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peterb
ParticipantFletch, when has the govt ever really done anyting in the markets that helped the average guy? This bail out helps the banks from collapse and will hopefully prevent full scale panic. (Jury still out on that one.)
We are seeing huge swings in the markets. This is called “unstable”. Not a place to be with a hightly illiquid asset that has been decreasing in value for some time now.
If the govt is successful with this attempt, it would be the first time in history that a govt was able to halt a bursting credit bubble.No one can predict the future, but history and statistics are on your side.
peterb
ParticipantFletch, when has the govt ever really done anyting in the markets that helped the average guy? This bail out helps the banks from collapse and will hopefully prevent full scale panic. (Jury still out on that one.)
We are seeing huge swings in the markets. This is called “unstable”. Not a place to be with a hightly illiquid asset that has been decreasing in value for some time now.
If the govt is successful with this attempt, it would be the first time in history that a govt was able to halt a bursting credit bubble.No one can predict the future, but history and statistics are on your side.
peterb
ParticipantFletch, when has the govt ever really done anyting in the markets that helped the average guy? This bail out helps the banks from collapse and will hopefully prevent full scale panic. (Jury still out on that one.)
We are seeing huge swings in the markets. This is called “unstable”. Not a place to be with a hightly illiquid asset that has been decreasing in value for some time now.
If the govt is successful with this attempt, it would be the first time in history that a govt was able to halt a bursting credit bubble.No one can predict the future, but history and statistics are on your side.
peterb
ParticipantThe markets are swinging violently these days. That’s a good way to get trampled. I think the storm is really going to hit during earnings season coming up here in Oct and Nov. When a storm’s this big and unknown, best to stay in the safe harbor and wait it out.
peterb
ParticipantThe markets are swinging violently these days. That’s a good way to get trampled. I think the storm is really going to hit during earnings season coming up here in Oct and Nov. When a storm’s this big and unknown, best to stay in the safe harbor and wait it out.
peterb
ParticipantThe markets are swinging violently these days. That’s a good way to get trampled. I think the storm is really going to hit during earnings season coming up here in Oct and Nov. When a storm’s this big and unknown, best to stay in the safe harbor and wait it out.
peterb
ParticipantThe markets are swinging violently these days. That’s a good way to get trampled. I think the storm is really going to hit during earnings season coming up here in Oct and Nov. When a storm’s this big and unknown, best to stay in the safe harbor and wait it out.
peterb
ParticipantThe markets are swinging violently these days. That’s a good way to get trampled. I think the storm is really going to hit during earnings season coming up here in Oct and Nov. When a storm’s this big and unknown, best to stay in the safe harbor and wait it out.
peterb
ParticipantI dont see how prices can be maintianed without a 30 year fixed rate of about 2% or 3%. Will the govt lend at this rate? Will other countries buy US treasuries if the govt does this? If the US govt did this, the US$ would lose 50% of it’s value in less than a year. Maybe more. But I really dont think the credit market would allow this in the first place. The Asian countries are moving away from treasuries already and so the future for the govt to mount greater,gigantic debt looks very questionable.
As unemployment increases, this becomes less possible as well just based on fundementals of income.
The bottom line is that wages have not risen in 10 years and prices have at least doubled. Until equilibrium is somehow returned, prices must come down.peterb
ParticipantI dont see how prices can be maintianed without a 30 year fixed rate of about 2% or 3%. Will the govt lend at this rate? Will other countries buy US treasuries if the govt does this? If the US govt did this, the US$ would lose 50% of it’s value in less than a year. Maybe more. But I really dont think the credit market would allow this in the first place. The Asian countries are moving away from treasuries already and so the future for the govt to mount greater,gigantic debt looks very questionable.
As unemployment increases, this becomes less possible as well just based on fundementals of income.
The bottom line is that wages have not risen in 10 years and prices have at least doubled. Until equilibrium is somehow returned, prices must come down.peterb
ParticipantI dont see how prices can be maintianed without a 30 year fixed rate of about 2% or 3%. Will the govt lend at this rate? Will other countries buy US treasuries if the govt does this? If the US govt did this, the US$ would lose 50% of it’s value in less than a year. Maybe more. But I really dont think the credit market would allow this in the first place. The Asian countries are moving away from treasuries already and so the future for the govt to mount greater,gigantic debt looks very questionable.
As unemployment increases, this becomes less possible as well just based on fundementals of income.
The bottom line is that wages have not risen in 10 years and prices have at least doubled. Until equilibrium is somehow returned, prices must come down.peterb
ParticipantI dont see how prices can be maintianed without a 30 year fixed rate of about 2% or 3%. Will the govt lend at this rate? Will other countries buy US treasuries if the govt does this? If the US govt did this, the US$ would lose 50% of it’s value in less than a year. Maybe more. But I really dont think the credit market would allow this in the first place. The Asian countries are moving away from treasuries already and so the future for the govt to mount greater,gigantic debt looks very questionable.
As unemployment increases, this becomes less possible as well just based on fundementals of income.
The bottom line is that wages have not risen in 10 years and prices have at least doubled. Until equilibrium is somehow returned, prices must come down.peterb
ParticipantI dont see how prices can be maintianed without a 30 year fixed rate of about 2% or 3%. Will the govt lend at this rate? Will other countries buy US treasuries if the govt does this? If the US govt did this, the US$ would lose 50% of it’s value in less than a year. Maybe more. But I really dont think the credit market would allow this in the first place. The Asian countries are moving away from treasuries already and so the future for the govt to mount greater,gigantic debt looks very questionable.
As unemployment increases, this becomes less possible as well just based on fundementals of income.
The bottom line is that wages have not risen in 10 years and prices have at least doubled. Until equilibrium is somehow returned, prices must come down.peterb
ParticipantI once read an article written by a guy that worked on the Golden Gate Bridge in 1935. This was one of many WPA projects the Fed govt had started to create jobs. He was quick to point out that there was a big camp of workers waiting for someone on the GG Bridge project to die so that one from the camp could take his place.
His point was that WPA was at best a band-aid and that there were still tons of people unemployed. Then he points out that by 1940 unemployment was almost zero due to war related industry for feeding the European theater. Then the US entered and that was that for the Depression.
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