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August 17, 2016 at 8:55 PM #22095August 17, 2016 at 9:04 PM #800706SK in CVParticipant
How much do pilots make from US airlines? I knew pilots that made >$250K 25 years ago. I know that a lot of them took a pay cut, but are they still not back to where they were?August 18, 2016 at 5:30 AM #800713
Huge pilot shortage everywhere. Have friends who have been flying abroad for years and have been raking it in.
Some tried commuting, and couldn’t stand it. Others moved–some with their families–and couldn’t stand it, but stayed for the money, and still others have stayed and and really enjoy it. Never appealed to me, since we have too many other things going on here.
Income in the states varies by the carrier, whether you fly domestic or international, union contracts, etc., but $300K+ is not uncommon per the above, at certain levels of seniority.August 18, 2016 at 6:34 AM #800714scaredyclassicParticipant
self driving planes seem way less complex than self driving cars.
is that a developping technology?August 18, 2016 at 7:07 AM #800716AnonymousGuest
[quote=SK in CV]How much do pilots make from US airlines? I knew pilots that made >$250K 25 years ago. I know that a lot of them took a pay cut, but are they still not back to where they were?[/quote]
I have a few friends/neighbors who are airline pilots, some of them recently retired. The impression I got from all of them was the good-ol’ days of being a pilot are long gone. One of them that I know well says that it downright sucks these days.
Maybe it’s a boom/bust type of career. But I’m always wary of reports of booms coming from China…August 18, 2016 at 10:12 AM #800723
Yes, the UAV aka drone scene is exploding. As a guy with my pilot license, I’m adding on my commercial drone rating since drone pilots are also in demand.August 18, 2016 at 2:50 PM #800734zkParticipant
[quote=scaredyclassic]self driving planes seem way less complex than self driving cars.
is that a developping technology?[/quote]
There’s an old joke among airline pilots. Background: There used to be 3 pilots in a lot of airliners. There are only 2 in most of them now. Automation has vastly reduced the workload. Even 2 are rarely necessary.
Pretty soon, there will be only one pilot and one dog in the cockpit. The pilot will be there to feed the dog, and the dog will be there to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything.
It’s not a funny joke, but it indicates the direction automation is taking things. Planes can already fly and land themselves quite easily. And the technology no doubt exists to replace pilots altogether for routine flights. But, in real life, for flying people around, you’ll always need at the very least one pilot on board. When the shit hits the fan, no computer can replace the judgment of a human being. Better yet, 2 human beings.August 18, 2016 at 3:06 PM #800735
True but in the long run robots will replace most of us the way things are headed.August 18, 2016 at 4:22 PM #800736
“But, in real life, for flying people around, you’ll always need at the very least one pilot on board. When the shit hits the fan, no computer can replace the judgment of a human being. Better yet, 2 human beings.”
True. Just ask my buddy Sully.August 18, 2016 at 4:37 PM #800737AnonymousGuest
The biggest challenge to autonomous passenger planes is going to be finding willing passengers.August 18, 2016 at 8:55 PM #800740zkParticipant
There’s a guy who earned every nickel he ever made in his career and then some, all with one decision. A lot of times you hear, “the pilot was a hero,” when all he did was what any pilot could’ve and would’ve done. But this was different. A brilliant, timely decision, made coolly under massive pressure. I don’t think most pilots would’ve made that decision. “Hero” is a pretty nebulous word, but, to me, Captain Sullenberger showed us what the very best pilots do: Make great and timely decisions when lives are on the line.
Of course, for every Sully, there’s an Air France 447 pilot and a Colgan 3407 pilot and a Comair 5191 pilot. They’re the weak link a lot of the time, precisely because they’re human. But they still have something that is both unachievable by a computer and necessary.August 18, 2016 at 9:05 PM #800741scaredyclassicParticipant
[quote=harvey]The biggest challenge to autonomous passenger planes is going to be finding willing passengers.[/quote]
10 perc coupon and im thereAugust 18, 2016 at 10:02 PM #800742ltsdddParticipant
Most modern planes could fly and land on their own. Pilots are there pretty much for take-offs and taxiing.August 19, 2016 at 5:16 AM #800743
The nice thing about being an airline pilot, at least for me, is that for many years I’ve been able to bid a schedule that allows me to work only about 8 days a month at full compensation with union benefits, which has left me with a great deal of time to pursue other interests–family, real estate investment projects, film investment projects, etc.–So no complaints here.August 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM #800772
Yup at one point years ago, the airline pilot was a sweet gig. Not so much anymore from the ones I talk with.
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