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NotCranky
ParticipantJPINPB,
However it comes out dependence and risk is a component or child rearing for men and for women. I don’t want the risk that we go down a slippery slope of avoiding this and a subsequent wealth transfer to women who go the sperm bank route. That would involve the goverment of course. That isn’t to to say I don’t think dependent children and women shouldn’t be cared for of course. I just don’t think we should institutionalize what I see as another un-wellness, a harem structure where the sperm is quasi- random and the sheik is the government. For what ti is worth my wife isn’t down with what I am saying we discussed it an agreed to disagree.
This has been fun you all. You too davelj.You definitely had some things to say. Sorry you have to help raise my kids if I turn into a F%&K-up and those of women who have children conceived via losers or sperm banks some of whom will certainly despise you for doing too little. Maybe you don’t mind? That little procedure is reversible now if you have a change of heart after my heart wrenching story of the “celebrating party” and the wonderful postings by the others.
Going back to housing topics where I am both loved and needed, as long as I am sufficiently bearish.
Thanks.NotCranky
ParticipantJPINPB,
However it comes out dependence and risk is a component or child rearing for men and for women. I don’t want the risk that we go down a slippery slope of avoiding this and a subsequent wealth transfer to women who go the sperm bank route. That would involve the goverment of course. That isn’t to to say I don’t think dependent children and women shouldn’t be cared for of course. I just don’t think we should institutionalize what I see as another un-wellness, a harem structure where the sperm is quasi- random and the sheik is the government. For what ti is worth my wife isn’t down with what I am saying we discussed it an agreed to disagree.
This has been fun you all. You too davelj.You definitely had some things to say. Sorry you have to help raise my kids if I turn into a F%&K-up and those of women who have children conceived via losers or sperm banks some of whom will certainly despise you for doing too little. Maybe you don’t mind? That little procedure is reversible now if you have a change of heart after my heart wrenching story of the “celebrating party” and the wonderful postings by the others.
Going back to housing topics where I am both loved and needed, as long as I am sufficiently bearish.
Thanks.NotCranky
ParticipantJPINPB,
However it comes out dependence and risk is a component or child rearing for men and for women. I don’t want the risk that we go down a slippery slope of avoiding this and a subsequent wealth transfer to women who go the sperm bank route. That would involve the goverment of course. That isn’t to to say I don’t think dependent children and women shouldn’t be cared for of course. I just don’t think we should institutionalize what I see as another un-wellness, a harem structure where the sperm is quasi- random and the sheik is the government. For what ti is worth my wife isn’t down with what I am saying we discussed it an agreed to disagree.
This has been fun you all. You too davelj.You definitely had some things to say. Sorry you have to help raise my kids if I turn into a F%&K-up and those of women who have children conceived via losers or sperm banks some of whom will certainly despise you for doing too little. Maybe you don’t mind? That little procedure is reversible now if you have a change of heart after my heart wrenching story of the “celebrating party” and the wonderful postings by the others.
Going back to housing topics where I am both loved and needed, as long as I am sufficiently bearish.
Thanks.NotCranky
ParticipantA question based on observation. Why is it that most women who go to sperm banks do so out of desperation when they are nearing 40 apparently unwanted by men or incapable of consumating a comfortable relationship with one in time to have a possibility of a traditional family unit at least for a few years?
Men are needed and this other thing is a cop out and coverup for dysfunction in pairing up.That is probably way too harsh. Maybe it is part fate. Fate just doesn’t serve up the opportunity for some reason? Not that these are not wonderful women in so many ways. I have met several. I have known several over decades and know that they had unfullfilled longings for quality male companionship before they took this ultimate decision. In some instances I might have been “the one” had they been more capable and/or more seductive.
Also in the animal kingom all this offspring rearing and pairing up happens with different degrees of “parental bonding” Some animals, even birds pair for life. They can’t help themselves. Others do so to varying degrees and periods of time. They also can’t help themselves given normal circumstances. Humans are significantly a pairing animal. Nature creates the need. Sure it can be subverted or missed, but that doesn’t mean it is not inherent in humans and if it is not, lack is isolated to individuals.
Maybe epidmeics of this lack are possible in sophisticated civilization but even that hasn’t proved that nature has changed.NotCranky
ParticipantA question based on observation. Why is it that most women who go to sperm banks do so out of desperation when they are nearing 40 apparently unwanted by men or incapable of consumating a comfortable relationship with one in time to have a possibility of a traditional family unit at least for a few years?
Men are needed and this other thing is a cop out and coverup for dysfunction in pairing up.That is probably way too harsh. Maybe it is part fate. Fate just doesn’t serve up the opportunity for some reason? Not that these are not wonderful women in so many ways. I have met several. I have known several over decades and know that they had unfullfilled longings for quality male companionship before they took this ultimate decision. In some instances I might have been “the one” had they been more capable and/or more seductive.
Also in the animal kingom all this offspring rearing and pairing up happens with different degrees of “parental bonding” Some animals, even birds pair for life. They can’t help themselves. Others do so to varying degrees and periods of time. They also can’t help themselves given normal circumstances. Humans are significantly a pairing animal. Nature creates the need. Sure it can be subverted or missed, but that doesn’t mean it is not inherent in humans and if it is not, lack is isolated to individuals.
Maybe epidmeics of this lack are possible in sophisticated civilization but even that hasn’t proved that nature has changed.NotCranky
ParticipantA question based on observation. Why is it that most women who go to sperm banks do so out of desperation when they are nearing 40 apparently unwanted by men or incapable of consumating a comfortable relationship with one in time to have a possibility of a traditional family unit at least for a few years?
Men are needed and this other thing is a cop out and coverup for dysfunction in pairing up.That is probably way too harsh. Maybe it is part fate. Fate just doesn’t serve up the opportunity for some reason? Not that these are not wonderful women in so many ways. I have met several. I have known several over decades and know that they had unfullfilled longings for quality male companionship before they took this ultimate decision. In some instances I might have been “the one” had they been more capable and/or more seductive.
Also in the animal kingom all this offspring rearing and pairing up happens with different degrees of “parental bonding” Some animals, even birds pair for life. They can’t help themselves. Others do so to varying degrees and periods of time. They also can’t help themselves given normal circumstances. Humans are significantly a pairing animal. Nature creates the need. Sure it can be subverted or missed, but that doesn’t mean it is not inherent in humans and if it is not, lack is isolated to individuals.
Maybe epidmeics of this lack are possible in sophisticated civilization but even that hasn’t proved that nature has changed.NotCranky
ParticipantA question based on observation. Why is it that most women who go to sperm banks do so out of desperation when they are nearing 40 apparently unwanted by men or incapable of consumating a comfortable relationship with one in time to have a possibility of a traditional family unit at least for a few years?
Men are needed and this other thing is a cop out and coverup for dysfunction in pairing up.That is probably way too harsh. Maybe it is part fate. Fate just doesn’t serve up the opportunity for some reason? Not that these are not wonderful women in so many ways. I have met several. I have known several over decades and know that they had unfullfilled longings for quality male companionship before they took this ultimate decision. In some instances I might have been “the one” had they been more capable and/or more seductive.
Also in the animal kingom all this offspring rearing and pairing up happens with different degrees of “parental bonding” Some animals, even birds pair for life. They can’t help themselves. Others do so to varying degrees and periods of time. They also can’t help themselves given normal circumstances. Humans are significantly a pairing animal. Nature creates the need. Sure it can be subverted or missed, but that doesn’t mean it is not inherent in humans and if it is not, lack is isolated to individuals.
Maybe epidmeics of this lack are possible in sophisticated civilization but even that hasn’t proved that nature has changed.NotCranky
ParticipantA question based on observation. Why is it that most women who go to sperm banks do so out of desperation when they are nearing 40 apparently unwanted by men or incapable of consumating a comfortable relationship with one in time to have a possibility of a traditional family unit at least for a few years?
Men are needed and this other thing is a cop out and coverup for dysfunction in pairing up.That is probably way too harsh. Maybe it is part fate. Fate just doesn’t serve up the opportunity for some reason? Not that these are not wonderful women in so many ways. I have met several. I have known several over decades and know that they had unfullfilled longings for quality male companionship before they took this ultimate decision. In some instances I might have been “the one” had they been more capable and/or more seductive.
Also in the animal kingom all this offspring rearing and pairing up happens with different degrees of “parental bonding” Some animals, even birds pair for life. They can’t help themselves. Others do so to varying degrees and periods of time. They also can’t help themselves given normal circumstances. Humans are significantly a pairing animal. Nature creates the need. Sure it can be subverted or missed, but that doesn’t mean it is not inherent in humans and if it is not, lack is isolated to individuals.
Maybe epidmeics of this lack are possible in sophisticated civilization but even that hasn’t proved that nature has changed.NotCranky
Participantstill photos, it just doesn’t do her justice.
Still photos are more like real life as compared to a sexy video where she shows of her star power with all the props her talent included. I doubt a real life experience with her would be much different than any other pheromone laden close encounter with someone interesting. I still think the horse is deserving of at least equal pay.To bad the horse doesn’t even know what money is and may not benefit from its breeding and regimen either.
Since you like drama and we are on the topic of equestrian things you might check out the short “Equus” based on a play.
Nice post sifo.
Thanks for the comment megabear and CARenter. It was a great party and evening.
NotCranky
Participantstill photos, it just doesn’t do her justice.
Still photos are more like real life as compared to a sexy video where she shows of her star power with all the props her talent included. I doubt a real life experience with her would be much different than any other pheromone laden close encounter with someone interesting. I still think the horse is deserving of at least equal pay.To bad the horse doesn’t even know what money is and may not benefit from its breeding and regimen either.
Since you like drama and we are on the topic of equestrian things you might check out the short “Equus” based on a play.
Nice post sifo.
Thanks for the comment megabear and CARenter. It was a great party and evening.
NotCranky
Participantstill photos, it just doesn’t do her justice.
Still photos are more like real life as compared to a sexy video where she shows of her star power with all the props her talent included. I doubt a real life experience with her would be much different than any other pheromone laden close encounter with someone interesting. I still think the horse is deserving of at least equal pay.To bad the horse doesn’t even know what money is and may not benefit from its breeding and regimen either.
Since you like drama and we are on the topic of equestrian things you might check out the short “Equus” based on a play.
Nice post sifo.
Thanks for the comment megabear and CARenter. It was a great party and evening.
NotCranky
Participantstill photos, it just doesn’t do her justice.
Still photos are more like real life as compared to a sexy video where she shows of her star power with all the props her talent included. I doubt a real life experience with her would be much different than any other pheromone laden close encounter with someone interesting. I still think the horse is deserving of at least equal pay.To bad the horse doesn’t even know what money is and may not benefit from its breeding and regimen either.
Since you like drama and we are on the topic of equestrian things you might check out the short “Equus” based on a play.
Nice post sifo.
Thanks for the comment megabear and CARenter. It was a great party and evening.
NotCranky
Participantstill photos, it just doesn’t do her justice.
Still photos are more like real life as compared to a sexy video where she shows of her star power with all the props her talent included. I doubt a real life experience with her would be much different than any other pheromone laden close encounter with someone interesting. I still think the horse is deserving of at least equal pay.To bad the horse doesn’t even know what money is and may not benefit from its breeding and regimen either.
Since you like drama and we are on the topic of equestrian things you might check out the short “Equus” based on a play.
Nice post sifo.
Thanks for the comment megabear and CARenter. It was a great party and evening.
April 11, 2008 at 9:24 PM in reply to: Anyone else see problems here? $30,000 income buys $316,000 house? #185308NotCranky
ParticipantThanks Waitinghawk,
Beautiful music and amazing skill.
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