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[quote=surveyor]intelligensia

. My main criticism of him is his lack of historical knowledge. In Bush’s case, however, there have been many people who have claimed him to be unintelligent, a claim that is factually untrue.

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1) GWB was having trouble reading in the 4th Grade.

2) This is a guy who didn’t know the difference between Shia and Sunni.

3) This is a guy who had trouble holding a conversation.

10 years in Betty Ford won’t rehabilitate that loser.

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This is really typical of the sad dissolution of the GOP.
The party is reduced to bizarre theories about Obama’s past.

Sometimes Brilliant is more then in grades. Sometimes Amazing is in more
then LSAT’s. Maybe Obama didn’t want to clerk, but needed to make
some money at a firm.

If the theory was Obama was just an AA baby, then I suggest they
find data. Dig up facts. Interview people.

Oterwise STFU

[patb]

This is really typical of the sad dissolution of the GOP.
The party is reduced to bizarre theories about Obama’s past.

Sometimes Brilliant is more then in grades. Sometimes Amazing is in more
then LSAT’s. Maybe Obama didn’t want to clerk, but needed to make
some money at a firm.

If the theory was Obama was just an AA baby, then I suggest they
find data. Dig up facts. Interview people.

Oterwise STFU

[patb]

This is really typical of the sad dissolution of the GOP.
The party is reduced to bizarre theories about Obama’s past.

Sometimes Brilliant is more then in grades. Sometimes Amazing is in more
then LSAT’s. Maybe Obama didn’t want to clerk, but needed to make
some money at a firm.

If the theory was Obama was just an AA baby, then I suggest they
find data. Dig up facts. Interview people.

Oterwise STFU

[patb]

This is really typical of the sad dissolution of the GOP.
The party is reduced to bizarre theories about Obama’s past.

Sometimes Brilliant is more then in grades. Sometimes Amazing is in more
then LSAT’s. Maybe Obama didn’t want to clerk, but needed to make
some money at a firm.

If the theory was Obama was just an AA baby, then I suggest they
find data. Dig up facts. Interview people.

Oterwise STFU

[patb]

This is really typical of the sad dissolution of the GOP.
The party is reduced to bizarre theories about Obama’s past.

Sometimes Brilliant is more then in grades. Sometimes Amazing is in more
then LSAT’s. Maybe Obama didn’t want to clerk, but needed to make
some money at a firm.

If the theory was Obama was just an AA baby, then I suggest they
find data. Dig up facts. Interview people.

Oterwise STFU

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[quote=Eugene]SV 650 is not the best first bike, too much torque. Also, it’s too “sporty” meaning that your body is reclined forward – you get used to it eventually, but it’s just not very comfortable and your muscles will ache after 20 miles on the bike. I have Ninja 650R in my garage, it’s better in both aspects.

Your height is more important than your weight. It is important for the beginner to be able to put both heels on the ground when the bike is stopped. 600+ cc sport bikes almost universally have high seats that make flat-footing impossible for a short person. If you’re under 5’8″, I’d strongly recommend a smaller bike.

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I am 5’9′ and my 440 was marginally too tall

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[quote=Eugene]SV 650 is not the best first bike, too much torque. Also, it’s too “sporty” meaning that your body is reclined forward – you get used to it eventually, but it’s just not very comfortable and your muscles will ache after 20 miles on the bike. I have Ninja 650R in my garage, it’s better in both aspects.

Your height is more important than your weight. It is important for the beginner to be able to put both heels on the ground when the bike is stopped. 600+ cc sport bikes almost universally have high seats that make flat-footing impossible for a short person. If you’re under 5’8″, I’d strongly recommend a smaller bike.

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I am 5’9′ and my 440 was marginally too tall

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]SV 650 is not the best first bike, too much torque. Also, it’s too “sporty” meaning that your body is reclined forward – you get used to it eventually, but it’s just not very comfortable and your muscles will ache after 20 miles on the bike. I have Ninja 650R in my garage, it’s better in both aspects.

Your height is more important than your weight. It is important for the beginner to be able to put both heels on the ground when the bike is stopped. 600+ cc sport bikes almost universally have high seats that make flat-footing impossible for a short person. If you’re under 5’8″, I’d strongly recommend a smaller bike.

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I am 5’9′ and my 440 was marginally too tall

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]SV 650 is not the best first bike, too much torque. Also, it’s too “sporty” meaning that your body is reclined forward – you get used to it eventually, but it’s just not very comfortable and your muscles will ache after 20 miles on the bike. I have Ninja 650R in my garage, it’s better in both aspects.

Your height is more important than your weight. It is important for the beginner to be able to put both heels on the ground when the bike is stopped. 600+ cc sport bikes almost universally have high seats that make flat-footing impossible for a short person. If you’re under 5’8″, I’d strongly recommend a smaller bike.

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I am 5’9′ and my 440 was marginally too tall

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]SV 650 is not the best first bike, too much torque. Also, it’s too “sporty” meaning that your body is reclined forward – you get used to it eventually, but it’s just not very comfortable and your muscles will ache after 20 miles on the bike. I have Ninja 650R in my garage, it’s better in both aspects.

Your height is more important than your weight. It is important for the beginner to be able to put both heels on the ground when the bike is stopped. 600+ cc sport bikes almost universally have high seats that make flat-footing impossible for a short person. If you’re under 5’8″, I’d strongly recommend a smaller bike.

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I am 5’9′ and my 440 was marginally too tall

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[quote=sd_matt]I’m looking at getting my license and then buying a used street/sport bike around 600cc. Keep in mind the last thing I rode was a 50cc YSR about ten years ago. So a few questions.

1. What’s a good safety course that takes the place of the DMV test and how much does it cost?

(If the Motorcycle Safety Foundation is still in business, Take that, it’s a
sound course I took it)

2.After that course are there any more advanced courses that teaches one how to handle a bike and even lay it down correctly?
(MSF has an advanced course and a refresher course)

3. What safety equipment do you recommend and how much does it cost?

(Full Face helmet, Snell certified, not DOT, not used, NEW.
Leather jacket, Riding gloves, Chaps, heavy leather boots)

4. What’s a good used 600cc (ballpark) that will be reliable that you wouldn’t mind dinging up? Can I get one for less than $3k?

( I would reccomend a 300-350 at first, you need to practice a lot
before you get a 600 plus.)

5. I’m gonna get my license first and would like to rent a few bikes first. Are there places that do that?

(Buy a bike from the estate of some kid who hated helmets)

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[quote=sd_matt]I’m looking at getting my license and then buying a used street/sport bike around 600cc. Keep in mind the last thing I rode was a 50cc YSR about ten years ago. So a few questions.

1. What’s a good safety course that takes the place of the DMV test and how much does it cost?

(If the Motorcycle Safety Foundation is still in business, Take that, it’s a
sound course I took it)

2.After that course are there any more advanced courses that teaches one how to handle a bike and even lay it down correctly?
(MSF has an advanced course and a refresher course)

3. What safety equipment do you recommend and how much does it cost?

(Full Face helmet, Snell certified, not DOT, not used, NEW.
Leather jacket, Riding gloves, Chaps, heavy leather boots)

4. What’s a good used 600cc (ballpark) that will be reliable that you wouldn’t mind dinging up? Can I get one for less than $3k?

( I would reccomend a 300-350 at first, you need to practice a lot
before you get a 600 plus.)

5. I’m gonna get my license first and would like to rent a few bikes first. Are there places that do that?

(Buy a bike from the estate of some kid who hated helmets)

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[patb]

[quote=sd_matt]I’m looking at getting my license and then buying a used street/sport bike around 600cc. Keep in mind the last thing I rode was a 50cc YSR about ten years ago. So a few questions.

1. What’s a good safety course that takes the place of the DMV test and how much does it cost?

(If the Motorcycle Safety Foundation is still in business, Take that, it’s a
sound course I took it)

2.After that course are there any more advanced courses that teaches one how to handle a bike and even lay it down correctly?
(MSF has an advanced course and a refresher course)

3. What safety equipment do you recommend and how much does it cost?

(Full Face helmet, Snell certified, not DOT, not used, NEW.
Leather jacket, Riding gloves, Chaps, heavy leather boots)

4. What’s a good used 600cc (ballpark) that will be reliable that you wouldn’t mind dinging up? Can I get one for less than $3k?

( I would reccomend a 300-350 at first, you need to practice a lot
before you get a 600 plus.)

5. I’m gonna get my license first and would like to rent a few bikes first. Are there places that do that?

(Buy a bike from the estate of some kid who hated helmets)

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[patb]

[quote=sd_matt]I’m looking at getting my license and then buying a used street/sport bike around 600cc. Keep in mind the last thing I rode was a 50cc YSR about ten years ago. So a few questions.

1. What’s a good safety course that takes the place of the DMV test and how much does it cost?

(If the Motorcycle Safety Foundation is still in business, Take that, it’s a
sound course I took it)

2.After that course are there any more advanced courses that teaches one how to handle a bike and even lay it down correctly?
(MSF has an advanced course and a refresher course)

3. What safety equipment do you recommend and how much does it cost?

(Full Face helmet, Snell certified, not DOT, not used, NEW.
Leather jacket, Riding gloves, Chaps, heavy leather boots)

4. What’s a good used 600cc (ballpark) that will be reliable that you wouldn’t mind dinging up? Can I get one for less than $3k?

( I would reccomend a 300-350 at first, you need to practice a lot
before you get a 600 plus.)

5. I’m gonna get my license first and would like to rent a few bikes first. Are there places that do that?

(Buy a bike from the estate of some kid who hated helmets)

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