[orthofrancis]

Wow – total payout for the mortgage fees alone, assuming a 30 year mortgage is just over one million. Adding in the condo fees and taxes, they will pay 1.3 million over 30 years.
Lets see, 3700 x 12 months = 44.4 k/year to live there
renting comp unit 2100 x 12 = 25.2k/year (averaged hits from craigslist of 2 bd rentals around union square)

You can rent same place for about half of what the pay to own.

ewwww

[orthofrancis]

Wow – total payout for the mortgage fees alone, assuming a 30 year mortgage is just over one million. Adding in the condo fees and taxes, they will pay 1.3 million over 30 years.
Lets see, 3700 x 12 months = 44.4 k/year to live there
renting comp unit 2100 x 12 = 25.2k/year (averaged hits from craigslist of 2 bd rentals around union square)

You can rent same place for about half of what the pay to own.

ewwww

[orthofrancis]

Wow – total payout for the mortgage fees alone, assuming a 30 year mortgage is just over one million. Adding in the condo fees and taxes, they will pay 1.3 million over 30 years.
Lets see, 3700 x 12 months = 44.4 k/year to live there
renting comp unit 2100 x 12 = 25.2k/year (averaged hits from craigslist of 2 bd rentals around union square)

You can rent same place for about half of what the pay to own.

ewwww

[orthofrancis]

Wow – total payout for the mortgage fees alone, assuming a 30 year mortgage is just over one million. Adding in the condo fees and taxes, they will pay 1.3 million over 30 years.
Lets see, 3700 x 12 months = 44.4 k/year to live there
renting comp unit 2100 x 12 = 25.2k/year (averaged hits from craigslist of 2 bd rentals around union square)

You can rent same place for about half of what the pay to own.

ewwww

[orthofrancis]

Wow – total payout for the mortgage fees alone, assuming a 30 year mortgage is just over one million. Adding in the condo fees and taxes, they will pay 1.3 million over 30 years.
Lets see, 3700 x 12 months = 44.4 k/year to live there
renting comp unit 2100 x 12 = 25.2k/year (averaged hits from craigslist of 2 bd rentals around union square)

You can rent same place for about half of what the pay to own.

ewwww

[orthofrancis]

In Los Angeles they are going down, because so many houses are on the market, people are renting out to make some money.

[orthofrancis]

In Los Angeles they are going down, because so many houses are on the market, people are renting out to make some money.

[orthofrancis]

In Los Angeles they are going down, because so many houses are on the market, people are renting out to make some money.

[orthofrancis]

In Los Angeles they are going down, because so many houses are on the market, people are renting out to make some money.

[orthofrancis]

In Los Angeles they are going down, because so many houses are on the market, people are renting out to make some money.

[orthofrancis]

[quote=hipmatt][quote=alarmclock]This whole Palin “thing” is so surreal I can’t shake the feeling that it’s a dream. I mean, I remember going to bed last night, then waking up and going to work and coming home, so I know I’m not actually dreaming. But when I really focus on it, it’s like something out of a story. Weird.[/quote]

I can see your confusion.. but the only thing worse is that most Americans at this point, support a rookie senator with no accomplishments who was judged to be the most liberal senator on 2007..blah blah…

Alarmclock.. talk about bad dreams.. The sad thing is that some day soon, I’m gonna wake up in some foreign place with the same longitude and latitude as the USA we know today.. except the country will resemble something in between China and France. Today was a milestone (bailout bill) towards socializing America, and Obama taking office could be the final nail in the coffin. When he talks about change, I believe him.. and it scares the crap out of me. A country just can’t recover from a massive enlargement of government. Those additions will be permanent.

.. keep the change.
[/quote]

Well, that might not be a bad thing since the Republicans trashed America
Republicans ruined America’s
Image/Standing/Respect in the world
Finance/Economy
Personal rights
Job base
Waged a war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11

So I view him being voted most Liberal as a good thing. I find it funny how “conservatives” use Liberal as if it’s like communism or something.
It’s funny, but I didn’t see the fundamentalist right complain about socialism when the money was being funneled to them at the top. But when it might reverse direction…..McCain is the one who put his campaign on “hold” so he could tax us to pay out corporations – i.e. like socialism..we pay and get little out of it.

We’ve been at war now with some little dinky country longer than it took us to win WWII

[orthofrancis]

[quote=hipmatt][quote=alarmclock]This whole Palin “thing” is so surreal I can’t shake the feeling that it’s a dream. I mean, I remember going to bed last night, then waking up and going to work and coming home, so I know I’m not actually dreaming. But when I really focus on it, it’s like something out of a story. Weird.[/quote]

I can see your confusion.. but the only thing worse is that most Americans at this point, support a rookie senator with no accomplishments who was judged to be the most liberal senator on 2007..blah blah…

Alarmclock.. talk about bad dreams.. The sad thing is that some day soon, I’m gonna wake up in some foreign place with the same longitude and latitude as the USA we know today.. except the country will resemble something in between China and France. Today was a milestone (bailout bill) towards socializing America, and Obama taking office could be the final nail in the coffin. When he talks about change, I believe him.. and it scares the crap out of me. A country just can’t recover from a massive enlargement of government. Those additions will be permanent.

.. keep the change.
[/quote]

Well, that might not be a bad thing since the Republicans trashed America
Republicans ruined America’s
Image/Standing/Respect in the world
Finance/Economy
Personal rights
Job base
Waged a war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11

So I view him being voted most Liberal as a good thing. I find it funny how “conservatives” use Liberal as if it’s like communism or something.
It’s funny, but I didn’t see the fundamentalist right complain about socialism when the money was being funneled to them at the top. But when it might reverse direction…..McCain is the one who put his campaign on “hold” so he could tax us to pay out corporations – i.e. like socialism..we pay and get little out of it.

We’ve been at war now with some little dinky country longer than it took us to win WWII

[orthofrancis]

[quote=hipmatt][quote=alarmclock]This whole Palin “thing” is so surreal I can’t shake the feeling that it’s a dream. I mean, I remember going to bed last night, then waking up and going to work and coming home, so I know I’m not actually dreaming. But when I really focus on it, it’s like something out of a story. Weird.[/quote]

I can see your confusion.. but the only thing worse is that most Americans at this point, support a rookie senator with no accomplishments who was judged to be the most liberal senator on 2007..blah blah…

Alarmclock.. talk about bad dreams.. The sad thing is that some day soon, I’m gonna wake up in some foreign place with the same longitude and latitude as the USA we know today.. except the country will resemble something in between China and France. Today was a milestone (bailout bill) towards socializing America, and Obama taking office could be the final nail in the coffin. When he talks about change, I believe him.. and it scares the crap out of me. A country just can’t recover from a massive enlargement of government. Those additions will be permanent.

.. keep the change.
[/quote]

Well, that might not be a bad thing since the Republicans trashed America
Republicans ruined America’s
Image/Standing/Respect in the world
Finance/Economy
Personal rights
Job base
Waged a war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11

So I view him being voted most Liberal as a good thing. I find it funny how “conservatives” use Liberal as if it’s like communism or something.
It’s funny, but I didn’t see the fundamentalist right complain about socialism when the money was being funneled to them at the top. But when it might reverse direction…..McCain is the one who put his campaign on “hold” so he could tax us to pay out corporations – i.e. like socialism..we pay and get little out of it.

We’ve been at war now with some little dinky country longer than it took us to win WWII

[orthofrancis]

[quote=hipmatt][quote=alarmclock]This whole Palin “thing” is so surreal I can’t shake the feeling that it’s a dream. I mean, I remember going to bed last night, then waking up and going to work and coming home, so I know I’m not actually dreaming. But when I really focus on it, it’s like something out of a story. Weird.[/quote]

I can see your confusion.. but the only thing worse is that most Americans at this point, support a rookie senator with no accomplishments who was judged to be the most liberal senator on 2007..blah blah…

Alarmclock.. talk about bad dreams.. The sad thing is that some day soon, I’m gonna wake up in some foreign place with the same longitude and latitude as the USA we know today.. except the country will resemble something in between China and France. Today was a milestone (bailout bill) towards socializing America, and Obama taking office could be the final nail in the coffin. When he talks about change, I believe him.. and it scares the crap out of me. A country just can’t recover from a massive enlargement of government. Those additions will be permanent.

.. keep the change.
[/quote]

Well, that might not be a bad thing since the Republicans trashed America
Republicans ruined America’s
Image/Standing/Respect in the world
Finance/Economy
Personal rights
Job base
Waged a war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11

So I view him being voted most Liberal as a good thing. I find it funny how “conservatives” use Liberal as if it’s like communism or something.
It’s funny, but I didn’t see the fundamentalist right complain about socialism when the money was being funneled to them at the top. But when it might reverse direction…..McCain is the one who put his campaign on “hold” so he could tax us to pay out corporations – i.e. like socialism..we pay and get little out of it.

We’ve been at war now with some little dinky country longer than it took us to win WWII

[orthofrancis]

[quote=hipmatt][quote=alarmclock]This whole Palin “thing” is so surreal I can’t shake the feeling that it’s a dream. I mean, I remember going to bed last night, then waking up and going to work and coming home, so I know I’m not actually dreaming. But when I really focus on it, it’s like something out of a story. Weird.[/quote]

I can see your confusion.. but the only thing worse is that most Americans at this point, support a rookie senator with no accomplishments who was judged to be the most liberal senator on 2007..blah blah…

Alarmclock.. talk about bad dreams.. The sad thing is that some day soon, I’m gonna wake up in some foreign place with the same longitude and latitude as the USA we know today.. except the country will resemble something in between China and France. Today was a milestone (bailout bill) towards socializing America, and Obama taking office could be the final nail in the coffin. When he talks about change, I believe him.. and it scares the crap out of me. A country just can’t recover from a massive enlargement of government. Those additions will be permanent.

.. keep the change.
[/quote]

Well, that might not be a bad thing since the Republicans trashed America
Republicans ruined America’s
Image/Standing/Respect in the world
Finance/Economy
Personal rights
Job base
Waged a war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11

So I view him being voted most Liberal as a good thing. I find it funny how “conservatives” use Liberal as if it’s like communism or something.
It’s funny, but I didn’t see the fundamentalist right complain about socialism when the money was being funneled to them at the top. But when it might reverse direction…..McCain is the one who put his campaign on “hold” so he could tax us to pay out corporations – i.e. like socialism..we pay and get little out of it.

We’ve been at war now with some little dinky country longer than it took us to win WWII

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