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September 14, 2011 at 8:11 PM in reply to: When Mello Roos matters . . . your kids get first priority in schools over non-Mello Roos payers #729063ocrenterParticipant
[quote=FormerSanDiegan]Perhaps this is what caused the incident…
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haha, NICE!
ocrenterParticipantThey say this was from a “procedural error” during routine maintenance.
Sounds like somebody tripped over some wires, oops. Straight out of the cartoons.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=briansd1]So CA renter, I think we agree on several things.
We should not eat the same food that our agrarian elders ate.
We should not eat processed junk food. The definition of junk is yet to be defined.
We should reduce stress.
We should try to be healthy. What is healthy? IMO, we should start with medical science and BMI which I think is generous.
[quote=CA renter] Let’s focus on the important things in life, and stop obsessing about the things that people have little/no control over.[/quote]
Things we can’t control like the intrincic forces of globalization? We can control our health, however — at least to a great extent.[/quote]
once again, the problem proves to be multifactorial.
ocrenterParticipantCAR, sorry to hear about your sister. Just remember, no one here is saying there’s no metabolic differences. And it is true, if someone is genetically overweight, they will be healthier staying overweight. What I have seen however is because of the changes we have induced for ourselves over the last 50 years, a lot of the genetically overweight are now obese, and this is quite concerning.
The same can be said for a lot of Filipinos I know. They are meant to be skinny people, and what is happening is a lot of them are overweight, and their bodies can’t handle it. They develop diabetes, hypertension, cholesterol problem, and gout just by being overweight.
Lastly, you are right about people that over do the exercise. There is evidence that extreme exercise leads to cardiac scarring.
The Buddha was very wise in his advocation of the middle path. Most things in life are truly better in moderation.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]API scores mean nothing.
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fuck the API score. meaningless….all that matters is whether you find your own way.[/quote]
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BG
You are a moron. Don’t you know that 99% of scaredy’s posts are mocking us? He’s toying with us and you are one of the people foolish enough to bite on his bait over and over again.[/quote]Even the name “scaredy” is a self mocking name. He is straight up from that tried and true Jewish School of Humor that we love so much.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]API scores mean nothing.
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fuck the API score. meaningless….all that matters is whether you find your own way.[/quote]
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BG
You are a moron. Don’t you know that 99% of scaredy’s posts are mocking us? He’s toying with us and you are one of the people foolish enough to bite on his bait over and over again.[/quote]Even the name “scaredy” is a self mocking name. He is straight up from that tried and true Jewish School of Humor that we love so much.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=briansd1]This obesity issue is controversial because people see themselves and take it personally. As more and more of the population is fat, the issue becomes more of a hot potato, despite the science.
The data is there. As ocrenter pointed out, obesity in America is a huge problem. The progression of obesity over the years shows that it’s a food and behavior problem more than a genetic problem.
Of course some people are predisposed to eating more, and metabolizing less calories.
We are not born the same.
If a person is naturally fat, that person has to try harder. She needs to eat foods that have move volume but less calories.
Likewise a student who is not that intelligent needs to try harder at school. Failure is not acceptable. A person who is born poor needs to work harder in life. Those are facts of life.
CA renter, you want to kick out people who can’t pay their mortgage, but you won’t tell naturally inclined fat people that they can never have brownies?[/quote]
thank you brian. well said.
remember, we did not start off with ZERO% obesity rate, we started at 10%. so those are the genetically obese. there is no question they exist.
The problem once again is half of that genetically obese population is now severely obese. That is a major issue. The problem that most of the genetically overweight are now obese is a major issue.
Continuing to focus the debate on the fact that there are folks genetically prone to obesity doesn’t make sense because we are all in agreement in regard to their existance.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=briansd1]This obesity issue is controversial because people see themselves and take it personally. As more and more of the population is fat, the issue becomes more of a hot potato, despite the science.
The data is there. As ocrenter pointed out, obesity in America is a huge problem. The progression of obesity over the years shows that it’s a food and behavior problem more than a genetic problem.
Of course some people are predisposed to eating more, and metabolizing less calories.
We are not born the same.
If a person is naturally fat, that person has to try harder. She needs to eat foods that have move volume but less calories.
Likewise a student who is not that intelligent needs to try harder at school. Failure is not acceptable. A person who is born poor needs to work harder in life. Those are facts of life.
CA renter, you want to kick out people who can’t pay their mortgage, but you won’t tell naturally inclined fat people that they can never have brownies?[/quote]
thank you brian. well said.
remember, we did not start off with ZERO% obesity rate, we started at 10%. so those are the genetically obese. there is no question they exist.
The problem once again is half of that genetically obese population is now severely obese. That is a major issue. The problem that most of the genetically overweight are now obese is a major issue.
Continuing to focus the debate on the fact that there are folks genetically prone to obesity doesn’t make sense because we are all in agreement in regard to their existance.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=briansd1]This obesity issue is controversial because people see themselves and take it personally. As more and more of the population is fat, the issue becomes more of a hot potato, despite the science.
The data is there. As ocrenter pointed out, obesity in America is a huge problem. The progression of obesity over the years shows that it’s a food and behavior problem more than a genetic problem.
Of course some people are predisposed to eating more, and metabolizing less calories.
We are not born the same.
If a person is naturally fat, that person has to try harder. She needs to eat foods that have move volume but less calories.
Likewise a student who is not that intelligent needs to try harder at school. Failure is not acceptable. A person who is born poor needs to work harder in life. Those are facts of life.
CA renter, you want to kick out people who can’t pay their mortgage, but you won’t tell naturally inclined fat people that they can never have brownies?[/quote]
thank you brian. well said.
remember, we did not start off with ZERO% obesity rate, we started at 10%. so those are the genetically obese. there is no question they exist.
The problem once again is half of that genetically obese population is now severely obese. That is a major issue. The problem that most of the genetically overweight are now obese is a major issue.
Continuing to focus the debate on the fact that there are folks genetically prone to obesity doesn’t make sense because we are all in agreement in regard to their existance.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=briansd1]This obesity issue is controversial because people see themselves and take it personally. As more and more of the population is fat, the issue becomes more of a hot potato, despite the science.
The data is there. As ocrenter pointed out, obesity in America is a huge problem. The progression of obesity over the years shows that it’s a food and behavior problem more than a genetic problem.
Of course some people are predisposed to eating more, and metabolizing less calories.
We are not born the same.
If a person is naturally fat, that person has to try harder. She needs to eat foods that have move volume but less calories.
Likewise a student who is not that intelligent needs to try harder at school. Failure is not acceptable. A person who is born poor needs to work harder in life. Those are facts of life.
CA renter, you want to kick out people who can’t pay their mortgage, but you won’t tell naturally inclined fat people that they can never have brownies?[/quote]
thank you brian. well said.
remember, we did not start off with ZERO% obesity rate, we started at 10%. so those are the genetically obese. there is no question they exist.
The problem once again is half of that genetically obese population is now severely obese. That is a major issue. The problem that most of the genetically overweight are now obese is a major issue.
Continuing to focus the debate on the fact that there are folks genetically prone to obesity doesn’t make sense because we are all in agreement in regard to their existance.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=briansd1]This obesity issue is controversial because people see themselves and take it personally. As more and more of the population is fat, the issue becomes more of a hot potato, despite the science.
The data is there. As ocrenter pointed out, obesity in America is a huge problem. The progression of obesity over the years shows that it’s a food and behavior problem more than a genetic problem.
Of course some people are predisposed to eating more, and metabolizing less calories.
We are not born the same.
If a person is naturally fat, that person has to try harder. She needs to eat foods that have move volume but less calories.
Likewise a student who is not that intelligent needs to try harder at school. Failure is not acceptable. A person who is born poor needs to work harder in life. Those are facts of life.
CA renter, you want to kick out people who can’t pay their mortgage, but you won’t tell naturally inclined fat people that they can never have brownies?[/quote]
thank you brian. well said.
remember, we did not start off with ZERO% obesity rate, we started at 10%. so those are the genetically obese. there is no question they exist.
The problem once again is half of that genetically obese population is now severely obese. That is a major issue. The problem that most of the genetically overweight are now obese is a major issue.
Continuing to focus the debate on the fact that there are folks genetically prone to obesity doesn’t make sense because we are all in agreement in regard to their existance.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
One misconception from another post ocrenter, fatty foods will not leave you hungry later on, they are quite satiating.[/quote]
fatty food routinely lead to overeating in the research environment.
you mentioned the Paleo diet previously. that is not a high fat diet. it focus on lean meats, reduce carb intake and change the carbs to whole grain.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
One misconception from another post ocrenter, fatty foods will not leave you hungry later on, they are quite satiating.[/quote]
fatty food routinely lead to overeating in the research environment.
you mentioned the Paleo diet previously. that is not a high fat diet. it focus on lean meats, reduce carb intake and change the carbs to whole grain.
ocrenterParticipant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
One misconception from another post ocrenter, fatty foods will not leave you hungry later on, they are quite satiating.[/quote]
fatty food routinely lead to overeating in the research environment.
you mentioned the Paleo diet previously. that is not a high fat diet. it focus on lean meats, reduce carb intake and change the carbs to whole grain.
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