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September 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276934September 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276952
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ParticipantMSM is not to be trusted at all. Look at their track record. Just a series of lies.
September 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276986peterb
ParticipantMSM is not to be trusted at all. Look at their track record. Just a series of lies.
September 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276999peterb
ParticipantMSM is not to be trusted at all. Look at their track record. Just a series of lies.
September 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276643peterb
ParticipantWith $700B failout it will only be a 3500 drop. Whoopie! October could be one of the worst months on record for the DOW, if not the worst ever.
September 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276899peterb
ParticipantWith $700B failout it will only be a 3500 drop. Whoopie! October could be one of the worst months on record for the DOW, if not the worst ever.
September 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276917peterb
ParticipantWith $700B failout it will only be a 3500 drop. Whoopie! October could be one of the worst months on record for the DOW, if not the worst ever.
September 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276951peterb
ParticipantWith $700B failout it will only be a 3500 drop. Whoopie! October could be one of the worst months on record for the DOW, if not the worst ever.
September 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276964peterb
ParticipantWith $700B failout it will only be a 3500 drop. Whoopie! October could be one of the worst months on record for the DOW, if not the worst ever.
September 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276628peterb
ParticipantI’ve never seen anything like this in my 50 years on this planet. I hear a lot people talking about buying a house right now because it’s PITI costs are equal to rental costs, or it’s down 40% from it’s peak, etc…. All these ASSUMPTIONs about this market are that it will be static are dangerous at this time, IMO. This aint your 1990 recession. The odds of job loss in the next 2 years should be carefully considered by everyone. And that rents could decrease as well. The odds of a true 0% CPI in the next 6 months are now very good due to the huge commodities price drop in the prior 6 months.
Stay liquid and lower expenses to the bare minimum. I dont even know that debt is such a big deal since one could not pay it off and all that happens is that you lost your credit rating. Oh well, how’s that going to matter when there’s no money available anyway or your unemployed. If I had a HELOC, I’d think about draining out the cash and then wait to see how things go. At least you’d have the money if things really went sour. Credits going away. Might as well get what you can if things look really bad in the near future.
I know this sounds pretty tin-foil-hat in nature. But if you look at the magnitude of the problem, I dont see how payback will not be a beotch for the immense credit abuse of the last 10 years or more.
September 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276884peterb
ParticipantI’ve never seen anything like this in my 50 years on this planet. I hear a lot people talking about buying a house right now because it’s PITI costs are equal to rental costs, or it’s down 40% from it’s peak, etc…. All these ASSUMPTIONs about this market are that it will be static are dangerous at this time, IMO. This aint your 1990 recession. The odds of job loss in the next 2 years should be carefully considered by everyone. And that rents could decrease as well. The odds of a true 0% CPI in the next 6 months are now very good due to the huge commodities price drop in the prior 6 months.
Stay liquid and lower expenses to the bare minimum. I dont even know that debt is such a big deal since one could not pay it off and all that happens is that you lost your credit rating. Oh well, how’s that going to matter when there’s no money available anyway or your unemployed. If I had a HELOC, I’d think about draining out the cash and then wait to see how things go. At least you’d have the money if things really went sour. Credits going away. Might as well get what you can if things look really bad in the near future.
I know this sounds pretty tin-foil-hat in nature. But if you look at the magnitude of the problem, I dont see how payback will not be a beotch for the immense credit abuse of the last 10 years or more.
September 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276902peterb
ParticipantI’ve never seen anything like this in my 50 years on this planet. I hear a lot people talking about buying a house right now because it’s PITI costs are equal to rental costs, or it’s down 40% from it’s peak, etc…. All these ASSUMPTIONs about this market are that it will be static are dangerous at this time, IMO. This aint your 1990 recession. The odds of job loss in the next 2 years should be carefully considered by everyone. And that rents could decrease as well. The odds of a true 0% CPI in the next 6 months are now very good due to the huge commodities price drop in the prior 6 months.
Stay liquid and lower expenses to the bare minimum. I dont even know that debt is such a big deal since one could not pay it off and all that happens is that you lost your credit rating. Oh well, how’s that going to matter when there’s no money available anyway or your unemployed. If I had a HELOC, I’d think about draining out the cash and then wait to see how things go. At least you’d have the money if things really went sour. Credits going away. Might as well get what you can if things look really bad in the near future.
I know this sounds pretty tin-foil-hat in nature. But if you look at the magnitude of the problem, I dont see how payback will not be a beotch for the immense credit abuse of the last 10 years or more.
September 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276936peterb
ParticipantI’ve never seen anything like this in my 50 years on this planet. I hear a lot people talking about buying a house right now because it’s PITI costs are equal to rental costs, or it’s down 40% from it’s peak, etc…. All these ASSUMPTIONs about this market are that it will be static are dangerous at this time, IMO. This aint your 1990 recession. The odds of job loss in the next 2 years should be carefully considered by everyone. And that rents could decrease as well. The odds of a true 0% CPI in the next 6 months are now very good due to the huge commodities price drop in the prior 6 months.
Stay liquid and lower expenses to the bare minimum. I dont even know that debt is such a big deal since one could not pay it off and all that happens is that you lost your credit rating. Oh well, how’s that going to matter when there’s no money available anyway or your unemployed. If I had a HELOC, I’d think about draining out the cash and then wait to see how things go. At least you’d have the money if things really went sour. Credits going away. Might as well get what you can if things look really bad in the near future.
I know this sounds pretty tin-foil-hat in nature. But if you look at the magnitude of the problem, I dont see how payback will not be a beotch for the immense credit abuse of the last 10 years or more.
September 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276949peterb
ParticipantI’ve never seen anything like this in my 50 years on this planet. I hear a lot people talking about buying a house right now because it’s PITI costs are equal to rental costs, or it’s down 40% from it’s peak, etc…. All these ASSUMPTIONs about this market are that it will be static are dangerous at this time, IMO. This aint your 1990 recession. The odds of job loss in the next 2 years should be carefully considered by everyone. And that rents could decrease as well. The odds of a true 0% CPI in the next 6 months are now very good due to the huge commodities price drop in the prior 6 months.
Stay liquid and lower expenses to the bare minimum. I dont even know that debt is such a big deal since one could not pay it off and all that happens is that you lost your credit rating. Oh well, how’s that going to matter when there’s no money available anyway or your unemployed. If I had a HELOC, I’d think about draining out the cash and then wait to see how things go. At least you’d have the money if things really went sour. Credits going away. Might as well get what you can if things look really bad in the near future.
I know this sounds pretty tin-foil-hat in nature. But if you look at the magnitude of the problem, I dont see how payback will not be a beotch for the immense credit abuse of the last 10 years or more.
September 27, 2008 at 8:35 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276478peterb
ParticipantI have been researching this issue quite a bit lately. The last 3 recession have seen gold go down in price for the duration of the recession. 1972, 1980 and 1990. So Roubini has recent history on his side for this call.
However, economic historians with strong forecasting skills like Bob Hoye and Marc Faber say that gold increases in price after a large credit bust like what we’re having right now. (This is a far more rare event than the more typical recessions we’ve seen in the past 30 years.) Both the ElliotWave and Candle Stick charts are extremely bullish for gold right now as well.I’ve put my bet on the historians for this one, eventhough I agree that Roubini has been pretty good lately as well. It looks like gold’s a good bet in a 5 year time frame regardless, but it’s always nice to time these things closer to the mark than not.
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