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November 15, 2008 at 8:24 AM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #304962November 15, 2008 at 8:24 AM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305327
luchabee
ParticipantUrbanrealtor: You missed the point.
The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.
Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.
As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought.
November 15, 2008 at 8:24 AM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305339luchabee
ParticipantUrbanrealtor: You missed the point.
The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.
Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.
As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought.
November 15, 2008 at 8:24 AM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305358luchabee
ParticipantUrbanrealtor: You missed the point.
The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.
Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.
As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought.
November 15, 2008 at 8:24 AM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305415luchabee
ParticipantUrbanrealtor: You missed the point.
The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.
Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.
As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought.
November 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #304762luchabee
ParticipantOf course, this was a tonge and check question.
However, like the republican thread, I tend to agree with the generalization. Certainly, there are concentrations of wealth in the liberal cities (not necessarily earned by liberals from business enterprises, but through inheritance, etc.)
However, I believe the stereotype of the far-left liberals residing in government, the universities, and unions is true. For every Internet start-up started by a liberal Berkeley or Standford grad., there are thousands of professors and government workers who are hardcore liberals and have never employed a person or met a payroll in their lives (thebreeze being a notable exception).
Anyway, what prompted me to ask this (in addition to the rural Republican thread) was a conversation with my young brother-in-law who is an accounting major and voted for Obama. I was a little surprised when he told me this (as we started talking about investment and corporate tax issues). Anyway, he was clueless about the Democrats’ positions on increasing various taxes (and how it would impact American businesses if enacted).
Anyway, I left with him this picture: “You know the guy who is a hardcore Obama supporter who you think is cool, smart, and trendy? Yes, well just remember that guy will probably never give you a job (instead going to graduate school to teach, etc.) . . . This made him think for a second and, after a minute thinking, he told me that every job he has ever had was given to him by a Republican.
I don’t think it is a coincidence. I have never been employed by a poor person or liberal either, especially one who started the business.
Just some food for thought . . .
November 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305127luchabee
ParticipantOf course, this was a tonge and check question.
However, like the republican thread, I tend to agree with the generalization. Certainly, there are concentrations of wealth in the liberal cities (not necessarily earned by liberals from business enterprises, but through inheritance, etc.)
However, I believe the stereotype of the far-left liberals residing in government, the universities, and unions is true. For every Internet start-up started by a liberal Berkeley or Standford grad., there are thousands of professors and government workers who are hardcore liberals and have never employed a person or met a payroll in their lives (thebreeze being a notable exception).
Anyway, what prompted me to ask this (in addition to the rural Republican thread) was a conversation with my young brother-in-law who is an accounting major and voted for Obama. I was a little surprised when he told me this (as we started talking about investment and corporate tax issues). Anyway, he was clueless about the Democrats’ positions on increasing various taxes (and how it would impact American businesses if enacted).
Anyway, I left with him this picture: “You know the guy who is a hardcore Obama supporter who you think is cool, smart, and trendy? Yes, well just remember that guy will probably never give you a job (instead going to graduate school to teach, etc.) . . . This made him think for a second and, after a minute thinking, he told me that every job he has ever had was given to him by a Republican.
I don’t think it is a coincidence. I have never been employed by a poor person or liberal either, especially one who started the business.
Just some food for thought . . .
November 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305139luchabee
ParticipantOf course, this was a tonge and check question.
However, like the republican thread, I tend to agree with the generalization. Certainly, there are concentrations of wealth in the liberal cities (not necessarily earned by liberals from business enterprises, but through inheritance, etc.)
However, I believe the stereotype of the far-left liberals residing in government, the universities, and unions is true. For every Internet start-up started by a liberal Berkeley or Standford grad., there are thousands of professors and government workers who are hardcore liberals and have never employed a person or met a payroll in their lives (thebreeze being a notable exception).
Anyway, what prompted me to ask this (in addition to the rural Republican thread) was a conversation with my young brother-in-law who is an accounting major and voted for Obama. I was a little surprised when he told me this (as we started talking about investment and corporate tax issues). Anyway, he was clueless about the Democrats’ positions on increasing various taxes (and how it would impact American businesses if enacted).
Anyway, I left with him this picture: “You know the guy who is a hardcore Obama supporter who you think is cool, smart, and trendy? Yes, well just remember that guy will probably never give you a job (instead going to graduate school to teach, etc.) . . . This made him think for a second and, after a minute thinking, he told me that every job he has ever had was given to him by a Republican.
I don’t think it is a coincidence. I have never been employed by a poor person or liberal either, especially one who started the business.
Just some food for thought . . .
November 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305158luchabee
ParticipantOf course, this was a tonge and check question.
However, like the republican thread, I tend to agree with the generalization. Certainly, there are concentrations of wealth in the liberal cities (not necessarily earned by liberals from business enterprises, but through inheritance, etc.)
However, I believe the stereotype of the far-left liberals residing in government, the universities, and unions is true. For every Internet start-up started by a liberal Berkeley or Standford grad., there are thousands of professors and government workers who are hardcore liberals and have never employed a person or met a payroll in their lives (thebreeze being a notable exception).
Anyway, what prompted me to ask this (in addition to the rural Republican thread) was a conversation with my young brother-in-law who is an accounting major and voted for Obama. I was a little surprised when he told me this (as we started talking about investment and corporate tax issues). Anyway, he was clueless about the Democrats’ positions on increasing various taxes (and how it would impact American businesses if enacted).
Anyway, I left with him this picture: “You know the guy who is a hardcore Obama supporter who you think is cool, smart, and trendy? Yes, well just remember that guy will probably never give you a job (instead going to graduate school to teach, etc.) . . . This made him think for a second and, after a minute thinking, he told me that every job he has ever had was given to him by a Republican.
I don’t think it is a coincidence. I have never been employed by a poor person or liberal either, especially one who started the business.
Just some food for thought . . .
November 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM in reply to: Have you ever been employed by a poor person or a liberal? #305216luchabee
ParticipantOf course, this was a tonge and check question.
However, like the republican thread, I tend to agree with the generalization. Certainly, there are concentrations of wealth in the liberal cities (not necessarily earned by liberals from business enterprises, but through inheritance, etc.)
However, I believe the stereotype of the far-left liberals residing in government, the universities, and unions is true. For every Internet start-up started by a liberal Berkeley or Standford grad., there are thousands of professors and government workers who are hardcore liberals and have never employed a person or met a payroll in their lives (thebreeze being a notable exception).
Anyway, what prompted me to ask this (in addition to the rural Republican thread) was a conversation with my young brother-in-law who is an accounting major and voted for Obama. I was a little surprised when he told me this (as we started talking about investment and corporate tax issues). Anyway, he was clueless about the Democrats’ positions on increasing various taxes (and how it would impact American businesses if enacted).
Anyway, I left with him this picture: “You know the guy who is a hardcore Obama supporter who you think is cool, smart, and trendy? Yes, well just remember that guy will probably never give you a job (instead going to graduate school to teach, etc.) . . . This made him think for a second and, after a minute thinking, he told me that every job he has ever had was given to him by a Republican.
I don’t think it is a coincidence. I have never been employed by a poor person or liberal either, especially one who started the business.
Just some food for thought . . .
luchabee
Participant“I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.”
That’s strange. I thought you owned your own business, thebreeze? You don’t work those hours?
FWIW, my dad is not a plumber, but an electrician, and he works pretty close to those hours, running his own business . . . sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less (but not often). He has been working these hours for about 10 years.
He doesn’t make anywhere close to $250,000 (probably $60,000 net), so he will not be affected by Obama’s plan or have to lay off people for this new proposed spending. Unfortunately, he had to let his two employees go a long time ago as it wasn’t profitable enough to keep them with all the taxes, paperwork, and insurance and they were too slow and barely employable. Don’t worry, though, we probably are paying their social security and unemployment now, so they are all taken care of.
It comes down to this, if liberals were ever forced to run their own business for one year(and I know that you do, from what you said) and subsist on their earnings, 75% of them would instantly become Republicans.
Really, Obama’s plan if enacted (God help us) would be like feeding rat poison to a patient in intensive care.
Yes, maybe some will get a nice tax-cut or tax credit for a few hundred dollars (maybe a thousand!), but their jobs will be gone to pay for these ridiculous spending programs.
Personally, I’d rather have a job, but that’s just me.
luchabee
Participant“I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.”
That’s strange. I thought you owned your own business, thebreeze? You don’t work those hours?
FWIW, my dad is not a plumber, but an electrician, and he works pretty close to those hours, running his own business . . . sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less (but not often). He has been working these hours for about 10 years.
He doesn’t make anywhere close to $250,000 (probably $60,000 net), so he will not be affected by Obama’s plan or have to lay off people for this new proposed spending. Unfortunately, he had to let his two employees go a long time ago as it wasn’t profitable enough to keep them with all the taxes, paperwork, and insurance and they were too slow and barely employable. Don’t worry, though, we probably are paying their social security and unemployment now, so they are all taken care of.
It comes down to this, if liberals were ever forced to run their own business for one year(and I know that you do, from what you said) and subsist on their earnings, 75% of them would instantly become Republicans.
Really, Obama’s plan if enacted (God help us) would be like feeding rat poison to a patient in intensive care.
Yes, maybe some will get a nice tax-cut or tax credit for a few hundred dollars (maybe a thousand!), but their jobs will be gone to pay for these ridiculous spending programs.
Personally, I’d rather have a job, but that’s just me.
luchabee
Participant“I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.”
That’s strange. I thought you owned your own business, thebreeze? You don’t work those hours?
FWIW, my dad is not a plumber, but an electrician, and he works pretty close to those hours, running his own business . . . sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less (but not often). He has been working these hours for about 10 years.
He doesn’t make anywhere close to $250,000 (probably $60,000 net), so he will not be affected by Obama’s plan or have to lay off people for this new proposed spending. Unfortunately, he had to let his two employees go a long time ago as it wasn’t profitable enough to keep them with all the taxes, paperwork, and insurance and they were too slow and barely employable. Don’t worry, though, we probably are paying their social security and unemployment now, so they are all taken care of.
It comes down to this, if liberals were ever forced to run their own business for one year(and I know that you do, from what you said) and subsist on their earnings, 75% of them would instantly become Republicans.
Really, Obama’s plan if enacted (God help us) would be like feeding rat poison to a patient in intensive care.
Yes, maybe some will get a nice tax-cut or tax credit for a few hundred dollars (maybe a thousand!), but their jobs will be gone to pay for these ridiculous spending programs.
Personally, I’d rather have a job, but that’s just me.
luchabee
Participant“I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.”
That’s strange. I thought you owned your own business, thebreeze? You don’t work those hours?
FWIW, my dad is not a plumber, but an electrician, and he works pretty close to those hours, running his own business . . . sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less (but not often). He has been working these hours for about 10 years.
He doesn’t make anywhere close to $250,000 (probably $60,000 net), so he will not be affected by Obama’s plan or have to lay off people for this new proposed spending. Unfortunately, he had to let his two employees go a long time ago as it wasn’t profitable enough to keep them with all the taxes, paperwork, and insurance and they were too slow and barely employable. Don’t worry, though, we probably are paying their social security and unemployment now, so they are all taken care of.
It comes down to this, if liberals were ever forced to run their own business for one year(and I know that you do, from what you said) and subsist on their earnings, 75% of them would instantly become Republicans.
Really, Obama’s plan if enacted (God help us) would be like feeding rat poison to a patient in intensive care.
Yes, maybe some will get a nice tax-cut or tax credit for a few hundred dollars (maybe a thousand!), but their jobs will be gone to pay for these ridiculous spending programs.
Personally, I’d rather have a job, but that’s just me.
luchabee
Participant“I’ve heard enough about this Joe the Plumber character. I guess he is supposed to embody the middle class or something. And whoever heard of a plumber who works 10-12 hour days 7 days a week? What a crock of shit.”
That’s strange. I thought you owned your own business, thebreeze? You don’t work those hours?
FWIW, my dad is not a plumber, but an electrician, and he works pretty close to those hours, running his own business . . . sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less (but not often). He has been working these hours for about 10 years.
He doesn’t make anywhere close to $250,000 (probably $60,000 net), so he will not be affected by Obama’s plan or have to lay off people for this new proposed spending. Unfortunately, he had to let his two employees go a long time ago as it wasn’t profitable enough to keep them with all the taxes, paperwork, and insurance and they were too slow and barely employable. Don’t worry, though, we probably are paying their social security and unemployment now, so they are all taken care of.
It comes down to this, if liberals were ever forced to run their own business for one year(and I know that you do, from what you said) and subsist on their earnings, 75% of them would instantly become Republicans.
Really, Obama’s plan if enacted (God help us) would be like feeding rat poison to a patient in intensive care.
Yes, maybe some will get a nice tax-cut or tax credit for a few hundred dollars (maybe a thousand!), but their jobs will be gone to pay for these ridiculous spending programs.
Personally, I’d rather have a job, but that’s just me.
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