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Participant[quote=justme][quote=Ren]FWIW, a modern 500hp 911 Turbo has lower emissions than a 60hp, 46mpg 1986 Honda Civic. That’s what I call progress.[/quote]
Ren, I think you are missing the point. First, the only way “emissions” can be lower for the Porsche than the Honda is if you define “emissions” as not including CO2. The Porsche emits more CO2 by a factor of 5 or maybe even more.
Second, it is not just the “emissions” that is the problem (even if you ignore CO2), but the CONSUMPTION of the car.[/quote]
“That’s what I call progress” was a poor attempt at car enthusiast humor, but I do consider it good progress. I’m aware that a 500hp car driven at the limit will consume more than a 60hp Civic.
To clarify, I was referring to dangerous emissions, which are lower in modern cars. Carbon dioxide and water (also an exhaust emission) aren’t dangerous to people or the environment.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=Ren]FWIW, a modern 500hp 911 Turbo has lower emissions than a 60hp, 46mpg 1986 Honda Civic. That’s what I call progress.[/quote]
Ren, I think you are missing the point. First, the only way “emissions” can be lower for the Porsche than the Honda is if you define “emissions” as not including CO2. The Porsche emits more CO2 by a factor of 5 or maybe even more.
Second, it is not just the “emissions” that is the problem (even if you ignore CO2), but the CONSUMPTION of the car.[/quote]
“That’s what I call progress” was a poor attempt at car enthusiast humor, but I do consider it good progress. I’m aware that a 500hp car driven at the limit will consume more than a 60hp Civic.
To clarify, I was referring to dangerous emissions, which are lower in modern cars. Carbon dioxide and water (also an exhaust emission) aren’t dangerous to people or the environment.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=Ren]FWIW, a modern 500hp 911 Turbo has lower emissions than a 60hp, 46mpg 1986 Honda Civic. That’s what I call progress.[/quote]
Ren, I think you are missing the point. First, the only way “emissions” can be lower for the Porsche than the Honda is if you define “emissions” as not including CO2. The Porsche emits more CO2 by a factor of 5 or maybe even more.
Second, it is not just the “emissions” that is the problem (even if you ignore CO2), but the CONSUMPTION of the car.[/quote]
“That’s what I call progress” was a poor attempt at car enthusiast humor, but I do consider it good progress. I’m aware that a 500hp car driven at the limit will consume more than a 60hp Civic.
To clarify, I was referring to dangerous emissions, which are lower in modern cars. Carbon dioxide and water (also an exhaust emission) aren’t dangerous to people or the environment.
Participant[quote=justme][quote=Ren]FWIW, a modern 500hp 911 Turbo has lower emissions than a 60hp, 46mpg 1986 Honda Civic. That’s what I call progress.[/quote]
Ren, I think you are missing the point. First, the only way “emissions” can be lower for the Porsche than the Honda is if you define “emissions” as not including CO2. The Porsche emits more CO2 by a factor of 5 or maybe even more.
Second, it is not just the “emissions” that is the problem (even if you ignore CO2), but the CONSUMPTION of the car.[/quote]
“That’s what I call progress” was a poor attempt at car enthusiast humor, but I do consider it good progress. I’m aware that a 500hp car driven at the limit will consume more than a 60hp Civic.
To clarify, I was referring to dangerous emissions, which are lower in modern cars. Carbon dioxide and water (also an exhaust emission) aren’t dangerous to people or the environment.
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ParticipantI’d be happy to, but it may be some time in the future. We know where we want to end up, we’re just not sure of the timing.
ParticipantI’d be happy to, but it may be some time in the future. We know where we want to end up, we’re just not sure of the timing.
ParticipantI’d be happy to, but it may be some time in the future. We know where we want to end up, we’re just not sure of the timing.
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