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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Ebola is all about science. All the medical and scientific experts I’ve heard said that we’ve handled Ebola very well so far, with some mistake we’ve learned from.[/quote]
O.k very unlike Ferguson then.ParticipantWhatever you do KEV, get unstuck. Don’t go around being presentable and moping and thinking about ways to find the perfect one. Get a couple or ladies of interest and keep your eye out for more, not necessarily sexual conquest, though that’s ok. , just not the focus, it will take care of itself. but just get out there with women who are available. If they are not take them away from somebody.Have you said Hi or Hello or what’s up hot stuff to anyone that caught your eye? Come back and talk to us about THEM not your EX.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar][quote=outtamojo][quote=FlyerInHi]Who exactly is “they”?
We have a decentralized, disparate, private health care system. But a few cases of ebola, and we want the government to swoop-in and instantly control the whole situation.
It seems me like an opportunity not to be wasted.[/quote]
Political nutjobs please stay away. This is, or should be, all about safe handling of ebola cases and not getting anyone killed due to inadequate processes.[/quote]
Not much different than the Ferguson case , Brian, not at all.[/quote]Yes, I can definitely see your point. Same but different. The devil’s in the details.[/quote]
You know I was with you until you added that bit about devils and details. Both are serious matters though.ParticipantNot to say that stay at home parents can’t expose their children to a great diversity of mentors, but if they are doing that like they should, they really should not get paid much for it because that money goes to the mentoring programs that working parents provide for their children.
Same 8 year old is in chess club, garden club and soccer with a diversity of mentors and with the best of peers. A working parent gets that done almost as easily as I do but is purchasing power productive much more so than I am in the meantime.
Take away the cleaning and my high priced sex, I am near as good of a SAHP as there is. WIth 3 kids, I am worth no more than the 30k including What vegetables I grow for seasonal eating and putting up because I do that on a pretty large scale, more than most working parents could do. The vegetable growing is a very low paying job on an hourly basis so it isn’t much. I do car repairs and take care of 20 acres in a pretty minimal fashion….keep a safe fire zone.
Participant[quote=outtamojo][quote=FlyerInHi]Who exactly is “they”?
We have a decentralized, disparate, private health care system. But a few cases of ebola, and we want the government to swoop-in and instantly control the whole situation.
It seems me like an opportunity not to be wasted.[/quote]
Political nutjobs please stay away. This is, or should be, all about safe handling of ebola cases and not getting anyone killed due to inadequate processes.[/quote]
Not much different than the Ferguson case , Brian, not at all.ParticipantToday I decided when I went to the gym, that instead of walking or running on the treadmill, I would strut at 4mph. Right away two females jumped on the treadmills to the left an right of me even thought he place was practically empty.
You should try that KEV.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=Blogstar]I am impressed watching how fast the shine fades from people. Most my kids parents are younger, so I was meeting them and seeing them taking kids to kindergarten when they were 30-35ish. They looked so great.
7 years has knocked quite a bit off. Not saying people turned ugly like Dorian Grey. A lot of people are holding it together , but peaking in poise and beauty at 30 and showing signs of having been on the downward slide for several years at 40 is scary.It does happen faster with poor people in general but these aren’t poor people and it’s getting them.
Some pretty drastic cases even when there is no weight gain.[/quote]
Hormones are the downfall of men as well . For blue collar working men it can shorten their ability to make a living. I think that should wipe out any stay at
Nothing kills beauty like changing hormones. Yes, it can affect women in their late 30s and early 40s. Lucky us. :([/quote]Hormones are the downfall of men as well. For blue collar working men it can shorten their ability to make a living. If they have a sahm wife she should pay him for that.
ParticipantMy youngest blogstar jr. Is going to be 8 in dec.
My kids do not need a two parent household let alone a sahp. It has nothing to do with them. They get zero benefit out of my wife and I sharing a bedroom and little out of us sharing the rest of the house day after day.What they need,
More and better mentoring. More quality time with peers and to continue to know both biological untts are crazy about them and will always be there.
What they need from their mom and I they could get with us living in separate households if we didn’t break up in a melodramatic fool fashion and play stupid hate games and victim games for years on end.That’s not to say I am anti-family but at this point where reasonableness and respect would be involved anyway , it’s not that important.
ParticipantCaRenter, You will just say any darn thing with complete disrespect of balance and objectivity and most of all men’s side of things. To me that’s anti-child and anti-family.
You can see here for instance that Warren Farrell a real Pariah.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rahimkanani/2011/09/05/the-need-to-create-a-white-house-council-on-boys-to-men/Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar][quote=CA renter][quote=Blogstar]What control does any outside party have over what a sahm gets for her services? When would it ever make a difference what you think your work and sex are worth monetarily? How could anyone possibly destroy what you are doing with any agenda? This all sounds paranoid and weird. The whole thing looks like it’s based in some insecurity about justifying your existence.
I know a few stay at home moms and I can’t think of one who would be want to be caught dead talking like you do. Do you have friends who are all into sharing these ideas?[/quote]
Like I’ve said, Russ, I’ve spent years studying family formation trends and their economic effects on families and society. I don’t get my opinions from friends, I get them as a result of doing a lot of research. That’s why I know about Warren Farrell and Ann Crittenden, among many others who research and write about these topics.
How do these people affect what SAHPs get for their services? They actively work to change laws that were put in place to protect SAHPs — alimony, child support/custody, community property, etc. They have been chipping away at these protections for years. There is no paranoia on my part, but there is a lot of ignorance on your part, Russ.[/quote]
That’s the way it looks to me.
Are your views even in anyone else’s ballpark?[/quote]i was bearish on housing, the markets…but somehow I myself was bullish on marriage, without any prenups.
not sure where my optimism and faith sprang from…[/quote]
Like with the parent who chose you to be the babysitter. You made the right choice to go in that way. I am still undoing some of the damage I did by going in more the Carenter way.ParticipantYou are entitled to play out the war between men and women with your husband in your own particular way, I see some of your concerns as valid. Take away the little slip into being judgemental and BG is doing great, She has great periphereal vision on the topic compared to your bubble.
If you were not exaggerating, male bashing and selling sex it might be easier to
see it differently too.Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=Blogstar]What control does any outside party have over what a sahm gets for her services? When would it ever make a difference what you think your work and sex are worth monetarily? How could anyone possibly destroy what you are doing with any agenda? This all sounds paranoid and weird. The whole thing looks like it’s based in some insecurity about justifying your existence.
I know a few stay at home moms and I can’t think of one who would be want to be caught dead talking like you do. Do you have friends who are all into sharing these ideas?[/quote]
Like I’ve said, Russ, I’ve spent years studying family formation trends and their economic effects on families and society. I don’t get my opinions from friends, I get them as a result of doing a lot of research. That’s why I know about Warren Farrell and Ann Crittenden, among many others who research and write about these topics.
How do these people affect what SAHPs get for their services? They actively work to change laws that were put in place to protect SAHPs — alimony, child support/custody, community property, etc. They have been chipping away at these protections for years. There is no paranoia on my part, but there is a lot of ignorance on your part, Russ.[/quote]
That’s the way it looks to me.
Are your views even in anyone else’s ballpark?ParticipantWhat control does any outside party have over what a sahm gets for her services? When would it ever make a difference what you think your work and sex are worth monetarily? How could anyone possibly destroy what you are doing with any agenda? This all sounds paranoid and weird. The whole thing looks like it’s based in some insecurity about justifying your existence.
I know a few stay at home moms and I can’t think of one who would be want to be caught dead talking like you do. Do you have friends who are all into sharing these ideas?
ParticipantHow does this work out in real life CAR, does your husband pay you? Does he know how much the fees for taking a shirt to the cleaners is, or how much sex costs? Are you putting the money in a separate savings account somehow protected from community laws? If not what’s the point in worrying about it?
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