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ParticipantRight or wrong it seems there just are a hell of a lot of people that are not concerned about a systemic meltdown. As has been pointed out many have strong positions to handle the risk. Buyers of cheap condos and beat up stuff can be at parity with rent or better. I think for some of us those factors are as important as when we realized something was weird with housing prices. Also in play, our various historical experiences with our own real estate endeavors and that of our friends and associates and also what risk buying poses for our current interests and for some of us, those of our clients and prospective clients.
Different strokes for different folks. It is a little frustrating to see people categorically align any optimism with “bullishness” or some kind of malevolent prodding. Of course any realtor is also self interested but that in itself doesn’t merit an indictment. Trolling through here selling an overpriced house with bullshit is.
The market and its nuances, including opportunities for gain or just a desired life-style choice with a lot less downside risk are are getting broader everyday. I think for the most part those of us talking about upside are also openly discussing the situation that appear to be more risky. Nobody wants to see someone get hurt. I don’t think we will be the ones that are in denial going forward. Someone who thinks there are ZERO good or reasonable deals in San Diego regardless of the buyers situation is or at least has a good chance of being wrong. Will they be hurt if they wait? No. Nobody here is challenging that.
ParticipantRight or wrong it seems there just are a hell of a lot of people that are not concerned about a systemic meltdown. As has been pointed out many have strong positions to handle the risk. Buyers of cheap condos and beat up stuff can be at parity with rent or better. I think for some of us those factors are as important as when we realized something was weird with housing prices. Also in play, our various historical experiences with our own real estate endeavors and that of our friends and associates and also what risk buying poses for our current interests and for some of us, those of our clients and prospective clients.
Different strokes for different folks. It is a little frustrating to see people categorically align any optimism with “bullishness” or some kind of malevolent prodding. Of course any realtor is also self interested but that in itself doesn’t merit an indictment. Trolling through here selling an overpriced house with bullshit is.
The market and its nuances, including opportunities for gain or just a desired life-style choice with a lot less downside risk are are getting broader everyday. I think for the most part those of us talking about upside are also openly discussing the situation that appear to be more risky. Nobody wants to see someone get hurt. I don’t think we will be the ones that are in denial going forward. Someone who thinks there are ZERO good or reasonable deals in San Diego regardless of the buyers situation is or at least has a good chance of being wrong. Will they be hurt if they wait? No. Nobody here is challenging that.
ParticipantRight or wrong it seems there just are a hell of a lot of people that are not concerned about a systemic meltdown. As has been pointed out many have strong positions to handle the risk. Buyers of cheap condos and beat up stuff can be at parity with rent or better. I think for some of us those factors are as important as when we realized something was weird with housing prices. Also in play, our various historical experiences with our own real estate endeavors and that of our friends and associates and also what risk buying poses for our current interests and for some of us, those of our clients and prospective clients.
Different strokes for different folks. It is a little frustrating to see people categorically align any optimism with “bullishness” or some kind of malevolent prodding. Of course any realtor is also self interested but that in itself doesn’t merit an indictment. Trolling through here selling an overpriced house with bullshit is.
The market and its nuances, including opportunities for gain or just a desired life-style choice with a lot less downside risk are are getting broader everyday. I think for the most part those of us talking about upside are also openly discussing the situation that appear to be more risky. Nobody wants to see someone get hurt. I don’t think we will be the ones that are in denial going forward. Someone who thinks there are ZERO good or reasonable deals in San Diego regardless of the buyers situation is or at least has a good chance of being wrong. Will they be hurt if they wait? No. Nobody here is challenging that.
ParticipantPoway Seller,
There are more. I just didn’t want to get streets in Allied Gardens or Lake Murray or spend an hour or more to get every house in Del Cerro proper, so that is what I came up with. It is enough to be representative of strength which I left for people to draw their own conclusions. The price range was all inclusive for my map page, row, column, search. For the most part the prices that have been mentioned on this thread are representative of Del Cerro $600k to 1M Maybe I should look closer but I think that is it.ParticipantPoway Seller,
There are more. I just didn’t want to get streets in Allied Gardens or Lake Murray or spend an hour or more to get every house in Del Cerro proper, so that is what I came up with. It is enough to be representative of strength which I left for people to draw their own conclusions. The price range was all inclusive for my map page, row, column, search. For the most part the prices that have been mentioned on this thread are representative of Del Cerro $600k to 1M Maybe I should look closer but I think that is it.ParticipantPoway Seller,
There are more. I just didn’t want to get streets in Allied Gardens or Lake Murray or spend an hour or more to get every house in Del Cerro proper, so that is what I came up with. It is enough to be representative of strength which I left for people to draw their own conclusions. The price range was all inclusive for my map page, row, column, search. For the most part the prices that have been mentioned on this thread are representative of Del Cerro $600k to 1M Maybe I should look closer but I think that is it.ParticipantPoway Seller,
There are more. I just didn’t want to get streets in Allied Gardens or Lake Murray or spend an hour or more to get every house in Del Cerro proper, so that is what I came up with. It is enough to be representative of strength which I left for people to draw their own conclusions. The price range was all inclusive for my map page, row, column, search. For the most part the prices that have been mentioned on this thread are representative of Del Cerro $600k to 1M Maybe I should look closer but I think that is it.ParticipantPoway Seller,
There are more. I just didn’t want to get streets in Allied Gardens or Lake Murray or spend an hour or more to get every house in Del Cerro proper, so that is what I came up with. It is enough to be representative of strength which I left for people to draw their own conclusions. The price range was all inclusive for my map page, row, column, search. For the most part the prices that have been mentioned on this thread are representative of Del Cerro $600k to 1M Maybe I should look closer but I think that is it.ParticipantHi Nost,
I read that in spanish. I think I got about 75% of it . Very high lexicon If that is how you say that? I also read La Hoja Rasca and Amor En Los Tiempos de Cholera. Be careful with that reading it as grim as it is amazing.Another book that comes to mind is the Adventures of Dorian Grey. For what ever reasons this thread is causing me to have associations with that book. I am not sure if it is you or davelj or me?LOL
ParticipantHi Nost,
I read that in spanish. I think I got about 75% of it . Very high lexicon If that is how you say that? I also read La Hoja Rasca and Amor En Los Tiempos de Cholera. Be careful with that reading it as grim as it is amazing.Another book that comes to mind is the Adventures of Dorian Grey. For what ever reasons this thread is causing me to have associations with that book. I am not sure if it is you or davelj or me?LOL
ParticipantHi Nost,
I read that in spanish. I think I got about 75% of it . Very high lexicon If that is how you say that? I also read La Hoja Rasca and Amor En Los Tiempos de Cholera. Be careful with that reading it as grim as it is amazing.Another book that comes to mind is the Adventures of Dorian Grey. For what ever reasons this thread is causing me to have associations with that book. I am not sure if it is you or davelj or me?LOL
ParticipantHi Nost,
I read that in spanish. I think I got about 75% of it . Very high lexicon If that is how you say that? I also read La Hoja Rasca and Amor En Los Tiempos de Cholera. Be careful with that reading it as grim as it is amazing.Another book that comes to mind is the Adventures of Dorian Grey. For what ever reasons this thread is causing me to have associations with that book. I am not sure if it is you or davelj or me?LOL
ParticipantHi Nost,
I read that in spanish. I think I got about 75% of it . Very high lexicon If that is how you say that? I also read La Hoja Rasca and Amor En Los Tiempos de Cholera. Be careful with that reading it as grim as it is amazing.Another book that comes to mind is the Adventures of Dorian Grey. For what ever reasons this thread is causing me to have associations with that book. I am not sure if it is you or davelj or me?LOL
ParticipantI am one of the poor rich guys you referred to Raptor. I really appreciate your comments there. Maybe I am wrong but I think most people in your shoes don’t get it. I educated myself just as hard to get to be rich this way as other do to get rich your way .I have no diplomas. I could go five or more years with out a job and be better off than most people even if my wife lost her part-time job where she makes not so much but finds fulfilment. I can live just fine marginally, but honestly employed. Periods higher success are huge windfalls by my standard. I will hopefully reach my retirement goals which are simply to be able to live like I do now without selling off my modest assets and by that being able to organize them to suit kids. Meanwhile my kids have never been under the care of anyone but my wife and I with the exception of a few occaisions with friends or family. We had 3 boys under five until Dec. when the oldest reached that milestone. We refused to put them in care until they are old enough to discuss it with us. This is excruciatingly hard and yes you do have to be rich one way or another to do it.
I also grew up very poor, in every sense of the word except for a maybe a few, like a third world one for example.So I think you should let me sell you a house. LOL
See you around TargetNavydoc. Congrats on the baby.
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