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[quote=sdrealtor]
2. I dont know I became labeled a bull. [/quote]

Because we can read your comments.

[quote=sdrealtor] 3. I dont not have RealtyTrac account. I can go on for free and with my MLS tools and local knowledge, I can identify the properties I referenced. RealtyTrac is a POS.[/quote]

If you do not have an account how did you get the street addresses of the properties in your “I can identify the properties I referenced”? example?

Without an account RT only gives street name, city and zip. Without an account you don’t have an exact address, parcel number or anything else needed to make a positive ID. Do you think maybe the ones listed in RT may be other than the ones in your “on the street” analysis?

The houses you reference could easily be different distressed properties and the ones in your reference might actually not be on RT at all. At the very least you can’t say without a doubt that your examples may be the “crap” and “POS”.

Maybe someone actaully standing up to your outragious statements lead you to do the unthinkable and provide false examples? Oohhhh a realtor lying about RE, what has the world come to? For shame 🙂 I wonder how long it will take you to think of a response that explains away your deception.

Still ignoring RealQuest’s numbers I see.

[quote=sdrealtor] 6. RT 66 the problem with what you do is what a similar exiled poster used to do around here.
[/quote]

“similar exiled poster” What are you talking about “similar exiled”? Dude you flatter yourself, I bet there are just as many who’d like to see your “making a killing” ass exiled. I’ve had people threaten that BS on this forum before when they get backed into a corner and exposed, yet I’m still here 🙂

You talk out of both sides of your mouth and now have the cajones to claim a realtor is the best source of information. That’s outrageous. I guess a used car salesman is the best source of info on buying cars?

Data and rationale = wrong, realtors best source of info (near zero training, experience, knowledge required), man you are a piece of work.

[Rt.66]

[quote=sdrealtor]
2. I dont know I became labeled a bull. [/quote]

Because we can read your comments.

[quote=sdrealtor] 3. I dont not have RealtyTrac account. I can go on for free and with my MLS tools and local knowledge, I can identify the properties I referenced. RealtyTrac is a POS.[/quote]

If you do not have an account how did you get the street addresses of the properties in your “I can identify the properties I referenced”? example?

Without an account RT only gives street name, city and zip. Without an account you don’t have an exact address, parcel number or anything else needed to make a positive ID. Do you think maybe the ones listed in RT may be other than the ones in your “on the street” analysis?

The houses you reference could easily be different distressed properties and the ones in your reference might actually not be on RT at all. At the very least you can’t say without a doubt that your examples may be the “crap” and “POS”.

Maybe someone actaully standing up to your outragious statements lead you to do the unthinkable and provide false examples? Oohhhh a realtor lying about RE, what has the world come to? For shame 🙂 I wonder how long it will take you to think of a response that explains away your deception.

Still ignoring RealQuest’s numbers I see.

[quote=sdrealtor] 6. RT 66 the problem with what you do is what a similar exiled poster used to do around here.
[/quote]

“similar exiled poster” What are you talking about “similar exiled”? Dude you flatter yourself, I bet there are just as many who’d like to see your “making a killing” ass exiled. I’ve had people threaten that BS on this forum before when they get backed into a corner and exposed, yet I’m still here 🙂

You talk out of both sides of your mouth and now have the cajones to claim a realtor is the best source of information. That’s outrageous. I guess a used car salesman is the best source of info on buying cars?

Data and rationale = wrong, realtors best source of info (near zero training, experience, knowledge required), man you are a piece of work.

[Rt.66]

[quote=sdrealtor]
2. I dont know I became labeled a bull. [/quote]

Because we can read your comments.

[quote=sdrealtor] 3. I dont not have RealtyTrac account. I can go on for free and with my MLS tools and local knowledge, I can identify the properties I referenced. RealtyTrac is a POS.[/quote]

If you do not have an account how did you get the street addresses of the properties in your “I can identify the properties I referenced”? example?

Without an account RT only gives street name, city and zip. Without an account you don’t have an exact address, parcel number or anything else needed to make a positive ID. Do you think maybe the ones listed in RT may be other than the ones in your “on the street” analysis?

The houses you reference could easily be different distressed properties and the ones in your reference might actually not be on RT at all. At the very least you can’t say without a doubt that your examples may be the “crap” and “POS”.

Maybe someone actaully standing up to your outragious statements lead you to do the unthinkable and provide false examples? Oohhhh a realtor lying about RE, what has the world come to? For shame 🙂 I wonder how long it will take you to think of a response that explains away your deception.

Still ignoring RealQuest’s numbers I see.

[quote=sdrealtor] 6. RT 66 the problem with what you do is what a similar exiled poster used to do around here.
[/quote]

“similar exiled poster” What are you talking about “similar exiled”? Dude you flatter yourself, I bet there are just as many who’d like to see your “making a killing” ass exiled. I’ve had people threaten that BS on this forum before when they get backed into a corner and exposed, yet I’m still here 🙂

You talk out of both sides of your mouth and now have the cajones to claim a realtor is the best source of information. That’s outrageous. I guess a used car salesman is the best source of info on buying cars?

Data and rationale = wrong, realtors best source of info (near zero training, experience, knowledge required), man you are a piece of work.

[Rt.66]

[quote=sdrealtor]
2. I dont know I became labeled a bull. [/quote]

Because we can read your comments.

[quote=sdrealtor] 3. I dont not have RealtyTrac account. I can go on for free and with my MLS tools and local knowledge, I can identify the properties I referenced. RealtyTrac is a POS.[/quote]

If you do not have an account how did you get the street addresses of the properties in your “I can identify the properties I referenced”? example?

Without an account RT only gives street name, city and zip. Without an account you don’t have an exact address, parcel number or anything else needed to make a positive ID. Do you think maybe the ones listed in RT may be other than the ones in your “on the street” analysis?

The houses you reference could easily be different distressed properties and the ones in your reference might actually not be on RT at all. At the very least you can’t say without a doubt that your examples may be the “crap” and “POS”.

Maybe someone actaully standing up to your outragious statements lead you to do the unthinkable and provide false examples? Oohhhh a realtor lying about RE, what has the world come to? For shame 🙂 I wonder how long it will take you to think of a response that explains away your deception.

Still ignoring RealQuest’s numbers I see.

[quote=sdrealtor] 6. RT 66 the problem with what you do is what a similar exiled poster used to do around here.
[/quote]

“similar exiled poster” What are you talking about “similar exiled”? Dude you flatter yourself, I bet there are just as many who’d like to see your “making a killing” ass exiled. I’ve had people threaten that BS on this forum before when they get backed into a corner and exposed, yet I’m still here 🙂

You talk out of both sides of your mouth and now have the cajones to claim a realtor is the best source of information. That’s outrageous. I guess a used car salesman is the best source of info on buying cars?

Data and rationale = wrong, realtors best source of info (near zero training, experience, knowledge required), man you are a piece of work.

[Rt.66]

[quote=sdrealtor]
2. I dont know I became labeled a bull. [/quote]

Because we can read your comments.

[quote=sdrealtor] 3. I dont not have RealtyTrac account. I can go on for free and with my MLS tools and local knowledge, I can identify the properties I referenced. RealtyTrac is a POS.[/quote]

If you do not have an account how did you get the street addresses of the properties in your “I can identify the properties I referenced”? example?

Without an account RT only gives street name, city and zip. Without an account you don’t have an exact address, parcel number or anything else needed to make a positive ID. Do you think maybe the ones listed in RT may be other than the ones in your “on the street” analysis?

The houses you reference could easily be different distressed properties and the ones in your reference might actually not be on RT at all. At the very least you can’t say without a doubt that your examples may be the “crap” and “POS”.

Maybe someone actaully standing up to your outragious statements lead you to do the unthinkable and provide false examples? Oohhhh a realtor lying about RE, what has the world come to? For shame 🙂 I wonder how long it will take you to think of a response that explains away your deception.

Still ignoring RealQuest’s numbers I see.

[quote=sdrealtor] 6. RT 66 the problem with what you do is what a similar exiled poster used to do around here.
[/quote]

“similar exiled poster” What are you talking about “similar exiled”? Dude you flatter yourself, I bet there are just as many who’d like to see your “making a killing” ass exiled. I’ve had people threaten that BS on this forum before when they get backed into a corner and exposed, yet I’m still here 🙂

You talk out of both sides of your mouth and now have the cajones to claim a realtor is the best source of information. That’s outrageous. I guess a used car salesman is the best source of info on buying cars?

Data and rationale = wrong, realtors best source of info (near zero training, experience, knowledge required), man you are a piece of work.

[Rt.66]

LuckyInOC Thanks for posting those numbers!

Numbers like those are what guide my opinion on the market, not a fanatical bear outlook, as some would have the forum believe. It’s nice to see data. Some on this forum seem to think data and facts indicate a losing argument (I disagree) others like to ignore and pooh-pooh the data and fail to provide any of their own, just opinions (which are like something else we all have).

Isn’t it funny, the arguments. The data screams “watch out below” the numbers on every level are too ugly to comprehend so the Bulls gotta pull out “data and rationale = wrong, anyone not buying my ”bottom is in” call is an fanatic irrational Uber-Bear, and I know someone who did/is doing this or that, one of my neighbors blah blah, blah.

Can’t wait to see how they discount your data.

For the RealtyTrac haters I offered up a new data source called RealQuest : (I’m not married to RealtyTrac (that’s dumb), just data.)

• Used by 9 of the top 10 lending institutions
• Updated daily
• County records direct from the source

http://www.realquestinvestor.com/rq/default.aspx#

What sort of response do we get:

1) Thanks for new data source…… debate on actual data ensues.

Or……

2) Just ignore it and keep beating the worn out drum my speculation or “expert” (TIC) opinion, or what I’m seeing on the streets, I’m making a killing, etc. outweighs silly data..

TG, I never brought Temecula data into this. I’ve been posting on SD; your example is Temecula and is another argument. Only the most undesirable areas of SD have seen TV kind of drops. Do you believe the realtor and agree there will be no next leg down for SD?

Hey SDrealtor why do you have a RealtyTrac account if you don’t trust their numbers?

[Rt.66]

LuckyInOC Thanks for posting those numbers!

Numbers like those are what guide my opinion on the market, not a fanatical bear outlook, as some would have the forum believe. It’s nice to see data. Some on this forum seem to think data and facts indicate a losing argument (I disagree) others like to ignore and pooh-pooh the data and fail to provide any of their own, just opinions (which are like something else we all have).

Isn’t it funny, the arguments. The data screams “watch out below” the numbers on every level are too ugly to comprehend so the Bulls gotta pull out “data and rationale = wrong, anyone not buying my ”bottom is in” call is an fanatic irrational Uber-Bear, and I know someone who did/is doing this or that, one of my neighbors blah blah, blah.

Can’t wait to see how they discount your data.

For the RealtyTrac haters I offered up a new data source called RealQuest : (I’m not married to RealtyTrac (that’s dumb), just data.)

• Used by 9 of the top 10 lending institutions
• Updated daily
• County records direct from the source

http://www.realquestinvestor.com/rq/default.aspx#

What sort of response do we get:

1) Thanks for new data source…… debate on actual data ensues.

Or……

2) Just ignore it and keep beating the worn out drum my speculation or “expert” (TIC) opinion, or what I’m seeing on the streets, I’m making a killing, etc. outweighs silly data..

TG, I never brought Temecula data into this. I’ve been posting on SD; your example is Temecula and is another argument. Only the most undesirable areas of SD have seen TV kind of drops. Do you believe the realtor and agree there will be no next leg down for SD?

Hey SDrealtor why do you have a RealtyTrac account if you don’t trust their numbers?

[Rt.66]

LuckyInOC Thanks for posting those numbers!

Numbers like those are what guide my opinion on the market, not a fanatical bear outlook, as some would have the forum believe. It’s nice to see data. Some on this forum seem to think data and facts indicate a losing argument (I disagree) others like to ignore and pooh-pooh the data and fail to provide any of their own, just opinions (which are like something else we all have).

Isn’t it funny, the arguments. The data screams “watch out below” the numbers on every level are too ugly to comprehend so the Bulls gotta pull out “data and rationale = wrong, anyone not buying my ”bottom is in” call is an fanatic irrational Uber-Bear, and I know someone who did/is doing this or that, one of my neighbors blah blah, blah.

Can’t wait to see how they discount your data.

For the RealtyTrac haters I offered up a new data source called RealQuest : (I’m not married to RealtyTrac (that’s dumb), just data.)

• Used by 9 of the top 10 lending institutions
• Updated daily
• County records direct from the source

http://www.realquestinvestor.com/rq/default.aspx#

What sort of response do we get:

1) Thanks for new data source…… debate on actual data ensues.

Or……

2) Just ignore it and keep beating the worn out drum my speculation or “expert” (TIC) opinion, or what I’m seeing on the streets, I’m making a killing, etc. outweighs silly data..

TG, I never brought Temecula data into this. I’ve been posting on SD; your example is Temecula and is another argument. Only the most undesirable areas of SD have seen TV kind of drops. Do you believe the realtor and agree there will be no next leg down for SD?

Hey SDrealtor why do you have a RealtyTrac account if you don’t trust their numbers?

[Rt.66]

LuckyInOC Thanks for posting those numbers!

Numbers like those are what guide my opinion on the market, not a fanatical bear outlook, as some would have the forum believe. It’s nice to see data. Some on this forum seem to think data and facts indicate a losing argument (I disagree) others like to ignore and pooh-pooh the data and fail to provide any of their own, just opinions (which are like something else we all have).

Isn’t it funny, the arguments. The data screams “watch out below” the numbers on every level are too ugly to comprehend so the Bulls gotta pull out “data and rationale = wrong, anyone not buying my ”bottom is in” call is an fanatic irrational Uber-Bear, and I know someone who did/is doing this or that, one of my neighbors blah blah, blah.

Can’t wait to see how they discount your data.

For the RealtyTrac haters I offered up a new data source called RealQuest : (I’m not married to RealtyTrac (that’s dumb), just data.)

• Used by 9 of the top 10 lending institutions
• Updated daily
• County records direct from the source

http://www.realquestinvestor.com/rq/default.aspx#

What sort of response do we get:

1) Thanks for new data source…… debate on actual data ensues.

Or……

2) Just ignore it and keep beating the worn out drum my speculation or “expert” (TIC) opinion, or what I’m seeing on the streets, I’m making a killing, etc. outweighs silly data..

TG, I never brought Temecula data into this. I’ve been posting on SD; your example is Temecula and is another argument. Only the most undesirable areas of SD have seen TV kind of drops. Do you believe the realtor and agree there will be no next leg down for SD?

Hey SDrealtor why do you have a RealtyTrac account if you don’t trust their numbers?

[Rt.66]

LuckyInOC Thanks for posting those numbers!

Numbers like those are what guide my opinion on the market, not a fanatical bear outlook, as some would have the forum believe. It’s nice to see data. Some on this forum seem to think data and facts indicate a losing argument (I disagree) others like to ignore and pooh-pooh the data and fail to provide any of their own, just opinions (which are like something else we all have).

Isn’t it funny, the arguments. The data screams “watch out below” the numbers on every level are too ugly to comprehend so the Bulls gotta pull out “data and rationale = wrong, anyone not buying my ”bottom is in” call is an fanatic irrational Uber-Bear, and I know someone who did/is doing this or that, one of my neighbors blah blah, blah.

Can’t wait to see how they discount your data.

For the RealtyTrac haters I offered up a new data source called RealQuest : (I’m not married to RealtyTrac (that’s dumb), just data.)

• Used by 9 of the top 10 lending institutions
• Updated daily
• County records direct from the source

http://www.realquestinvestor.com/rq/default.aspx#

What sort of response do we get:

1) Thanks for new data source…… debate on actual data ensues.

Or……

2) Just ignore it and keep beating the worn out drum my speculation or “expert” (TIC) opinion, or what I’m seeing on the streets, I’m making a killing, etc. outweighs silly data..

TG, I never brought Temecula data into this. I’ve been posting on SD; your example is Temecula and is another argument. Only the most undesirable areas of SD have seen TV kind of drops. Do you believe the realtor and agree there will be no next leg down for SD?

Hey SDrealtor why do you have a RealtyTrac account if you don’t trust their numbers?

[Rt.66]

It’s a fact that none of us will dispute that housing values have fallen by $100s of thousands in SD.

Data sources are reporting that people in droves are discontinuing payment on those mortgages. Is this a shocking development? Should we be surprised and skeptical of data from different sources confirming this? This forum never fails to find someone willing to fight reality.

What sense does this debate make? This is what people do when they are $100ks underwater. Some here are arguing that the obvious and rational result is not happening and further that the sources supporting the obvious and rational result are wrong.

Everyday there are several articles documenting banks sitting on REOs, hiding inventory and doing all sorts of things you’d expect technically insolvent institutions to do when they would like to hide their insolvency.

Yet some debate that it’s actually happening or claim its happening but not to a disturbing degree. Rational thinking is that it makes sense that they are doing exactly what is being reported.

[Rt.66]

It’s a fact that none of us will dispute that housing values have fallen by $100s of thousands in SD.

Data sources are reporting that people in droves are discontinuing payment on those mortgages. Is this a shocking development? Should we be surprised and skeptical of data from different sources confirming this? This forum never fails to find someone willing to fight reality.

What sense does this debate make? This is what people do when they are $100ks underwater. Some here are arguing that the obvious and rational result is not happening and further that the sources supporting the obvious and rational result are wrong.

Everyday there are several articles documenting banks sitting on REOs, hiding inventory and doing all sorts of things you’d expect technically insolvent institutions to do when they would like to hide their insolvency.

Yet some debate that it’s actually happening or claim its happening but not to a disturbing degree. Rational thinking is that it makes sense that they are doing exactly what is being reported.

[Rt.66]

It’s a fact that none of us will dispute that housing values have fallen by $100s of thousands in SD.

Data sources are reporting that people in droves are discontinuing payment on those mortgages. Is this a shocking development? Should we be surprised and skeptical of data from different sources confirming this? This forum never fails to find someone willing to fight reality.

What sense does this debate make? This is what people do when they are $100ks underwater. Some here are arguing that the obvious and rational result is not happening and further that the sources supporting the obvious and rational result are wrong.

Everyday there are several articles documenting banks sitting on REOs, hiding inventory and doing all sorts of things you’d expect technically insolvent institutions to do when they would like to hide their insolvency.

Yet some debate that it’s actually happening or claim its happening but not to a disturbing degree. Rational thinking is that it makes sense that they are doing exactly what is being reported.

[Rt.66]

It’s a fact that none of us will dispute that housing values have fallen by $100s of thousands in SD.

Data sources are reporting that people in droves are discontinuing payment on those mortgages. Is this a shocking development? Should we be surprised and skeptical of data from different sources confirming this? This forum never fails to find someone willing to fight reality.

What sense does this debate make? This is what people do when they are $100ks underwater. Some here are arguing that the obvious and rational result is not happening and further that the sources supporting the obvious and rational result are wrong.

Everyday there are several articles documenting banks sitting on REOs, hiding inventory and doing all sorts of things you’d expect technically insolvent institutions to do when they would like to hide their insolvency.

Yet some debate that it’s actually happening or claim its happening but not to a disturbing degree. Rational thinking is that it makes sense that they are doing exactly what is being reported.

[Rt.66]

It’s a fact that none of us will dispute that housing values have fallen by $100s of thousands in SD.

Data sources are reporting that people in droves are discontinuing payment on those mortgages. Is this a shocking development? Should we be surprised and skeptical of data from different sources confirming this? This forum never fails to find someone willing to fight reality.

What sense does this debate make? This is what people do when they are $100ks underwater. Some here are arguing that the obvious and rational result is not happening and further that the sources supporting the obvious and rational result are wrong.

Everyday there are several articles documenting banks sitting on REOs, hiding inventory and doing all sorts of things you’d expect technically insolvent institutions to do when they would like to hide their insolvency.

Yet some debate that it’s actually happening or claim its happening but not to a disturbing degree. Rational thinking is that it makes sense that they are doing exactly what is being reported.

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