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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]I’d be just like in the show. Trying to make peace …[/quote]
Jesus probably didn’t know that there were Inuits and Mayans and many others on the planet. Too late for them but any Jesus worth his salt today would be an internationalist. I can’t catch the black jesus because I don’t have cable but I hope he is an internationalist jesus of peace and can fix global warming.Maybe only marijuana smoke can fix the atmosphere.ParticipantWhat would you do if you were Black Jesus, Scaredy?
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]WWBJD?[/quote]
Get Brian high?
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl] Russ, you don’t have to “justify” your opinions on here to me or anyone else. You’re entitled to them as I am to mine. Our opinions are borne of our own personal life experiences.
[/quote]Personal experiences are frequently the problem. We should try reason and intellect more often.[/quote]
Poor sport.
You don’t like reality
you don’t like facts
you don’t like experience.
You make up fairy tales
enemy of logic or common sense.
You corrupt way too much of what people say.Then you claim “intellect” should do it somehow?
Looking good there buddy.
ParticipantApparent self segregation is very interesting. I say apparent because I am sure lack of much choice is part of it too. I bet where you don’t find it there is much less racism.Remember when Santee was almost all white?….It was very racist. Not sure I agree that just because the generations pass there will be a lot of difference in racial bias where heavy segregation exists. I hope you are right though.
For the hell of it a few months ago I looked up an old navy shipmate on Facebook. I see that he has moved back to his very segregated residential community and all black church. Lot of white and black people live non-segregated for the first time ever in the Navy. Still black people mostly made up their own groups at the mess halls. I bet they still do.
Anyway , I know my old friend is not racist at all. I just wonder what that is like living in segregation.ParticipantProblems like we are talking about really make me think we are a lot more like ants then one would think. It’s very hard to move out of a caste once it is set , the cops are like a certain type of ant , the poor are like a certain type of ant, the wealthy and powerful are like a certain type of ant and they soothe the rest with platitudes for as long as it works and only acquiesce to any thing their “inferiors” want in “progress”to the very minimal degree to maintain things in the colony…nothing else will ever get done regardless of what kind of political arrangement mask is put over the colony….the composition of the lowly may gradually shift but it is not ever very fast. When it looks like it’s changing fast , or is supposed to , like with abolition, or the bolshevik revolution it isn’t. There in nothing in our society that makes me think it will ever conduct itself outside of this kind of model.
ParticipantPart of the discussion here is about large groups of poor people stuck in a rut. Blame me for that it’s o.k. We have discussed racial aspects of that due to the thread being about the black people of Ferguson, crime, white cops , education, poverty, and other things.Don’t forget the Black Jesus.
Race is part of the context of what has been said. That said, I wouldn’t be too impressed if Laura Bush had been passionate about gardening either. I will be impressed when the poverty , violence and misery of large groups of people is improving not getting worse.Brian, I have never been against welfare in my life. I would never say,” grow your own vegetables and get off welfare”. I think the way it worked out debilitating lots of people was due to negative policies.. The grow your vegetables commentary was about the some what irresponsible food desert comments and I said what the response would be from many people in the “food desert” based on my having lived in one with decendants of slaves ,if you suggested they grow their own vegetables. I think many people would still say it. BG, Lots of the white people would make excuses too, even in my family. Too be even fairer to me, which is totally appropriate, the food desert was brought out as a black equality issue when it came out in the public.
Like I said before,Brian, I don’t know where you get these ideas about what I said…other than maybe knee jerk reactions or maybe being a troll. Reminds me of the time Sdrealtor and others got tired of you, and you got kicked off the blog.
ParticipantStage political stunt garden. Like the Bush’s reading to grade school kids when the cameras were on. First lady image stuff.
Really though , congratulations to Michelle if she is out there tending an nice “pottage”! Who dug all the beds for her? That costs a lot in either energy or time to get built maybe Obama broke out the rototiller?
On the rest of it you are shirking and pointing fingers again ,B.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Thing is the cop doesn’t have the right to make the law. The standard for killing is very high.
I think the hypocrisy is that people who support the cop normally feel that “life is sacred” is a standard we ought to live by.[/quote]
If the cop wasn’t outside of the law I don’t think he should be crucified. I can think life is sacred or not and it doesn’t change that. IF the cop was within the law and was in a do or die or nearly do or die situation but within the law, the only thing he could have done better is never join the Ferguson police force with the problems in that community. I think that standard is too high.Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Blogstar, like I said before, the establishment is self perpetuating. It can be bent in a certain direction. But you can’t expect one person to change everything.
Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt are examples of Presidents who have changed our society for the better. I think there’s a book/movie coming out.
More specifically about Ferguson, what’s wrong with making a point that shooting unarmed citizens is not acceptable in America? How is that fake?
Maybe the cop is made an example. But we do harshly punish people to make examples for deterrence purposes.
Yes, thinking does affect behavior. Maybe I’m being fake, but I choose not to think that Brown deserved to be killed because he was a low-life. Maybe I am arrogant and condescending towards low-class people of all races, but I would never think they deserve to be shot.
BTW, in the old days, before we had laws from everything, community reproach and condescension is how people were kept in check and behaving to community standards. I guess that was the conservative way![/quote]
Maybe the cop wanted to make an example of why you shouldn’t be a thug? What a rediculous Idea to railroad that cop for all the cultural problems he was surrounded by. Punishing people to make an example, or to appease wrong people and wrong thinking, is wrong no matter how often it is done.
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ParticipantAt least one more thing Brian, back to the Afrikaners, before you go hating on them for being lousy at being white, read what the British did to their ancestors and how little harm they were doing to the original inhabitants of the the cape of which there were actually not many.
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