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outtamojo
Participantyeah, the lower end and condos are still getting hit over in SEH.
Participantyeah, the lower end and condos are still getting hit over in SEH.
Participantyeah, the lower end and condos are still getting hit over in SEH.
Participantyeah, the lower end and condos are still getting hit over in SEH.
ParticipantHere’s one in SEH asking 414K http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110015531-92078
ParticipantHere’s one in SEH asking 414K http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110015531-92078
ParticipantHere’s one in SEH asking 414K http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110015531-92078
ParticipantHere’s one in SEH asking 414K http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110015531-92078
ParticipantHere’s one in SEH asking 414K http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110015531-92078
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]
But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.
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Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]
Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]
But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.
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Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]
Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]
But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.
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Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]
Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]
But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.
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Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]
Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]
But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.
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Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]
Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.
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