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June 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420108June 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420340
luchabee
ParticipantThe merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?
June 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420611luchabee
ParticipantThe merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?
June 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420677luchabee
ParticipantThe merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?
June 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420838luchabee
ParticipantThe merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?
June 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420064luchabee
ParticipantIt is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.
Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html
But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?
If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.
June 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420295luchabee
ParticipantIt is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.
Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html
But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?
If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.
June 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420566luchabee
ParticipantIt is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.
Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html
But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?
If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.
June 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420632luchabee
ParticipantIt is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.
Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html
But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?
If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.
June 25, 2009 at 8:46 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420794luchabee
ParticipantIt is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.
Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html
But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?
If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.
June 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #419980luchabee
ParticipantCouldn’t say it better myself:
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/jun/25/bill-posey-pro-con-lets-call-cap-and-trade-what/
Let’s call cap and trade what it really is, a massive energy tax on every U.S. citizen.
Congress is considering legislation that has the potential to raise your energy bills significantly, along with the price of just about everything you buy.
Estimates on how much the 900-page Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade National Energy Tax legislation could cost vary, but estimates range between $750 and $3,100 per family per year. Washington typically low balls the cost of things, thinking they can get them into law before Americans know the true cost. This bill includes budget gimmicks hiding the full cost.
The plan is for the federal government to limit carbon emissions. The government will auction carbon emission permits to energy producers, refineries and factories (usually through speculators) so they can emit more carbon. Many credits are also given away to special-interest groups. The cost will then be passed onto consumers. The president’s budget included $646 billion in “cap and trade” revenue.
The idea is to purposely increase the cost of energy from fossil fuels like natural gas, coal or petroleum, about 85 percent of electricity produced. The price of everything you buy will go up, even food, because there will be a hidden national energy tax built into the price of everything.
One leading Democrat senator told the Washington Post: “This is the greatest revenue generating (tax) proposal of our time.” In other words, it’s all about taking more money away from everyday Americans so politicians can spend your money on politician’s favorite programs . . .
So, based on this article, that means there would be a tax on the American consumers equivalent to TARP that would repeat every year and likely increase.
Probably the most cynical bill since the Alien and Sedition Acts. It is unreal that Congress may pass this . . . I guess not a lot of people care. By the way, did you hear that Perez Hilton got in another fight and some politicians had affairs? Now that’s news.
June 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420211luchabee
ParticipantCouldn’t say it better myself:
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/jun/25/bill-posey-pro-con-lets-call-cap-and-trade-what/
Let’s call cap and trade what it really is, a massive energy tax on every U.S. citizen.
Congress is considering legislation that has the potential to raise your energy bills significantly, along with the price of just about everything you buy.
Estimates on how much the 900-page Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade National Energy Tax legislation could cost vary, but estimates range between $750 and $3,100 per family per year. Washington typically low balls the cost of things, thinking they can get them into law before Americans know the true cost. This bill includes budget gimmicks hiding the full cost.
The plan is for the federal government to limit carbon emissions. The government will auction carbon emission permits to energy producers, refineries and factories (usually through speculators) so they can emit more carbon. Many credits are also given away to special-interest groups. The cost will then be passed onto consumers. The president’s budget included $646 billion in “cap and trade” revenue.
The idea is to purposely increase the cost of energy from fossil fuels like natural gas, coal or petroleum, about 85 percent of electricity produced. The price of everything you buy will go up, even food, because there will be a hidden national energy tax built into the price of everything.
One leading Democrat senator told the Washington Post: “This is the greatest revenue generating (tax) proposal of our time.” In other words, it’s all about taking more money away from everyday Americans so politicians can spend your money on politician’s favorite programs . . .
So, based on this article, that means there would be a tax on the American consumers equivalent to TARP that would repeat every year and likely increase.
Probably the most cynical bill since the Alien and Sedition Acts. It is unreal that Congress may pass this . . . I guess not a lot of people care. By the way, did you hear that Perez Hilton got in another fight and some politicians had affairs? Now that’s news.
June 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420481luchabee
ParticipantCouldn’t say it better myself:
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/jun/25/bill-posey-pro-con-lets-call-cap-and-trade-what/
Let’s call cap and trade what it really is, a massive energy tax on every U.S. citizen.
Congress is considering legislation that has the potential to raise your energy bills significantly, along with the price of just about everything you buy.
Estimates on how much the 900-page Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade National Energy Tax legislation could cost vary, but estimates range between $750 and $3,100 per family per year. Washington typically low balls the cost of things, thinking they can get them into law before Americans know the true cost. This bill includes budget gimmicks hiding the full cost.
The plan is for the federal government to limit carbon emissions. The government will auction carbon emission permits to energy producers, refineries and factories (usually through speculators) so they can emit more carbon. Many credits are also given away to special-interest groups. The cost will then be passed onto consumers. The president’s budget included $646 billion in “cap and trade” revenue.
The idea is to purposely increase the cost of energy from fossil fuels like natural gas, coal or petroleum, about 85 percent of electricity produced. The price of everything you buy will go up, even food, because there will be a hidden national energy tax built into the price of everything.
One leading Democrat senator told the Washington Post: “This is the greatest revenue generating (tax) proposal of our time.” In other words, it’s all about taking more money away from everyday Americans so politicians can spend your money on politician’s favorite programs . . .
So, based on this article, that means there would be a tax on the American consumers equivalent to TARP that would repeat every year and likely increase.
Probably the most cynical bill since the Alien and Sedition Acts. It is unreal that Congress may pass this . . . I guess not a lot of people care. By the way, did you hear that Perez Hilton got in another fight and some politicians had affairs? Now that’s news.
June 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420548luchabee
ParticipantCouldn’t say it better myself:
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/jun/25/bill-posey-pro-con-lets-call-cap-and-trade-what/
Let’s call cap and trade what it really is, a massive energy tax on every U.S. citizen.
Congress is considering legislation that has the potential to raise your energy bills significantly, along with the price of just about everything you buy.
Estimates on how much the 900-page Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade National Energy Tax legislation could cost vary, but estimates range between $750 and $3,100 per family per year. Washington typically low balls the cost of things, thinking they can get them into law before Americans know the true cost. This bill includes budget gimmicks hiding the full cost.
The plan is for the federal government to limit carbon emissions. The government will auction carbon emission permits to energy producers, refineries and factories (usually through speculators) so they can emit more carbon. Many credits are also given away to special-interest groups. The cost will then be passed onto consumers. The president’s budget included $646 billion in “cap and trade” revenue.
The idea is to purposely increase the cost of energy from fossil fuels like natural gas, coal or petroleum, about 85 percent of electricity produced. The price of everything you buy will go up, even food, because there will be a hidden national energy tax built into the price of everything.
One leading Democrat senator told the Washington Post: “This is the greatest revenue generating (tax) proposal of our time.” In other words, it’s all about taking more money away from everyday Americans so politicians can spend your money on politician’s favorite programs . . .
So, based on this article, that means there would be a tax on the American consumers equivalent to TARP that would repeat every year and likely increase.
Probably the most cynical bill since the Alien and Sedition Acts. It is unreal that Congress may pass this . . . I guess not a lot of people care. By the way, did you hear that Perez Hilton got in another fight and some politicians had affairs? Now that’s news.
June 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #420710luchabee
ParticipantCouldn’t say it better myself:
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/jun/25/bill-posey-pro-con-lets-call-cap-and-trade-what/
Let’s call cap and trade what it really is, a massive energy tax on every U.S. citizen.
Congress is considering legislation that has the potential to raise your energy bills significantly, along with the price of just about everything you buy.
Estimates on how much the 900-page Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade National Energy Tax legislation could cost vary, but estimates range between $750 and $3,100 per family per year. Washington typically low balls the cost of things, thinking they can get them into law before Americans know the true cost. This bill includes budget gimmicks hiding the full cost.
The plan is for the federal government to limit carbon emissions. The government will auction carbon emission permits to energy producers, refineries and factories (usually through speculators) so they can emit more carbon. Many credits are also given away to special-interest groups. The cost will then be passed onto consumers. The president’s budget included $646 billion in “cap and trade” revenue.
The idea is to purposely increase the cost of energy from fossil fuels like natural gas, coal or petroleum, about 85 percent of electricity produced. The price of everything you buy will go up, even food, because there will be a hidden national energy tax built into the price of everything.
One leading Democrat senator told the Washington Post: “This is the greatest revenue generating (tax) proposal of our time.” In other words, it’s all about taking more money away from everyday Americans so politicians can spend your money on politician’s favorite programs . . .
So, based on this article, that means there would be a tax on the American consumers equivalent to TARP that would repeat every year and likely increase.
Probably the most cynical bill since the Alien and Sedition Acts. It is unreal that Congress may pass this . . . I guess not a lot of people care. By the way, did you hear that Perez Hilton got in another fight and some politicians had affairs? Now that’s news.
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