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njtosd
Participant[quote=ucodegen]Why didn’t the girls call police when the first few forced their way in? Call police, then your daughter and friends should have started taking pictures.
Then hand the pictures to the police and let them track the people down. If one of the people there was the person who set it all up – then there would be leads…
Personally, I think one of the girls thought it would be ‘fun’, but it quickly got out of hand. This is probably why the delay in the police. I think they would have immediately called if the forceful entry was a complete surprise.
I vote for video security system – hide the controller and hard drives that the system uses (don’t use attic because the heat damages electronic hardware)[/quote]
1. This was not my daughter. I met only one of the girls years ago. If they are juveniles we won’t get much more info, but I will try.
2. Who said police were delayed or that the girls didn’t call right away? There is an ongoing problem of slow response, btw.njtosd
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=njtosd]… Many brought in alcohol, and ransacked our house while my daughter and her friends were completely helpless and defenseless. …[/quote]
I must have missed the part where the uninvited guests also stole their daughter’s cell phone so she couldn’t call 911, and blocked her path to the neighbor’s house so she couldn’t get help next door.
Don’t doubt there were uninvited guests. Do doubt the amount of resistance that was put up.
And if it had happened to several other neighbors before, why hadn’t they talked to their kids about the appropriate response should it happen to them?[/quote]
No one said they didn’t call 911, nor do I have any info about how long it took police to get there. My guess is that it was not very fast. I personally had not heard of anything like this before.
njtosd
Participant[quote=ltsdd]mm has a good point. Unless these 80-100 kids were all ninjas, I would expect someone else in the ‘hood would have seen or heard them.[/quote]
We saw it, we just didn’t realize what was going on.
njtosd
Participant[quote=moneymaker]A few cameras might be appropriate as I don’t know if I would believe the teenage girls story or not, in any case cameras that record would have shed some light on the truth.[/quote]
Cameras – yes. I don’t think this girl is the type (for many reasons) but you never know. It reminds me a bit of the scam in big cities where one person confuses you (stuck in revolving door, trips and runs into you, etc) while the other tries to steal your wallet, phone, etc.
njtosd
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=njtosd] So I will say it again – have you actually spent any time in any of the places that you so quickly dismiss?[/quote]
I know Bloomington, Indianapolis and Columbus, OH pretty well. Columbus, IN has some nice architecture.
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In other words, “no”.
The reason you have to add so many qualifications to the ridiculous things you say is that the sweeping generalizations that you would like to believe don’t exist.
Chicago isn’t that desirable? Let’s see, the best architecture in the country, the best orchestra in the country, one of the top five art museums in the country, some of the best restaurants in the country (according to Food and Wine, Chicago, Los Angeles and NY each have only one restaurant in the top 10 http://time.com/4360535/best-restaurants-2016-food-and-wine/), Second City (the source of pretty much everyone Saturday Night Live ever made money from), the University of Chicago (fourth in the world for Nobel prizes and 10 spots above CalTech), CBOT, Mercantile Exchange and actual MANUFACTURING rather than all of the funny money that exists on the coasts. Who’d want to live there?
Show me one, just one, study that backs up what you say. Your pronouncements are never very data driven – mostly Brian driven. And we know what you think – how about some facts?
njtosd
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]njtosd, I was making a broad statement. University towns are included in what I mean by desirable cities.
In fact I have a cousin who works at Indiana university. And I know that cook engineering is there. It’s an ok town. Very boring! But guess what? University towns are expensive![/quote]You didn’t say desirable cities. You said “coastal gateway cities”. By gateway I assume you mean major arrival departure points. Other than Chicago, the places that I mentioned really don’t qualify.
Re: Bloomington being expensive – it sounds horrible with a cost of living 7.9% below the national average: http://www.forbes.com/places/in/bloomington/ and a lower than average crime rate. Or University towns generally – speaking of the MM house in another thread at 850,000 – this house in AA looks like a steal, especially when you figure in the quality of the schools and the classmates that inhabit them: http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Ann-Arbor-MI/24702999_zpid/8097_rid/4-_beds/42.289858,-83.756987,42.278126,-83.772436_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/
Your “oh, I have a cousin” comment reminds me of a line from Holidays in Hell by PJ O’Rourke. Cab occupant in Lebanon says “why are they leveling an anti-tank gun at us?” to which the cab driver responds “Oh yes, I have a cousin in Detroit!”. Same level of responsiveness. So I will say it again – have you actually spent any time in any of the places that you so quickly dismiss?
njtosd
Participant[quote=harvey]Clue me in. Is something going to happen in 62 days?
(Too lazy to calculate the exact date…)[/quote]
Nothing other than the election.
njtosd
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]
Again, it depends where. Educated people and immigrants want to be in and around coastal gateway cities.
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Brian – I just shouldn’t read stuff you write because my blood pressure spikes every time one of your ridiculous statements dribbles onto one of these threads. Have you ever been to Chicago? Or Ann Arbor? Or Detroit or anywhere other than the coasts?Frankly, it’s easier to find smart, well educated people in many areas of the Midwest than it is around here. Do you know where the TOP school for musicians is in the country??? I’m sure you would say New York or maybe Los Angeles where the coastal intelligentsia congregate. But no, the answer is Bloomington, Indiana – (University of Michigan is in the top 5, just behind Julliard). In fact, just took a look and, according to the FIRST article I pulled up, Ann Arbor is the most educated city in the country http://www.forbes.com/pictures/fjle45iglg/no-1-most-educated-city-/
You remind me of New Jerseyans who would say “Jersey is the BEST”. And then you’d ask them if they ever lived anywhere else and they’d say no. Just once, please evaluate one of your ridiculous pronouncements before it makes its way here.
njtosd
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano][quote=ucodegen][quote=Rich Toscano]
Again I don’t understand what for-profit or mainstream media has to do with this subject. Piggington is a free discussion forum, it’s just a whole different kettle of fish.[/quote]Newsprint’s success (financial) these days is oriented around popularity, not critical content. Good critical content can be very unpopular. If your publication is not ‘popular’, you don’t get advertising revenue…
When someone’s content is rated on popularity, we risk going down the same route the results in quick sound-bites without much thought put into it. As someone else has stated, one can just filter a particular person out if they tend to produce more noise than signal.
However – these are just my opinions – can’t tell you what you must do with your website. I hope you read the full referenced posting though. I have many more on the risk that rating to popularity has on informed discussion.
I’ve seen blog sites degrade into the comment quality that yahoo has when ‘popularity’ upvote/downvote is added. Commenters spend less time on thinking about it and vote on ‘like’. Postings tend to get shorter and more inflammatory and less ‘thinking’ time is used before posting.
Right now, one needs to think things through or one will just get their arguments ‘ripped apart’. With upvote/downvote, one can write something really stupid but won’t get their position ripped apart. Just a lot of downvotes, which some people seem to like to get (any number of votes shows attention over posting something and getting zero votes either way)
[quote=Rich Toscano]My personal view is that there is a wide range in quality of postings here, and I would love to have a way to sort based on how high quality the community as a whole thinks postings are.[/quote]
You are assuming that the votes will be based uniformly on quality vs popularity. I think that is part of the mistake.[/quote]Thanks for clarifying. Definitely some good points in there worth thinking about.[/quote]
FWIW – not that it is likely to be an issue for this website, but . . . . Rich – you might want to think about the Digital Millennium Copyright Right Act at least a little. Basically – the less a web host directly interacts in a *non-automated* way (i.e. personally deciding what or who ends up on the blog) the more likely the host is to maintain the safe harbor provisions of the DMCA if there were ever to be any copyright protected components ending up here.
Not intended to be legal advice – just something to think about.
njtosd
Participant[quote=harvey]Kissinger’s record was impressive.
Just don’t mention the mounds of corpses in Southeast Asia.[/quote]
He didn’t even become Nixon’s national security advisor until 1968. Kennedy and Johnson and Nixon had a lot to do with those mounds.
njtosd
ParticipantRavenswood Zinfandel. Always delicious and I’ve been able to buy it at Vons for about $5 at times. Just came back from book club – someone brought expensive wine but it was wasted on me …
njtosd
Participant[quote=harvey]Can you name anything of significance any Secretary of State has ever done?
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Well, there was Henry Kissinger ……. Detente, Paris Accord, etc etc.
njtosd
Participant[quote=Reality][quote=scaredyclassic]59
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Me too but I’m not upset about it. Seems realistic as opposed to those who are either kidding themselves or trying to impress others on the board.[/quote]
If scaredy is a 59 I don’t want to know what I would be. I am curious about at least one of the reported scores . . .
August 25, 2016 at 2:27 PM in reply to: OT: Chinese Airline Companies offering $300k+ for pilots…. #800871njtosd
Participant[quote=bullishgurl]
A 30 minute phone screen usually flushes out who is real and who is a fake. We also have an online submission process directly.[/quote]
Hmm. Maybe I didn’t say it right. It’s not a matter of the applicants being fake – it’s a matter of the software missing (a lot) of qualified applicants. The fake resume is a positive control to see if they will actually capture the people you want.
If the resumes can get through without going through the screening software then I guess it doesn’t matter. In your case if there aren’t many people for the positions you don’t have to wade through much. Just a thought.
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