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Participant[quote=Hobie][quote=ltsddd]
flu:45 million sick, 61K deaths
corona: 70-100 million sick, 700K – 1 million deaths
[/quote]This is what I mean. Panic inducing numbers.
Real Facts:
Covid-19
1629 cases, 41 deathsFlu
36-55 million cases, 22-55,000 deathshttps://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html#epi-curve
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm%5B/quote%5D
Then you ask yourself this:
* why the lock downs in China, Korea, Iran, Italy, etc
* why the travel bans?
* why trump declared a national emergency? (and please don’t tell me he was forced into action by the MSM).* 1629 cases, 41 deaths – how many tested? Yeah, let’s not test the people, if they can’t verify they’re infected with virus therefore the virus is not spreading and killing.
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Participant[quote=Hobie]Thanks for the doom and gloom, double “d”[/quote]
lol. inspired by flu, an and real, I was messing around with my username and now I can’t have it back.
Back to the topic. Why don’t you share what’s your narrative is if you disagreed with others’?
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Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I am not sure how anyone can say that the government is late in dealing with this
[/quote]You answered it yourself here.
[quote=sdduuuude]I also read an article today that said there are 1200 COVID-19 test kits for all of San Diego.
[/quote]We were lucky this thing started half the world away. China’s locking down wuhan and nearby provinces also helped slowing down the spread to other areas (including the US). Why are we still woefully lack of the test kits 3 months after the outbreak in China?
[quote=sdduuuude]
The measured death rate is 3% or so. CDC or WHO estimated the actual rate under 1%. Could be much, much lower, in reality.I put those together and it sounds like just another flu to me.
[/quote]1% is widely cited as the death rate for the corona virus vs .1% for the flu. The contagiousness of the coronavirus is 2-3 vs 1.3 for the flu. Taking those together we’re looking at, using 2018’s # for flu cases:
flu:45 million sick, 61K deaths
corona: 70-100 million sick, 700K – 1 million deaths
Those are staggering numbers.
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ParticipantIf this is true. The press might be praising global warming this spring/summer.
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Participant[quote=Coronita]Mnuchin and Kudlow were strongly opposed to the EU travel ban. Birx was the one that pushed for the travel ban.[/quote]
I’d vote to have these two “$$ above everything else” mofos on a plane going from country to country to work on an economic “recovery” plan. Oh, and insist they bring their fvcking families with them.
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Participant[quote=Coronita]Im not too worried. You know who is really running the show? It’s not Trump, it’s not Pence.
Deborah Birx.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_L._Birx%5B/quote%5DOne of the bobbleheads behind trump during the news conference, the other being the coronavirus czar (aka pence), that doesn’t even know how many people have been tested? Anyhow, what I tried to point out in the video is the “(oh it’s bad then) I didn’t do it” rambling response from our commander in tweets.
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Participant[quote=Coronita][quote=flu]All those bigly CEOs joining in to help! It’s great and he’s finally showing he can be a leader when we need him. #Trump2020[/quote]
Come on friend. Really? We know he showed up late just so he wouldn’t tank the markets. Slimeball.
Nothing can top Sarah Palin’s performance on Masked Singer, lol. awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX78DbOXVJ8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zJPcC1-uAeM%5B/quote%5D
This performance takes the cake:
WATCH: @Yamiche asked the president about a reorganization of the National Security Council that dismantled a key pandemics team in 2018.
President Trump: "I just think it's a nasty question… You say we did that, I don't know anything about it." pic.twitter.com/lWo0YKS1rl
— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) March 13, 2020
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Participant[quote=Hobie]41 Corona deaths vs. 22K-55k flu deaths
[/quote]This is a false narrative. Imagine what the numbers would be like if the coronavirus was allowed to spread and proliferate freely like the flu is – the chinese didn’t lockdown wuhan and nearby cities, travel bans, aggressive testing/monitoring, quarantines by other countries.
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Participant[quote=Hobie]itsdd: keep in mind people were dying from the flu. Not so much re coronavirus. Transmission rates vs. actual mortality are not same. This is my point re press jumping on the ‘pandemic’ phrase and getting everyone panicked running out to by toilet paper and bottled water.
You may find this interesting:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html#epi-curve%5B/quote%5DI hear you. The media probably helped fanning the panic, but that only worked b/c the gov’t failed miserably on how it managed the situation. That chunk of lard, all he had to do to reassure the people was to just acknowledge the severity of the new virus (nothing new) and let them know that the smartest scientist/doctors are working on a solution and leave it at that. Telling people to not to panic without any substance to back it up is like watching a fire burning down your next door neighbor’s house through your windows and telling your kids not to panic and then just standing there.
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Participant[quote=Hobie]zk: you are too smart to be drinking the koolaid.
Back in 2009 the swine flu now called H1N1 was the epidemic virus. It appears every year from then on.
Some reading:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.htmlThe difference is the press response and the resulting public frenzy.
Something to think about.[/quote]
hmmm…less than two weeks after the first human infection was detected on April 15, 2009, the
1. cdc began working on a vaccine on april 21
2. cdc activated emergency op center on april 22
3. cdc releasing antiviral drug to battle new virus april 26
4. fda approved new cdc test on april 28Perhaps the difference in the press response has a lot to do with how the gov’t/CDC responded to the situations?
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-pandemic-timeline.html
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Participant[quote=flu]Whoa. So it’s pretty ahole-ish for universities to be forcing students out of their dorms on short notice.
First I heard Pepperdine do this, now it seems like USD is doing this.
Harvard gave theirs 5 days to move out.
….So, interesting how many of us were ridiculing China’s response, or lack thereof, to the coronavirus. But here we are almost two months later the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the entire world doesn’t seem to have a fvcking clue on how to respond to the crisis. We were probably right to suspect China under-reporting their numbers, but that implied they at least knew how many of were infected. But the U.S. is even worse since we don’t know how many people are infected. Pathetic how little testing has been administered:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.htmlhttps://www.statista.com/chart/21108/covid-19-tests-performed-per-million-of-the-population/
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