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ParticipantSuicide rates jump during the holidays.
Why?
Expectations.
Depression also jumps.
ParticipantStill disagree.
Children have wonder for everything.
By overstimulating with lights, presents, music etc, we actually reduce their capacity for wonder. They need increasingly bigger doses. A simple dried dandelion stalk no longer suffices.
I suppose it is OK to say merry christmas. Just leave it there.
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]Bah Humbug LOL,
Go out and buy new bikes or something for you and the family.[/quote]
Uh, no way. No gifts.
We only buy upon need or a deal.
Christmas is not merry. It should be spent in serious introspective reflection, preferably in a cold new England church.
Participant[quote=doofrat][quote=scaredyclassic]It was a crime in colonial puritan america,to celebrate xmas.
They are rolling over in their Graves at our utter commercialization of the Lord.[/quote]
Third generation atheist here and even I celebrate Christmas: tree, lights, food, decorations, presents, cards.
Yeah, it’s totally lost it’s original meaning, but it’s still a fun holiday and you get time off work :)[/quote]
Only pagans are into Christmas. When this nation was founded, Christmas was not a national holiday. Indeed, The Senate sometimes was actually in session on Christmas day during the earlier years of our nation. The Puritan spirit prevailed, which basically was, Christmas day is bogus, and you don’t celebrate Jesus’ birth, whatever day it was, by partying gift giving and merriment. . We were not just about consumption of goods and foods. We were a serious people. The puritan spirit reigned supreme for many years. It was commonly known anf understood a t hat time that 12/25 was not the birthday of the Savior, but was merely selected because it was a pagan holiday coopted by the Church to gain applause from the masses. Since them, Americans forgot. Or something.
England was where Christmas involved debauchery, drunkenness, games, gifts and such. We in the USA were fleeing from this foolishness. Sometime in the late 1800s, the mood switched. Perhaps we had come far enough away from the revolution to feel safe in celebrating what had for a hundred years or so been a non-event in the USA – the paganly selected date of 12/25.
Why do I dislike xmas so much? Hard to say. I suppose at base I believe in principles. I respect the Puritan viewpoint for its consistency. This dressing up in santa suits and yipping about jesus and buying lots of stuff and partying—offends my sensibilities. Just because I don’t believe something is true, doesn’t mean that other people’s beliefs don’t matter to me, and , well, I guess I fall ideologically on the Puritan side. I am annoyed by inappropriate merriment, hypocrisy and xmas.ParticipantIt was a crime in colonial puritan america,to celebrate xmas.
They are rolling over in their Graves at our utter commercialization of the Lord.
Participant[quote=moneymaker]Actually interest is not suppose to be charged according to God[/quote]
Every text or rule has a loophole.
It’s difficult to even comprehend trusting something more than wealth
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]Warning: the minas may be metaphorical. Jesus was not running a hedge fund.
Or was he?[/quote]
The hedge fund of souls
ParticipantI knew a security guard once at a bldg I worked at 20 years ago. Became friendly. Older guy. Had joined a super Jesus freak church. Sold his house, gave them all his money, quit a good job, was with then for a few,years. Dissolved and left him penniless in a strange and different us state.
Became a security guard.
Did not appear to have regrets.
ParticipantMoney is what we believe will save us.
It calms our nerves.
Makes us feel protected and safe.
Allays our fears for ourselves and our children.
Makes our life safe and comfortable.
It is our hope and,our salvation.
Only if you just get way way too much of it, you need to form a foundation to give it all away
Primarily for tax purposes.
There is nothing else that really, when you judge actions not words, matters to anyone here more than money.
Money is what we attend to, where our hearts are, what we know is meaningful.
It sets our place in this,world and keeps us bound to society in a sacred trust insured by the FDIC, our savior..
There is no thing else. There is no G-d we trust more than it. There is no option in our world. Only fools and madmen truly believe in anything else.
ParticipantWarning: the minas may be metaphorical. Jesus was not running a hedge fund.
Or was he?
ParticipantThen again, the Lord appears to hate super low interest rates:
The Parable of the Ten Minas
11 While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12 He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a] ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’14 “But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’
15 “He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.
16 “The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’
17 “‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’
18 “The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’
19 “His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’
20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’
22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’
24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’
25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’
26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away. 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”
Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic]Yes and in the parable he already had the wheat. He’s just scheming on how to save it. Basically setting up storage accounts for his wealth.
It is the preservation of what he has that is being denounced, and that is undisputed batshit crazy. Right?[/quote]
He already had the wheat, he had a SURPLUS of wheat, he had barns for plenty of wheat but was going to tear them down and make bigger barns for more wheat. He was going to tie his human capital and future years, potentially up to his death, in this mass of wheat instead of riding his carbon fiber bike up the coast 101 to San Clemente and back . That’s bat shit crazy.[/quote]
But realistically, how much wheat can one realistically comfortably retire on?
Wheat trust funds for the kids.
Etc.
It’s a lot of bread to relax, man.
Participant[quote=Blogstar]Really though, we know what he should have done, filled the barns he had , sold the rest of the wheat and bought some seed potatoes with the money and planted them. Diversify , fuck the bike ride.[/quote]
Dumping all that wheat on the local market probably would have brought in a fraction of the talents of gold it was worth. It’s safe to say he knew the local market pretty well as a successful farmer. He probably knew the best move was bigger barns. Why is G-d opposed to big barns, 401k funds, and general wealth preservation?
ParticipantYes and in the parable he already had the wheat. He’s just scheming on how to save it. Basically setting up storage accounts for his wealth.
It is the preservation of what he has that is being denounced, and that is undisputed batshit crazy. Right?
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