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[quote=scaredyclassic]isnt acting civilized just what people do to get what they need or want? we call ourselves civilized, but we play by the rules of the day, just like every other poor slob for 1000s of years. our nature is no different or better. society may be more or less efficient, or violent, but we, we are the same, playing the game to live and breed.

i can imagine a distant relative of mine from a.d. 700, living in some shitty town g-d knows where, just trying to make it in society, same as me.

im no better or worse than he is, in my nature.

so, if the rules allowed a particlar man many sex partners, i would say his nature would likely be in accord with that. now, in ad 700, and forever into the past and future[/quote]

To act civilized and to exist as a civilization requires certain things; one of which is social mores. The act of having numerous sex partners throughout the day goes against current mores. America is more civilized than ancient cultures because we are better than the past. These laws and social mores allow us to create new technology, eat and sleep comfortably, not have to worry about our personal safety, which allows us to have the longest life expectancies in the Earth’s glorious history.

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[quote=scaredyclassic]

what makes a society more “moral”?[/quote]

Well it seems there is a lot going on here with no correct answers considering the question is personal and philosophical in nature. My answer was regarding the term “civilized”, which by definition involves advanced and a humane culture. Personally, I don’t think most people would agree that having multiple sex partners throughout the day would be considered a “civilized” way to act. In addition, I think that most people would agree that civilization has gone a long way from the feudal age and ghengis khan.

Regarding tomorrow being more civilized than today. The answer is probably yes, unless we move back to the dark ages where people and technology are suppressed. Of course with Moore’s Law playing out, advancement in new technologies will bring about new and more advanced moral questions such as the rights of AI and our rights as humans to claim other planets and species.

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[quote=scaredyclassic]morally developped? you mean like dropping bombs via drones on families instead of pillaging by horseback…. frankly, ghenghis sounds way more…. human.

all seems a bizarre morality charade, unrelated to real representive democracy, in which we get to pick between abillionaire who is only out for himself, and a relatively less wealthy bank and wall street representative. ill take…vermin supreme…[/quote]

Yes we are a lot more morally developed. Just because they didn’t have the technology at the time doesn’t mean they wouldn’t do it in a heartbeat. Not only that but they would rape, pillage and kill people with no moral repercussions. I don’t really think you’re making a logical argument. Regarding our options for president, they suck but could be worse…albeit not much.

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[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=yamashi][quote=scaredyclassic]if most men could have sex with any woman at any time, they likely would have sex several times per day with different women.

if this is our nature, why is his expression of it so repugnant?[/quote]

Just because it is our nature doesn’t make it right. Most civilized men with a conscience would not have sex with multiple women on a daily basis. If Trump is attacking Hillary for tolerating Bill’s behavior. It doesn’t really make Trump much better when he’s associating himself with locker room behavior.[/quote]

absolutely they would, if no repercussions, if they were king like, and if they did not, they would be lame genetically.

there would be a few uxorious lads, but in general, the king would have his way. by civilized, i think what you mean, is that society restrains them, and or nature, such that they cannot.

1 of 200 men are descendants of ghenghis khan, i read somewhere. insensitive brute.[/quote]

By civilized, I mean the definition, as in morally developed. I don’t think we can point to the times of Genghis Khan and Feudalism to determine our current and most civilized social mores.

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[quote=scaredyclassic]if most men could have sex with any woman at any time, they likely would have sex several times per day with different women.

if this is our nature, why is his expression of it so repugnant?[/quote]

Just because it is our nature doesn’t make it right. Most civilized men with a conscience would not have sex with multiple women on a daily basis. If Trump is attacking Hillary for tolerating Bill’s behavior. It doesn’t really make Trump much better when he’s associating himself with locker room behavior.

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I’m a big fan of Societe. They have great Belgians, and a good stout. Also, they let you fill up using one of those blank stainless steel growlers.

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bump…cause this is hilarious…

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[quote=scotinob]I wasn’t talking about living in OB, I was talking about San Diego City and County as whole. Trust me I understand I can’t afford to buy at the beach. My point is that all areas are getting increasingly unaffordable due mostly to the lack of supply in San Diego city and county.

I’m looking to buy a house or condo. the rent increase was a wake-up call. I found this site while doing research into prices. I felt the need to join this forum and speak up after reading so many of your comments and anti-growth sentiment. I want you to understand that there are real people that affected by your anti-growth and anti-density mentality.

Density is good, and its the only reasonable solution. Look at the cities of europe and japan, they are much more dense, and quality of life is still good. We can be more like them if people are open to it.[/quote]

I saw this graphic article in the WSJ which displays the change regarding where the rich and poor live within cities between the 70’s, 90’s and 2014 based on income.

http://graphics.wsj.com/urban-income-polarization/

Basically it verifies the new thought of where the rich and well-off want to live given their choices and uses Philadelphia, Chicago and Baltimore as examples after the shrinking of the middle-class. Yes, as noted many still like living in surburbia, but many rich are now choosing to live in the city.

Regarding being priced out of the market, San Diego’s economy kind of reminds me of when I lived in Hawaii, or Santa Barbara. The jobs here are not as plentiful or as well paying as those in LA or OC, and although housing prices is slightly less, the disparity in income makes it more burdensome for the average person/family. I’ve heard it called sunshine tax before, but it basically affects beautiful places where people want to live (creating high demand from outsiders from US and other countries) but not enough high paying jobs to allow people to stay. I know a lot of people from Hawaii in this same predicament.

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I really love the old Porsche as well. I have a 1967 912 that I absolutely love to drive. Cant afford helis or planes yet…maybe in another 20 years.

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Personally I like the new M3’s better than the old ones. Actually in the market for a used M4, which I found online for around $55k-$60k with another 25k-35k left on the warranty. I do like the Porsche’s too but I would want a turbo which would come in at another 35k. In terms of bang for buck though, I think it’s hard to beat the Nissan GTR. The only thing about those is the launch control which I heard takes a beating on the tranny. I would be worried about buying used because of that.

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Another option would be to buy a rental in another state to supplement the rents you pay for here. Places like Dallas, Houston, Denver, and even Detroit have had significant growth within the past few years. The appreciation could benefit you, and you can still enjoy the sunshine in CA.

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Kristopher,

I understand your pain as my wife and I just recently bit the bullet and finally decided to purchase a home. Growing up in the Midwest, it really is easy to get sticker shock moving out here as a $1Mn dollar home can’t really get you much. This being said, after constantly renting and saving we finally decided to settle down and buy something a few years ago. Although still not entirely happy having to deal with the maintenance, our family is no longer in limbo anymore and we have a place where we can settle for the next 10 or so years and call a home. After living in many places including LA, Scottsdale, Maui, and Santa Barbara; this is the place we ultimately wanted to end up and raise a family. Everyday when I drive to work and get home I feel blessed to be able to enjoy living where I want to, raising a family in a wonderful city, and being able to surf and golf year round. Everyone is different, but for me those things are priceless. Sure I can move back to Michigan and buy a mansion but I can’t take the weather, community, beach, and museums with me.

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[quote=Reality]I skipped my HS graduation 36 years ago. Getting through HS didn’t feel like any big achievement. Only a total screw up would not get through.

College graduation I did walk though. There I felt like I accomplished something.[/quote]

I never understood why the big deal either. My next door neighbor’s kid had a graduation party last weekend that went through the end of the night. I remember some kids in my HS having those, but my dad’s response was “Why do you need a party for graduating HS? Aren’t you only accomplishing something that should be expected? Tell you what, we’ll have one when you get a PHD.” Needless to say, still waiting for my party.

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[quote=spdrun]IRS wanted to push requirements for tax preparers, they were rightfully slapped down. You need an ID # that costs $50 and an SSN, no other requirements.

You don’t need to be a CPA to prepare Federal income tax returns. Some states might impose their own filth, of course, but there’s no Federal requirement anymore.[/quote]
I believe he also said that a CPA can also represent a client in court. They can also sign off on audits and move up in a company by becoming a partner. Which is similar to an attorney.

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[quote=bearishgurl]

No. A paralegal is a position in a law firm unto itself. Paralegal Programs are typically “Certificate Programs” lasting 1-2 years and either confer an Associate Degree or no degree. The USD program does not confer a degree, nor were the (500 level) classes I took worth credits at any university. It is an occupational certificate program, requiring a bachelor’s degree to enter it. I didn’t have to produce one because I had letters from the required number of attorneys stating that I had X amount of experience in the field and knew what I was doing.

I have never been to law school but could very well possibly pass the CA bar exam . . . with a bit of studying beforehand, of course. In any case, I would not be allowed to sit for it and that ship sailed long ago.[/quote]

So it doesn’t sound like their are very many barriers to entry. You have heard of the law of supply and demand? More supply than demand and it’s gonna be a lot of competition. Also, I apologize but with that resume it doesn’t seem like you would be on the top of most lists unless you knew someone that could give you a try. So I apologize, my prior statement comparing the paralegal position to an accountant would probably be better compared to a bookkeeper. Nothing wrong with either and they could do well working for themselves, but it’s a tough position to apply for in the corporate world with all that competition and no referral from a partner. BTW, I also question your last statement about your ability to pass the bar exam. I’m sure their are very good paralegals, but you can’t compare that to someone that has been practicing. I also hope that you didn’t tell that to people when you interviewed with them. It probably would be akin to a bookkeeper saying they could pass the CPA exam because they’ve been doing journal entries for 30 years.

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