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ParticipantYou know how to use a sledge hammer?
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ParticipantYou know how to use a sledge hammer?
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ParticipantYou know how to use a sledge hammer?
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ParticipantYou know how to use a sledge hammer?
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ParticipantYou know how to use a sledge hammer?
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Participant[quote=jstoesz]for the record I love NPR. Especially the This American Life and Radio Lab and planet money…programs. You all must check it out. Especially on your 6 hour drives to the mountains (maybe that is just my former self talking). But why in Gods name is my tax money going to pay for it? To be honest, I don’t even mind the lefties…There is some damn fine programming. Oh and their music website is absolutely amazing![/quote]
It’s called establishing culture.
Sure NPR could go commercial, and next thing you know it’s 18 minutes of ads an hour.
why do we spend tax money on parks, libraries and fountains?
Look, where my tax money shouldn’t go is to wall street. I have no problem with it going to fix the things I need.
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Participant[quote=jstoesz]for the record I love NPR. Especially the This American Life and Radio Lab and planet money…programs. You all must check it out. Especially on your 6 hour drives to the mountains (maybe that is just my former self talking). But why in Gods name is my tax money going to pay for it? To be honest, I don’t even mind the lefties…There is some damn fine programming. Oh and their music website is absolutely amazing![/quote]
It’s called establishing culture.
Sure NPR could go commercial, and next thing you know it’s 18 minutes of ads an hour.
why do we spend tax money on parks, libraries and fountains?
Look, where my tax money shouldn’t go is to wall street. I have no problem with it going to fix the things I need.
patb
Participant[quote=jstoesz]for the record I love NPR. Especially the This American Life and Radio Lab and planet money…programs. You all must check it out. Especially on your 6 hour drives to the mountains (maybe that is just my former self talking). But why in Gods name is my tax money going to pay for it? To be honest, I don’t even mind the lefties…There is some damn fine programming. Oh and their music website is absolutely amazing![/quote]
It’s called establishing culture.
Sure NPR could go commercial, and next thing you know it’s 18 minutes of ads an hour.
why do we spend tax money on parks, libraries and fountains?
Look, where my tax money shouldn’t go is to wall street. I have no problem with it going to fix the things I need.
patb
Participant[quote=jstoesz]for the record I love NPR. Especially the This American Life and Radio Lab and planet money…programs. You all must check it out. Especially on your 6 hour drives to the mountains (maybe that is just my former self talking). But why in Gods name is my tax money going to pay for it? To be honest, I don’t even mind the lefties…There is some damn fine programming. Oh and their music website is absolutely amazing![/quote]
It’s called establishing culture.
Sure NPR could go commercial, and next thing you know it’s 18 minutes of ads an hour.
why do we spend tax money on parks, libraries and fountains?
Look, where my tax money shouldn’t go is to wall street. I have no problem with it going to fix the things I need.
patb
Participant[quote=jstoesz]for the record I love NPR. Especially the This American Life and Radio Lab and planet money…programs. You all must check it out. Especially on your 6 hour drives to the mountains (maybe that is just my former self talking). But why in Gods name is my tax money going to pay for it? To be honest, I don’t even mind the lefties…There is some damn fine programming. Oh and their music website is absolutely amazing![/quote]
It’s called establishing culture.
Sure NPR could go commercial, and next thing you know it’s 18 minutes of ads an hour.
why do we spend tax money on parks, libraries and fountains?
Look, where my tax money shouldn’t go is to wall street. I have no problem with it going to fix the things I need.
patb
Participant[quote=svelte]I looked into going tankless a year or two back and found it not to be cost effective at this time, due to the extra cost of tankless units and the relocation of venting, plumbing, etc that would be necessary.
Additionally, something that most people overlook is the extra maintenance involved with tankless. Since they have water running through small pipes to be heated, calcium and other mineral buildup must be removed regularly:
http://homerepair.about.com/b/2008/01/26/mysteries-of-tankless-water-heaters-2.htm
I asked my plumber about this and he said yes, they should be cleaned every couple of years and he would charge about $200 to do it. That adds up quick.
I’m sure it could be done on your own, but it didn’t sound simple from what I read online – at least not as simple as connecting a hose and turning on the spigot which is what I do on my own to flush my hot water heater tank now.[/quote]
it’s easy, when you get it installed, have the plumber install flushing valves, these are cutoffs and t joints that let you hook up a pump and flush a vinegar solution in.
BTW, my Bosch didn’t require this. The rennai does.
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Participant[quote=svelte]I looked into going tankless a year or two back and found it not to be cost effective at this time, due to the extra cost of tankless units and the relocation of venting, plumbing, etc that would be necessary.
Additionally, something that most people overlook is the extra maintenance involved with tankless. Since they have water running through small pipes to be heated, calcium and other mineral buildup must be removed regularly:
http://homerepair.about.com/b/2008/01/26/mysteries-of-tankless-water-heaters-2.htm
I asked my plumber about this and he said yes, they should be cleaned every couple of years and he would charge about $200 to do it. That adds up quick.
I’m sure it could be done on your own, but it didn’t sound simple from what I read online – at least not as simple as connecting a hose and turning on the spigot which is what I do on my own to flush my hot water heater tank now.[/quote]
it’s easy, when you get it installed, have the plumber install flushing valves, these are cutoffs and t joints that let you hook up a pump and flush a vinegar solution in.
BTW, my Bosch didn’t require this. The rennai does.
patb
Participant[quote=svelte]I looked into going tankless a year or two back and found it not to be cost effective at this time, due to the extra cost of tankless units and the relocation of venting, plumbing, etc that would be necessary.
Additionally, something that most people overlook is the extra maintenance involved with tankless. Since they have water running through small pipes to be heated, calcium and other mineral buildup must be removed regularly:
http://homerepair.about.com/b/2008/01/26/mysteries-of-tankless-water-heaters-2.htm
I asked my plumber about this and he said yes, they should be cleaned every couple of years and he would charge about $200 to do it. That adds up quick.
I’m sure it could be done on your own, but it didn’t sound simple from what I read online – at least not as simple as connecting a hose and turning on the spigot which is what I do on my own to flush my hot water heater tank now.[/quote]
it’s easy, when you get it installed, have the plumber install flushing valves, these are cutoffs and t joints that let you hook up a pump and flush a vinegar solution in.
BTW, my Bosch didn’t require this. The rennai does.
patb
Participant[quote=svelte]I looked into going tankless a year or two back and found it not to be cost effective at this time, due to the extra cost of tankless units and the relocation of venting, plumbing, etc that would be necessary.
Additionally, something that most people overlook is the extra maintenance involved with tankless. Since they have water running through small pipes to be heated, calcium and other mineral buildup must be removed regularly:
http://homerepair.about.com/b/2008/01/26/mysteries-of-tankless-water-heaters-2.htm
I asked my plumber about this and he said yes, they should be cleaned every couple of years and he would charge about $200 to do it. That adds up quick.
I’m sure it could be done on your own, but it didn’t sound simple from what I read online – at least not as simple as connecting a hose and turning on the spigot which is what I do on my own to flush my hot water heater tank now.[/quote]
it’s easy, when you get it installed, have the plumber install flushing valves, these are cutoffs and t joints that let you hook up a pump and flush a vinegar solution in.
BTW, my Bosch didn’t require this. The rennai does.
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