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ParticipantFollow the money and consider the source. If you look at Wall Street, it’s given a little more to Obama than McCain, but not too much. They’re not sure who’s gonna win either. Kinda like a hedge fund, only for politics. And it’s the same every election.
DiFi and her hubby are stupid rich. $500M or more last time I heard. Like she cares about us..hahhahahaha
peterb
ParticipantFollow the money and consider the source. If you look at Wall Street, it’s given a little more to Obama than McCain, but not too much. They’re not sure who’s gonna win either. Kinda like a hedge fund, only for politics. And it’s the same every election.
DiFi and her hubby are stupid rich. $500M or more last time I heard. Like she cares about us..hahhahahaha
peterb
ParticipantFollow the money and consider the source. If you look at Wall Street, it’s given a little more to Obama than McCain, but not too much. They’re not sure who’s gonna win either. Kinda like a hedge fund, only for politics. And it’s the same every election.
DiFi and her hubby are stupid rich. $500M or more last time I heard. Like she cares about us..hahhahahaha
September 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276928peterb
ParticipantUrbanRealtor, yes, I agree. The statistics dont lie and over the last 40 years more people have become wealthy in RE than any other asset or financial vehicle in the USA. It has certainly worked for me. Shelter is a pretty basic need.
However, in this economic situation we’re now in, I would caution anyone at this time to remain as liquid as possible. And the US$ may end-up surprising us all given the world economic conditions we’re now facing. Believe me, I’m not a big fan of the US$ for the last 9 years, but now most all currencies are looking fairly flawed. Which is why I’m becoming a gold bug of sorts lately. It’s real hard for central banks to screw with gold. And history has shown that central banks can get really stupid with their currency when they are scared….like now. It’s important to remember that most paper money is “currency” and not a store of value since it’s not tied to anything very tangible.
As far as having cash on hand…seems like cash is almost not used in our society much anymore. What with credit card, debit/ATM cards, check and wire payments, I almost dont need to have a greenback on me to get anything I want these days. It’s all a digital transfer of some kind. Most banks dont even have more than $10K or $20K on any given day. So if money networks broke down, yes, having cash would count for a lot. Otherwise, we’re a wired, digital world nowadays. If you’re alluding to govt control…if they rationed our access to our own money, welcome to the USSR of USA. All bets are off at that point. Private property right are the cornerstone of free enterprise and libery in general. Take away my access to my money and I’m leaving your country.(Yet another reason to have some of the yellow metal on hand.)But none of these thoughts are my own. I got this from researching the subject lately. It occured to me a few months ago that this beast is different and demands new respect. So I checked into forecasters by going back over their old records and predictions. Bob Hoye and Marc Faber were two that seemed to really stand out in their accuracy and timing. Of course, they’re both old enough to have seen a lot, but they are both good students of economic history. Steven Keen in Australia seems pretty sharp as well. Check into these guys and see what you think.
No one can predict the future 100%, but I think the one most predictable variable through out the history of markets is human behavior. I think Mark Twain said,”Although history may not repeat itself exactly,it sure does seem to rhyme.”
September 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #277185peterb
ParticipantUrbanRealtor, yes, I agree. The statistics dont lie and over the last 40 years more people have become wealthy in RE than any other asset or financial vehicle in the USA. It has certainly worked for me. Shelter is a pretty basic need.
However, in this economic situation we’re now in, I would caution anyone at this time to remain as liquid as possible. And the US$ may end-up surprising us all given the world economic conditions we’re now facing. Believe me, I’m not a big fan of the US$ for the last 9 years, but now most all currencies are looking fairly flawed. Which is why I’m becoming a gold bug of sorts lately. It’s real hard for central banks to screw with gold. And history has shown that central banks can get really stupid with their currency when they are scared….like now. It’s important to remember that most paper money is “currency” and not a store of value since it’s not tied to anything very tangible.
As far as having cash on hand…seems like cash is almost not used in our society much anymore. What with credit card, debit/ATM cards, check and wire payments, I almost dont need to have a greenback on me to get anything I want these days. It’s all a digital transfer of some kind. Most banks dont even have more than $10K or $20K on any given day. So if money networks broke down, yes, having cash would count for a lot. Otherwise, we’re a wired, digital world nowadays. If you’re alluding to govt control…if they rationed our access to our own money, welcome to the USSR of USA. All bets are off at that point. Private property right are the cornerstone of free enterprise and libery in general. Take away my access to my money and I’m leaving your country.(Yet another reason to have some of the yellow metal on hand.)But none of these thoughts are my own. I got this from researching the subject lately. It occured to me a few months ago that this beast is different and demands new respect. So I checked into forecasters by going back over their old records and predictions. Bob Hoye and Marc Faber were two that seemed to really stand out in their accuracy and timing. Of course, they’re both old enough to have seen a lot, but they are both good students of economic history. Steven Keen in Australia seems pretty sharp as well. Check into these guys and see what you think.
No one can predict the future 100%, but I think the one most predictable variable through out the history of markets is human behavior. I think Mark Twain said,”Although history may not repeat itself exactly,it sure does seem to rhyme.”
September 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #277203peterb
ParticipantUrbanRealtor, yes, I agree. The statistics dont lie and over the last 40 years more people have become wealthy in RE than any other asset or financial vehicle in the USA. It has certainly worked for me. Shelter is a pretty basic need.
However, in this economic situation we’re now in, I would caution anyone at this time to remain as liquid as possible. And the US$ may end-up surprising us all given the world economic conditions we’re now facing. Believe me, I’m not a big fan of the US$ for the last 9 years, but now most all currencies are looking fairly flawed. Which is why I’m becoming a gold bug of sorts lately. It’s real hard for central banks to screw with gold. And history has shown that central banks can get really stupid with their currency when they are scared….like now. It’s important to remember that most paper money is “currency” and not a store of value since it’s not tied to anything very tangible.
As far as having cash on hand…seems like cash is almost not used in our society much anymore. What with credit card, debit/ATM cards, check and wire payments, I almost dont need to have a greenback on me to get anything I want these days. It’s all a digital transfer of some kind. Most banks dont even have more than $10K or $20K on any given day. So if money networks broke down, yes, having cash would count for a lot. Otherwise, we’re a wired, digital world nowadays. If you’re alluding to govt control…if they rationed our access to our own money, welcome to the USSR of USA. All bets are off at that point. Private property right are the cornerstone of free enterprise and libery in general. Take away my access to my money and I’m leaving your country.(Yet another reason to have some of the yellow metal on hand.)But none of these thoughts are my own. I got this from researching the subject lately. It occured to me a few months ago that this beast is different and demands new respect. So I checked into forecasters by going back over their old records and predictions. Bob Hoye and Marc Faber were two that seemed to really stand out in their accuracy and timing. Of course, they’re both old enough to have seen a lot, but they are both good students of economic history. Steven Keen in Australia seems pretty sharp as well. Check into these guys and see what you think.
No one can predict the future 100%, but I think the one most predictable variable through out the history of markets is human behavior. I think Mark Twain said,”Although history may not repeat itself exactly,it sure does seem to rhyme.”
September 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #277237peterb
ParticipantUrbanRealtor, yes, I agree. The statistics dont lie and over the last 40 years more people have become wealthy in RE than any other asset or financial vehicle in the USA. It has certainly worked for me. Shelter is a pretty basic need.
However, in this economic situation we’re now in, I would caution anyone at this time to remain as liquid as possible. And the US$ may end-up surprising us all given the world economic conditions we’re now facing. Believe me, I’m not a big fan of the US$ for the last 9 years, but now most all currencies are looking fairly flawed. Which is why I’m becoming a gold bug of sorts lately. It’s real hard for central banks to screw with gold. And history has shown that central banks can get really stupid with their currency when they are scared….like now. It’s important to remember that most paper money is “currency” and not a store of value since it’s not tied to anything very tangible.
As far as having cash on hand…seems like cash is almost not used in our society much anymore. What with credit card, debit/ATM cards, check and wire payments, I almost dont need to have a greenback on me to get anything I want these days. It’s all a digital transfer of some kind. Most banks dont even have more than $10K or $20K on any given day. So if money networks broke down, yes, having cash would count for a lot. Otherwise, we’re a wired, digital world nowadays. If you’re alluding to govt control…if they rationed our access to our own money, welcome to the USSR of USA. All bets are off at that point. Private property right are the cornerstone of free enterprise and libery in general. Take away my access to my money and I’m leaving your country.(Yet another reason to have some of the yellow metal on hand.)But none of these thoughts are my own. I got this from researching the subject lately. It occured to me a few months ago that this beast is different and demands new respect. So I checked into forecasters by going back over their old records and predictions. Bob Hoye and Marc Faber were two that seemed to really stand out in their accuracy and timing. Of course, they’re both old enough to have seen a lot, but they are both good students of economic history. Steven Keen in Australia seems pretty sharp as well. Check into these guys and see what you think.
No one can predict the future 100%, but I think the one most predictable variable through out the history of markets is human behavior. I think Mark Twain said,”Although history may not repeat itself exactly,it sure does seem to rhyme.”
September 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #277249peterb
ParticipantUrbanRealtor, yes, I agree. The statistics dont lie and over the last 40 years more people have become wealthy in RE than any other asset or financial vehicle in the USA. It has certainly worked for me. Shelter is a pretty basic need.
However, in this economic situation we’re now in, I would caution anyone at this time to remain as liquid as possible. And the US$ may end-up surprising us all given the world economic conditions we’re now facing. Believe me, I’m not a big fan of the US$ for the last 9 years, but now most all currencies are looking fairly flawed. Which is why I’m becoming a gold bug of sorts lately. It’s real hard for central banks to screw with gold. And history has shown that central banks can get really stupid with their currency when they are scared….like now. It’s important to remember that most paper money is “currency” and not a store of value since it’s not tied to anything very tangible.
As far as having cash on hand…seems like cash is almost not used in our society much anymore. What with credit card, debit/ATM cards, check and wire payments, I almost dont need to have a greenback on me to get anything I want these days. It’s all a digital transfer of some kind. Most banks dont even have more than $10K or $20K on any given day. So if money networks broke down, yes, having cash would count for a lot. Otherwise, we’re a wired, digital world nowadays. If you’re alluding to govt control…if they rationed our access to our own money, welcome to the USSR of USA. All bets are off at that point. Private property right are the cornerstone of free enterprise and libery in general. Take away my access to my money and I’m leaving your country.(Yet another reason to have some of the yellow metal on hand.)But none of these thoughts are my own. I got this from researching the subject lately. It occured to me a few months ago that this beast is different and demands new respect. So I checked into forecasters by going back over their old records and predictions. Bob Hoye and Marc Faber were two that seemed to really stand out in their accuracy and timing. Of course, they’re both old enough to have seen a lot, but they are both good students of economic history. Steven Keen in Australia seems pretty sharp as well. Check into these guys and see what you think.
No one can predict the future 100%, but I think the one most predictable variable through out the history of markets is human behavior. I think Mark Twain said,”Although history may not repeat itself exactly,it sure does seem to rhyme.”
September 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276693peterb
ParticipantPrices move through the RE market slowly compared to most other markets. Foreclosures will turn into rentals as more investors purchase them and knife-catchers move into the market to own at these new and appealing prices. This should drive down rental prices as historically happens in most recessions and all depressions.
CA real unemployment is probably around 10% and rising. There already is deflation in most every asset class.
The only caveat on rentals I would have is that there may be more pressure on areas that are highly desirable for a while, as renting has more options than purchasing.
Forecasting involves identifying trends that are not reversing and following them to their conclusion or reversal. Just looking at today’s environment for rentals and not following out the progression of all these events is rather foolish and typically how we get into the problems like we are now seeing.
September 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276950peterb
ParticipantPrices move through the RE market slowly compared to most other markets. Foreclosures will turn into rentals as more investors purchase them and knife-catchers move into the market to own at these new and appealing prices. This should drive down rental prices as historically happens in most recessions and all depressions.
CA real unemployment is probably around 10% and rising. There already is deflation in most every asset class.
The only caveat on rentals I would have is that there may be more pressure on areas that are highly desirable for a while, as renting has more options than purchasing.
Forecasting involves identifying trends that are not reversing and following them to their conclusion or reversal. Just looking at today’s environment for rentals and not following out the progression of all these events is rather foolish and typically how we get into the problems like we are now seeing.
September 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #276967peterb
ParticipantPrices move through the RE market slowly compared to most other markets. Foreclosures will turn into rentals as more investors purchase them and knife-catchers move into the market to own at these new and appealing prices. This should drive down rental prices as historically happens in most recessions and all depressions.
CA real unemployment is probably around 10% and rising. There already is deflation in most every asset class.
The only caveat on rentals I would have is that there may be more pressure on areas that are highly desirable for a while, as renting has more options than purchasing.
Forecasting involves identifying trends that are not reversing and following them to their conclusion or reversal. Just looking at today’s environment for rentals and not following out the progression of all these events is rather foolish and typically how we get into the problems like we are now seeing.
September 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #277001peterb
ParticipantPrices move through the RE market slowly compared to most other markets. Foreclosures will turn into rentals as more investors purchase them and knife-catchers move into the market to own at these new and appealing prices. This should drive down rental prices as historically happens in most recessions and all depressions.
CA real unemployment is probably around 10% and rising. There already is deflation in most every asset class.
The only caveat on rentals I would have is that there may be more pressure on areas that are highly desirable for a while, as renting has more options than purchasing.
Forecasting involves identifying trends that are not reversing and following them to their conclusion or reversal. Just looking at today’s environment for rentals and not following out the progression of all these events is rather foolish and typically how we get into the problems like we are now seeing.
September 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM in reply to: Roubini on the current economic situation, with predictions #277014peterb
ParticipantPrices move through the RE market slowly compared to most other markets. Foreclosures will turn into rentals as more investors purchase them and knife-catchers move into the market to own at these new and appealing prices. This should drive down rental prices as historically happens in most recessions and all depressions.
CA real unemployment is probably around 10% and rising. There already is deflation in most every asset class.
The only caveat on rentals I would have is that there may be more pressure on areas that are highly desirable for a while, as renting has more options than purchasing.
Forecasting involves identifying trends that are not reversing and following them to their conclusion or reversal. Just looking at today’s environment for rentals and not following out the progression of all these events is rather foolish and typically how we get into the problems like we are now seeing.
September 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM in reply to: Bush administration sees 4000-point drop in DOW this week if no bailout #276678peterb
ParticipantMSM is not to be trusted at all. Look at their track record. Just a series of lies.
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