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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]Blacks and Indians who supported the Allies learned in France by their treatment there that they could be seen as equally human, they went back to the colonies and protectorates and what not and started ending colonial rule and chipping away at oppression. Many groups of Americans refused to make progress even in a society that largely has removed barriers and has even put up incentives .
Black people themselves call that the ‘crab in the barrel syndrome” one crab tries to escape while the other pulls them back in….and with the like of progressives and conservatives too , but as much the do gooders as the “evil”, they are being pushed back in from the outside too.[/quote]
Ok. Suppose you’re correct.
That population is here. Wouldn’t it be to benefit to change the situation?
If not progressive policies, then what?[/quote]
More truth from better people…maybe the black jesus.ParticipantI din’t say one person, I said we don’t have a better alternative because the democrats don’t want to bring one forward.
ParticipantBlacks and Indians who supported the Allies learned in France by their treatment there that they could be seen as equally human, they went back to the colonies and protectorates and what not and started ending colonial rule and chipping away at oppression. Many groups of Americans refused to make progress even in a society that largely has removed barriers and has even put up incentives .
Black people themselves call that the ‘crab in the barrel syndrome” one crab tries to escape while the other pulls them back in….and with the like of progressives and conservatives too , but as much the do gooders as the “evil”, they are being pushed back in from the outside too.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]flu, it all depends on the context.
You implied Warren Buffet is a phony because he supports higher tax policies but he himself takes steps to minimize his own taxes. I think he’s very genuine and smart.
In your own private life, you can be selective. I wouldn’t date an unhealthy, uneducated woman from a bad family because I don’t want such person, and everything else that goes along, part of my life.
But I support health education and health care for the benefit of the population in general. How is that hypocrisy?
Again, what’s right for 1 person is often not good public policy. So it depends on the context.
Thinking and talking good, is better than thinking bad. What you say affect how your friends and family think, and so on. Attitudes and culture shift slowly.[/quote]
Being inept and fake is bad when you have real problems, that’s not the way to shift attitudes and culture, it is a way of entrenching the problems! It’s working really well at that.ParticipantThere wasn’t an alternative Brian because the Democrats didn’t bring one and don’t want to bring one.
You didn’t expect the republicans to bring it did you?ParticipantThe school Mike Brown went to is Normandy .
Lots of stories linked in the right margin of that page about the school the school board , rebuttals etc.
It’s true that this is a horrible school but much worse than it has to be for ANY reason…but mostly because the students are not even public high school material. They weren’t grade school material either. Where I have seen that with any race of kid it’s usually the parents behind it. When it hits critical mass education is pretty much hopeless at any expense.
I understand the food desert to a degree. But to what degree are people really trying to do something constructive about it? Grow vegetables , buy in bulk, lentils, beans, rice, potatoes, large bags of carrots, these things are a lot cheaper than fast food and easy to cook . There are liquor stores on every corner because local money will buy that. Wouldn’t it be nice if it were an alcohol desert?
There is plenty of food in ethnic immigrant areas of San Diego who actually buy ingredients and cook them .. I bet on average , .those people don’t have more money per person than other Americans who are all about the food desert.
These ethnic population in San Diego, are they going to be criminal and uneducated until the police force reflects their numbers. No they don’t do that.
You have to learn to do poor right first or you will never be equipped to struggle for better for your kids or teach them to live better. You need the liberty to bring your lineage forward but nobody can do it for you….that would be like the drug addict who wins the lottery and is broke or overdoses in no time.
America in the last few decades have really wanted to see the African American come up. Lots of help has been there. The biggest problem the phony progressives, phony civil rights people. They tell too many lies, spread blame out irresponsibly, and have too many people waiting for some never going to come day, when magically, poor people are all middle class or better and it great jobs. When you were never better than grade school material how are you going to get a pretty nice job?
Brian did his part , he voted for the phony progressive liberal in the white house now.
ParticipantI have one of the cheaper Garmins. It’s a watch ,HR monitor , maps bike rides hikes or runs for up loading and looking at the data , plus shows pace of the current mile. I phones can do it some of that too, but the watch is convenient. Also a TImex Ironman which is cheap and got good reviews on Amazon. Not a watch, but Gym boss timer is pretty good for a lot of preset on off intervals with preset times and beeper warnings, plus stop watch and some other stuff with memory…good if you need a nice wrist timer for $20.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Blogstar, so keep Furgeson one of the most segregated towns in America? Keep blacks from having representation in local government?
That’s bad for democracy, bad for business and impoverishes everybody.
You made a comparison to New Orleans saying there’s plenty of violence there, even with majority black leadership. I don’t think crime rates would be any different with white leadership governing a mostly black town. In fact, everything would be worse for everyone because business conventions and tourists would shun the city.
Look at the big picture, desegregation has been great for the South. Businesses came and more prosperity followed.
As a wise man said, “don’t judge me against the almighty, judge me against the alternative” (in this case, the alternative is the status quo that is Ferguson).[/quote]
You know I am not pushing for Ferguson to stay in any particular way regarding race.I have said several times more balanced representation seems desirable but possibly not effective at improving anything as far as standard of living of poor or crime. It should be democratic….you must have lost your mind to not get that yet.
I knew about you being a hater before and your complete lack of humanity for Afrikaners just made it impossible not to see you as a truly despicable individual. I judge you for pretending to be loving of poor blacks, also I do judge you for absolutely hating poor whites.
September 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM in reply to: How will unfunded “pensions” affect the local economy? #777939ParticipantWhy does it take 190k to make a basic cop who can then relocate?
If that number is legit….there’s your compensation. What other ordinary person get’s their career prep paid for to the tune of 190k?ParticipantHooray , the lower class white people are even lower and there are nice resorts on the cape. Is that some kind of progressive liberals wet dream?
GDP is up, the rich, black and white ,are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, black and white, just like here. Man, that country is doing great.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar] More black cops would lead to a tendency for corruption or lower desire to actually fight crime. Not because black people are inherently corrupt, but because that is the way the stimulus and pressure would guide them. The problem is how the people function much much more than how the police function. The situation is that overwhelming.
[/quote]You’ve suggested that blacks should not get proportional representation in law enforcement and perhaps in government generally.
Similar argument was made about South Africa – law and order would go to shit, and the economy would crash. The country is doing better than ever.[/quote]
That quote is a statement of opinion about what happens, not that I support apartheid. It goes with the argument I was making that some areas can’t be policed by anyone of any race. Show me where I suggested exclusion of blacks from any police force? I said where representation of blacks has occurred results are not good using crime statistics as the measure, I cited New Orleans. Other than that I have said more or less equal representation does seem desirable, I think I said that on this thread.
In SA that situation needed to change and I was always for it.
SA, the country is not doing better than ever but it is doing o.k,
Last I checked unemployment was very high, like 25%, and there was a brain drain going on. Aids is terrible in the black population not much at all in the white. The brain drain may have settled down or reversed. The brain drain was not only whites but also other ethnic groups. I hope South Africa does well but it is too soon to say.Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Blogstar, your arguments remind me of South Africa.
Today, there’s still plenty of violence in South Africa (a friend of mine was attacked), and maybe one of the most violent countries the world. But it’s a much better country that is more representative of its people. The corruption is not any worse than during the Apartheid era.
The progressive activists (unlike people like Ronald Reagan who vetoed sanctions legislation) who campaigned against Apartheid were ahead of their times; and in the end, they were proven right.[/quote]
That’s ridiculous. I guess you can’t find a place to name. not even in California or on in the North East of the country somewhere ..some place with a long liberal history? Heck it’s worse in those kinds of places.
The SIX black people beating the small man and woman in CaRenters video could easily out rank their victims in this society by wealth, employment , education, living conditions and any other measure, so quit making sickening excuses.
I have worked for dozens of black people because they were better at the job at hand than I was(not because of affirmative action), had some black teachers all throughout school. As I have said I was even in a black head of household foster home…maybe that’s why your excuses are no good. Have you ever been employed /supervised by a non-affirmative action black person or had a black teacher? You have a black president. …apartheid BS.
You might be one of those progressive liberal saints who take on all black causes but has never really had a black friend. That’s my sister and her whole family…would’t even know how to engage a black person as a friend they’d be too busy trying to save them from white oppression or probably be terrified of being beaten themselves. That would make a good skit for SNL.
ParticipantCooking was one of the most survival enabling processes that man ever engaged in. It enabled us to eat and easily digest large quantities of almost anything that had recently been alive, plant or animal and to eat things that could be stored in basically inedible forms, like rice. The implications are huge.
I like cooking.
ParticipantCooking was one of the most survival enabling processes that man ever engaged in. It enabled us to eat and easily digest large quantities of almost anything that had recently been alive, plant or animal and to eat things that could be stored in basically inedible forms, like rice. The implications are huge.
I like cooking.
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