend in his own mind, U.S. Marine extraordinaire, stream fordable, air dropable, beer fueled, water cooled, author, history maker, lecturer, traveler, freedom fighter, defender of the faith. Wars fought, tigers tamed, revolutions started, bars emptied, alligators castrated. Let me win your hearts and minds or I’ll burn your damn hut downlike, when you see the above shirt, if you’re not int he mood to see some dead bodies of all ages shapes and sizes, maybe you shoudl ask some more questions of the recruiter…not sure where that particularly asinine last one comes from, but it seems to be the signature line on many marine website postings. the last sentence, if not meant in an ironic, selfmocking way is actually freakishly disturbing, if you actually stop to think about it. the rest of it is just irritating as hell, how badass these old marines think they are. and while a certain percentage are, the vast majority are probably not. at least not without their buddies and the full force of the military machine behind them.
Participantinteresting book on my shelf called ON SPEED. history of amphetamines. speed, meth, have a bizarre history in the USA. meth wasn’t actually criminalized until 1970. it was super widely available prior to that…and somehow we survived. it was a “miracle drug” that was EVERYWHERE….the people loved it, doctors prescribed it, and the cheap way to get it was in vick’s inhalers. you’d open em up, take out the inhaler pads froma few of them, mix them in coffee, and VOILA, a hefty dose of speed.
the real question is, was JFK a speed freak? the evidence is unclear, but in the new book, DR.FEELGOOD, it looks to me the authors make a decent case that JFK was getting heft doses of steroids and meth from his doctor. which was not particularly sensational at the time, as it was perfectly legal and acceotable to do so….
meth is what we demonize today. tomorrow it shall be something else.
Participant[quote=zk][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi] I’ve never had the urge to try any kind of drug. [/quote]
Reminds me of the old joke, “Reality is for people who can’t handle drugs.”[/quote]
I honestly believe drugs improved my life.[/quote]
I don’t know if they’ve improved my life significantly, but some of my fondest memories of my pre-fatherhood days are of doing mushrooms. Great fun. Very connected to…everything and everyone. Just brilliant, really.
Obviously you want to stay away from meth and coke. Some people are in great danger of getting horribly addicted the very first time they take meth or freebase coke. Alcohol and opiates are dangerous, too. Marijuana? Might make you lazy and you shouldn’t drive, but it’s fun and it probably won’t kill you. Psychedelics? I think they’re pretty good stuff. LSD can last too long. Shrooms are…great.[/quote]
MLB star tony gwynn just died at 54 from chewing tobacco. lots of famous coke freaks, like sigmund freud and Halsted, the founder of Johns Hopkins U., had heavy duty habits and lived long fruitful lives. I’d be willing to bet $50 if we broke down the data, you’d be weird and impaired on coke but live a long life, and tend yto die sooner with tobacco than coke or meth.
Participantthe problem with just decriminalizing mushrooms or LSD is then they won’t be available for sale down at the local CVS. that’s why we need full legalization. I put the odds of this at approximately 0% in my lifetime.
Participanti do not wish to be thanked. I don’t want gratitude.
I only want to be admired for my sheer awesomeness..but it must be genuine. i t can be spotaneous, any time of year.
Participantfrog and toad, though friends, will not generally get you high. it’s a very speciifc toad. don’t just go randomly sucking on amphibians…
but seriously, while drugs harm some, they may provide deep insigts and lasting changes that benefit others. on balance, psychedlic mushrooms, LSDand all hallucinogenic toads should be legal.
Participantvermin supreme is running again in 2016 ad I am definitely going to try to get the vote out for him then!
all politicians are vermin; but he is Vermin Supreme!
ParticipantA constant stream of broken promises, ubiquitous in political campaigning, continues to fool many voters in every election. While such promises tend to increase voter apathy, this in turn leads candidates to adopt more sophisticated strategies in making promises which they may lack any ability to implement once in office. Political satire makes an easy target of this cliché problem in political discourse. In the candidacy of Vermin Supreme, he promises if elected that he will provide free ponies for all Americans (Walker). This satirical promise developed in a spontaneous moment of inspiration during Senator John Kerry’s campaign to win the Democratic Party primary in New Hampshire. During an anti-war rally, a call-and-response chant repeatedly asked “What do we want?” To this, activists predictably responded, “Peace!” After a few repetitions of this chant, Vermin Supreme interjected his own response: “A pony!” This quickly spread through the rally, and Supreme had a new campaign platform (Kennedy 114-115). Since that inspired moment, Supreme’s promise of free ponies for all Americans has become more elaborate, and he now promises free pony healthcare and subsidized pony housing (Steer 11). With the original ridiculous promise, Supreme mocks the promises of all politicians and moreover draws attention to the way that politicians easily shift the focus from ideal outcomes, such as peace, to material wishes. Over time, Supreme has built upon this to directly criticize campaigns which appeal to the American dream of home ownership and the promise of universal healthcare.
Participantthe military has become an object of quasiworship. its primary article of faith is that we owe everything we are, everything we have and all of our future to our military. our very freedom and life depend ont he willingness of brave men adn women to don the uniform and protect us.
to have this discussion in public, that perhaps the military has nothing to do wtih protecting us, the nation, our freedoms, out constitution, even amongst purported friends, to contradict this, would to invite ostracism, hatred and perhaps a sound beating. so much for freedom of speech. you technically have the right, and the govt wont shut you down, but everyone’s so inculcated and persuaded and on the same page the govt doesn’t have to.
this, ultimately, is why i voted for vermin Supreme for President. He was focussed on getting ponies for all citizens, not illegal warfare.
ParticipantOk. That seems like a reasonable moderately conservative position.
Participant[quote=zk][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi] I’ve never had the urge to try any kind of drug. [/quote]
Reminds me of the old joke, “Reality is for people who can’t handle drugs.”[/quote]
I honestly believe drugs improved my life.[/quote]
I don’t know if they’ve improved my life significantly, but some of my fondest memories of my pre-fatherhood days are of doing mushrooms. Great fun. Very connected to…everything and everyone. Just brilliant, really.
Obviously you want to stay away from meth and coke. Some people are in great danger of getting horribly addicted the very first time they take meth or freebase coke. Alcohol and opiates are dangerous, too. Marijuana? Might make you lazy and you shouldn’t drive, but it’s fun and it probably won’t kill you. Psychedelics? I think they’re pretty good stuff. LSD can last too long. Shrooms are…great.[/quote]
Shrooms are too short and gentle for the task at hand. Steve Jobs recommends LSD.
. Of course there was way more time in the past so shortness and long Ness were different. But the electric Kool aid mushroom test just sounds wrong.
Did I ever mention http://www.peyoteway.org
Legal peyote church in AZ.
Website says 300.oo to join. Looks very remote. Might be therapeutic for all the tightly wound piggs, myself included. Mushrooms have lots of validated therapeutic effects but probably won’t get legalized soon. Maybe peyote churches springing up near casinos?
Ay caramba bad trip…
Participant[quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi] I’ve never had the urge to try any kind of drug. [/quote]
Reminds me of the old joke, “Reality is for people who can’t handle drugs.”[/quote]
I honestly believe drugs improved my life.
Participantactually, apart from being in the infantry, mortality risk for servicemen overall are as low or maybe lower than the USA population as a whole…
http://www.beforeyousignup.info/joining/army/54-danger
but as dangerous jobs go, military is not very dangerous…
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