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July 3, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Just relocated to SD & want to move to Del Cerro area… buy or rent? #232661July 3, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Just relocated to SD & want to move to Del Cerro area… buy or rent? #232785
LostCat
ParticipantImack,
A few things to consider:
1) the state of the market. Like pretty much everyone has said, it will probably go down a bit more. You could save by waiting.
2) Did you find a house you like in Del Cerro?
3) schools, You have about 4 years before your kid starts Kindergarten, so no rush there.
4) if your kid is going to day-care, there are a couple of places near by that are good (mission valley Nazaren daycare is good) Home daycares are far and few between. We found one good one.
5) How much work does the house need that you’re going to move into? You might be able to negotiate a 2010 price.
6) specific neighborhood. What area of Del Cerro are you look at?Princess Del Cerro, Old Del Cerro? Make sure you don’t end up in Allied Gardens (different Elementary School = poor primary education)
7) Easy access to everywhere. Good bus service to the SDSU trolley Station or Grantville for future commuting needs when Gas his $10 a gallon.
8) walk to Windmill farms, no need to get in car
9) nice community pool (del cerro park). $40.00 per month to join, pool heated 9-month a year at 84 degrees. Kids can learn to swim, kids pool, sand-box, basketball courts, bbqs areas, etc..
10) lots of remodling going on right now. A number of new younger families have moved in recently. Older folks keep the place in order and eyes on the streets during the day when everyone is at work.
11) great sense of community. been her for about 7 years. about the second year living here, my wife and I started to feel part of it. It takes time.
12) IF you are going to rent in del cerro, you’;ll have to rent a house. Not too much condo living around or available that would give you the same feel as owning. Unfortunately, Condo dweller and owners in communities like this tend to take on two different lives.
July 3, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Just relocated to SD & want to move to Del Cerro area… buy or rent? #232794LostCat
ParticipantImack,
A few things to consider:
1) the state of the market. Like pretty much everyone has said, it will probably go down a bit more. You could save by waiting.
2) Did you find a house you like in Del Cerro?
3) schools, You have about 4 years before your kid starts Kindergarten, so no rush there.
4) if your kid is going to day-care, there are a couple of places near by that are good (mission valley Nazaren daycare is good) Home daycares are far and few between. We found one good one.
5) How much work does the house need that you’re going to move into? You might be able to negotiate a 2010 price.
6) specific neighborhood. What area of Del Cerro are you look at?Princess Del Cerro, Old Del Cerro? Make sure you don’t end up in Allied Gardens (different Elementary School = poor primary education)
7) Easy access to everywhere. Good bus service to the SDSU trolley Station or Grantville for future commuting needs when Gas his $10 a gallon.
8) walk to Windmill farms, no need to get in car
9) nice community pool (del cerro park). $40.00 per month to join, pool heated 9-month a year at 84 degrees. Kids can learn to swim, kids pool, sand-box, basketball courts, bbqs areas, etc..
10) lots of remodling going on right now. A number of new younger families have moved in recently. Older folks keep the place in order and eyes on the streets during the day when everyone is at work.
11) great sense of community. been her for about 7 years. about the second year living here, my wife and I started to feel part of it. It takes time.
12) IF you are going to rent in del cerro, you’;ll have to rent a house. Not too much condo living around or available that would give you the same feel as owning. Unfortunately, Condo dweller and owners in communities like this tend to take on two different lives.
July 3, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Just relocated to SD & want to move to Del Cerro area… buy or rent? #232835LostCat
ParticipantImack,
A few things to consider:
1) the state of the market. Like pretty much everyone has said, it will probably go down a bit more. You could save by waiting.
2) Did you find a house you like in Del Cerro?
3) schools, You have about 4 years before your kid starts Kindergarten, so no rush there.
4) if your kid is going to day-care, there are a couple of places near by that are good (mission valley Nazaren daycare is good) Home daycares are far and few between. We found one good one.
5) How much work does the house need that you’re going to move into? You might be able to negotiate a 2010 price.
6) specific neighborhood. What area of Del Cerro are you look at?Princess Del Cerro, Old Del Cerro? Make sure you don’t end up in Allied Gardens (different Elementary School = poor primary education)
7) Easy access to everywhere. Good bus service to the SDSU trolley Station or Grantville for future commuting needs when Gas his $10 a gallon.
8) walk to Windmill farms, no need to get in car
9) nice community pool (del cerro park). $40.00 per month to join, pool heated 9-month a year at 84 degrees. Kids can learn to swim, kids pool, sand-box, basketball courts, bbqs areas, etc..
10) lots of remodling going on right now. A number of new younger families have moved in recently. Older folks keep the place in order and eyes on the streets during the day when everyone is at work.
11) great sense of community. been her for about 7 years. about the second year living here, my wife and I started to feel part of it. It takes time.
12) IF you are going to rent in del cerro, you’;ll have to rent a house. Not too much condo living around or available that would give you the same feel as owning. Unfortunately, Condo dweller and owners in communities like this tend to take on two different lives.
July 3, 2008 at 10:42 AM in reply to: Just relocated to SD & want to move to Del Cerro area… buy or rent? #232846LostCat
ParticipantImack,
A few things to consider:
1) the state of the market. Like pretty much everyone has said, it will probably go down a bit more. You could save by waiting.
2) Did you find a house you like in Del Cerro?
3) schools, You have about 4 years before your kid starts Kindergarten, so no rush there.
4) if your kid is going to day-care, there are a couple of places near by that are good (mission valley Nazaren daycare is good) Home daycares are far and few between. We found one good one.
5) How much work does the house need that you’re going to move into? You might be able to negotiate a 2010 price.
6) specific neighborhood. What area of Del Cerro are you look at?Princess Del Cerro, Old Del Cerro? Make sure you don’t end up in Allied Gardens (different Elementary School = poor primary education)
7) Easy access to everywhere. Good bus service to the SDSU trolley Station or Grantville for future commuting needs when Gas his $10 a gallon.
8) walk to Windmill farms, no need to get in car
9) nice community pool (del cerro park). $40.00 per month to join, pool heated 9-month a year at 84 degrees. Kids can learn to swim, kids pool, sand-box, basketball courts, bbqs areas, etc..
10) lots of remodling going on right now. A number of new younger families have moved in recently. Older folks keep the place in order and eyes on the streets during the day when everyone is at work.
11) great sense of community. been her for about 7 years. about the second year living here, my wife and I started to feel part of it. It takes time.
12) IF you are going to rent in del cerro, you’;ll have to rent a house. Not too much condo living around or available that would give you the same feel as owning. Unfortunately, Condo dweller and owners in communities like this tend to take on two different lives.
LostCat
ParticipantTucker,
I get what you’re saying, but just think of it like this for a second. NYC is compact urban development with densities above 60,000 per city block. When you put that many people in the same area it’s much easier and cost effective to provide the type of service people need at a lower cost.
Think about it in these terms. A bus travels down Poway Rd or say a subway system travel under poway rd and has a station right at the end of the Cul-de-sac somewhere in Poway. How many single family homes do you think are within walking distance of that stop. Likely about 25. Then you start to push peoples walk beyond a 1/4-mile, beyond what most like to walk.
Now take a step back. What is the chance that all 25 of those houses are commuting or heading to the same exact location during the AM commute? If you have 25 different destinations, how do you get a subway system at $6,000,000 a mile construction cost to service all 25 effectively and efficiently? How many billion dollar lines do you have to build to serve those 25 people, whom are all heading in different directions? You don’t because suburbia is designed around the automobile. It locks you into your car with no alternative. You are stuck.
Now on the other end of the route, the destination end of the trip. Say you’re headed to sorrento valley. Where would it drop you off? what office building and how direct could it get you there without serving the other 25 people first. How much would that cost to build, operate, and maintain a service of that nature? Off of 1/6 of 1cent sales tax that is dedicated to transit service in San Diego, you could never do it.
New York City.
Now, like I said before. New York City has a avg density between 70k and 90k per city block, a significant contrast compared to Poway’s and other San Diego Suburban environments of 5 per hectar. With densities in NY, it’s more complicated to find a parking space, more costly too. A subway line that costs a million a mile and connects to a grid of other service more effectively service many to many trip destination. It also cost effectively provides a network of transit service that you can transfer between and still get to your destination without needing to walk too far at on the destination end of your trip. The best part of New York is that it is flat. So when you get to the end of the subway line, without your car, even if your office is three or four blocks, you can walk it.. IF a trolley dropped you off in Sorrento valley 3 or 4 blocks from your office, you’d have to traverse and cross four 8-lane arterial roads risking your life, walk in the street because of a lack of sidewalks and then once you got to your office, hike through a parking lot built for 1,000 cars.
Lastly, mass transit is expensive to provide. It costs roughly $5.00 a mile for a bus route. Compound the mileage of a route, every trip it makes during the day and throughout the year, and the operating cost sky rocket. Say you have a Route that is 32-mile long (one-way) and there are 77-round trips a day, 365 days a year. This will cost you for one route about $9 million a year. With a 33% fare box recovery ratio (the amount people actually pay on a route when the get on the bus by paying a fare), the route still requires an annual subsidy of around $6-million a year to operate. So try to do this to every block in Poway, Escondido, Mira Mesa, etc.. on the cheap of 1/6th of 1-cent for every dollar spent on sales tax. Cost are probably even more now with rising fuel costs. Even though people pay a fare, it hardly covers the full cost to provide the service. Why, because in San Diego, you pick up two or three people every so many miles in between so much sprawl,
The bottom-line is, until land-use designation changes and become more dense, and more San Diegians start to realize that they are stuck in their cars, we’ll all be stuck in our cars forever.
LostCat
ParticipantTucker,
I get what you’re saying, but just think of it like this for a second. NYC is compact urban development with densities above 60,000 per city block. When you put that many people in the same area it’s much easier and cost effective to provide the type of service people need at a lower cost.
Think about it in these terms. A bus travels down Poway Rd or say a subway system travel under poway rd and has a station right at the end of the Cul-de-sac somewhere in Poway. How many single family homes do you think are within walking distance of that stop. Likely about 25. Then you start to push peoples walk beyond a 1/4-mile, beyond what most like to walk.
Now take a step back. What is the chance that all 25 of those houses are commuting or heading to the same exact location during the AM commute? If you have 25 different destinations, how do you get a subway system at $6,000,000 a mile construction cost to service all 25 effectively and efficiently? How many billion dollar lines do you have to build to serve those 25 people, whom are all heading in different directions? You don’t because suburbia is designed around the automobile. It locks you into your car with no alternative. You are stuck.
Now on the other end of the route, the destination end of the trip. Say you’re headed to sorrento valley. Where would it drop you off? what office building and how direct could it get you there without serving the other 25 people first. How much would that cost to build, operate, and maintain a service of that nature? Off of 1/6 of 1cent sales tax that is dedicated to transit service in San Diego, you could never do it.
New York City.
Now, like I said before. New York City has a avg density between 70k and 90k per city block, a significant contrast compared to Poway’s and other San Diego Suburban environments of 5 per hectar. With densities in NY, it’s more complicated to find a parking space, more costly too. A subway line that costs a million a mile and connects to a grid of other service more effectively service many to many trip destination. It also cost effectively provides a network of transit service that you can transfer between and still get to your destination without needing to walk too far at on the destination end of your trip. The best part of New York is that it is flat. So when you get to the end of the subway line, without your car, even if your office is three or four blocks, you can walk it.. IF a trolley dropped you off in Sorrento valley 3 or 4 blocks from your office, you’d have to traverse and cross four 8-lane arterial roads risking your life, walk in the street because of a lack of sidewalks and then once you got to your office, hike through a parking lot built for 1,000 cars.
Lastly, mass transit is expensive to provide. It costs roughly $5.00 a mile for a bus route. Compound the mileage of a route, every trip it makes during the day and throughout the year, and the operating cost sky rocket. Say you have a Route that is 32-mile long (one-way) and there are 77-round trips a day, 365 days a year. This will cost you for one route about $9 million a year. With a 33% fare box recovery ratio (the amount people actually pay on a route when the get on the bus by paying a fare), the route still requires an annual subsidy of around $6-million a year to operate. So try to do this to every block in Poway, Escondido, Mira Mesa, etc.. on the cheap of 1/6th of 1-cent for every dollar spent on sales tax. Cost are probably even more now with rising fuel costs. Even though people pay a fare, it hardly covers the full cost to provide the service. Why, because in San Diego, you pick up two or three people every so many miles in between so much sprawl,
The bottom-line is, until land-use designation changes and become more dense, and more San Diegians start to realize that they are stuck in their cars, we’ll all be stuck in our cars forever.
LostCat
ParticipantTucker,
I get what you’re saying, but just think of it like this for a second. NYC is compact urban development with densities above 60,000 per city block. When you put that many people in the same area it’s much easier and cost effective to provide the type of service people need at a lower cost.
Think about it in these terms. A bus travels down Poway Rd or say a subway system travel under poway rd and has a station right at the end of the Cul-de-sac somewhere in Poway. How many single family homes do you think are within walking distance of that stop. Likely about 25. Then you start to push peoples walk beyond a 1/4-mile, beyond what most like to walk.
Now take a step back. What is the chance that all 25 of those houses are commuting or heading to the same exact location during the AM commute? If you have 25 different destinations, how do you get a subway system at $6,000,000 a mile construction cost to service all 25 effectively and efficiently? How many billion dollar lines do you have to build to serve those 25 people, whom are all heading in different directions? You don’t because suburbia is designed around the automobile. It locks you into your car with no alternative. You are stuck.
Now on the other end of the route, the destination end of the trip. Say you’re headed to sorrento valley. Where would it drop you off? what office building and how direct could it get you there without serving the other 25 people first. How much would that cost to build, operate, and maintain a service of that nature? Off of 1/6 of 1cent sales tax that is dedicated to transit service in San Diego, you could never do it.
New York City.
Now, like I said before. New York City has a avg density between 70k and 90k per city block, a significant contrast compared to Poway’s and other San Diego Suburban environments of 5 per hectar. With densities in NY, it’s more complicated to find a parking space, more costly too. A subway line that costs a million a mile and connects to a grid of other service more effectively service many to many trip destination. It also cost effectively provides a network of transit service that you can transfer between and still get to your destination without needing to walk too far at on the destination end of your trip. The best part of New York is that it is flat. So when you get to the end of the subway line, without your car, even if your office is three or four blocks, you can walk it.. IF a trolley dropped you off in Sorrento valley 3 or 4 blocks from your office, you’d have to traverse and cross four 8-lane arterial roads risking your life, walk in the street because of a lack of sidewalks and then once you got to your office, hike through a parking lot built for 1,000 cars.
Lastly, mass transit is expensive to provide. It costs roughly $5.00 a mile for a bus route. Compound the mileage of a route, every trip it makes during the day and throughout the year, and the operating cost sky rocket. Say you have a Route that is 32-mile long (one-way) and there are 77-round trips a day, 365 days a year. This will cost you for one route about $9 million a year. With a 33% fare box recovery ratio (the amount people actually pay on a route when the get on the bus by paying a fare), the route still requires an annual subsidy of around $6-million a year to operate. So try to do this to every block in Poway, Escondido, Mira Mesa, etc.. on the cheap of 1/6th of 1-cent for every dollar spent on sales tax. Cost are probably even more now with rising fuel costs. Even though people pay a fare, it hardly covers the full cost to provide the service. Why, because in San Diego, you pick up two or three people every so many miles in between so much sprawl,
The bottom-line is, until land-use designation changes and become more dense, and more San Diegians start to realize that they are stuck in their cars, we’ll all be stuck in our cars forever.
LostCat
ParticipantTucker,
I get what you’re saying, but just think of it like this for a second. NYC is compact urban development with densities above 60,000 per city block. When you put that many people in the same area it’s much easier and cost effective to provide the type of service people need at a lower cost.
Think about it in these terms. A bus travels down Poway Rd or say a subway system travel under poway rd and has a station right at the end of the Cul-de-sac somewhere in Poway. How many single family homes do you think are within walking distance of that stop. Likely about 25. Then you start to push peoples walk beyond a 1/4-mile, beyond what most like to walk.
Now take a step back. What is the chance that all 25 of those houses are commuting or heading to the same exact location during the AM commute? If you have 25 different destinations, how do you get a subway system at $6,000,000 a mile construction cost to service all 25 effectively and efficiently? How many billion dollar lines do you have to build to serve those 25 people, whom are all heading in different directions? You don’t because suburbia is designed around the automobile. It locks you into your car with no alternative. You are stuck.
Now on the other end of the route, the destination end of the trip. Say you’re headed to sorrento valley. Where would it drop you off? what office building and how direct could it get you there without serving the other 25 people first. How much would that cost to build, operate, and maintain a service of that nature? Off of 1/6 of 1cent sales tax that is dedicated to transit service in San Diego, you could never do it.
New York City.
Now, like I said before. New York City has a avg density between 70k and 90k per city block, a significant contrast compared to Poway’s and other San Diego Suburban environments of 5 per hectar. With densities in NY, it’s more complicated to find a parking space, more costly too. A subway line that costs a million a mile and connects to a grid of other service more effectively service many to many trip destination. It also cost effectively provides a network of transit service that you can transfer between and still get to your destination without needing to walk too far at on the destination end of your trip. The best part of New York is that it is flat. So when you get to the end of the subway line, without your car, even if your office is three or four blocks, you can walk it.. IF a trolley dropped you off in Sorrento valley 3 or 4 blocks from your office, you’d have to traverse and cross four 8-lane arterial roads risking your life, walk in the street because of a lack of sidewalks and then once you got to your office, hike through a parking lot built for 1,000 cars.
Lastly, mass transit is expensive to provide. It costs roughly $5.00 a mile for a bus route. Compound the mileage of a route, every trip it makes during the day and throughout the year, and the operating cost sky rocket. Say you have a Route that is 32-mile long (one-way) and there are 77-round trips a day, 365 days a year. This will cost you for one route about $9 million a year. With a 33% fare box recovery ratio (the amount people actually pay on a route when the get on the bus by paying a fare), the route still requires an annual subsidy of around $6-million a year to operate. So try to do this to every block in Poway, Escondido, Mira Mesa, etc.. on the cheap of 1/6th of 1-cent for every dollar spent on sales tax. Cost are probably even more now with rising fuel costs. Even though people pay a fare, it hardly covers the full cost to provide the service. Why, because in San Diego, you pick up two or three people every so many miles in between so much sprawl,
The bottom-line is, until land-use designation changes and become more dense, and more San Diegians start to realize that they are stuck in their cars, we’ll all be stuck in our cars forever.
LostCat
ParticipantTucker,
I get what you’re saying, but just think of it like this for a second. NYC is compact urban development with densities above 60,000 per city block. When you put that many people in the same area it’s much easier and cost effective to provide the type of service people need at a lower cost.
Think about it in these terms. A bus travels down Poway Rd or say a subway system travel under poway rd and has a station right at the end of the Cul-de-sac somewhere in Poway. How many single family homes do you think are within walking distance of that stop. Likely about 25. Then you start to push peoples walk beyond a 1/4-mile, beyond what most like to walk.
Now take a step back. What is the chance that all 25 of those houses are commuting or heading to the same exact location during the AM commute? If you have 25 different destinations, how do you get a subway system at $6,000,000 a mile construction cost to service all 25 effectively and efficiently? How many billion dollar lines do you have to build to serve those 25 people, whom are all heading in different directions? You don’t because suburbia is designed around the automobile. It locks you into your car with no alternative. You are stuck.
Now on the other end of the route, the destination end of the trip. Say you’re headed to sorrento valley. Where would it drop you off? what office building and how direct could it get you there without serving the other 25 people first. How much would that cost to build, operate, and maintain a service of that nature? Off of 1/6 of 1cent sales tax that is dedicated to transit service in San Diego, you could never do it.
New York City.
Now, like I said before. New York City has a avg density between 70k and 90k per city block, a significant contrast compared to Poway’s and other San Diego Suburban environments of 5 per hectar. With densities in NY, it’s more complicated to find a parking space, more costly too. A subway line that costs a million a mile and connects to a grid of other service more effectively service many to many trip destination. It also cost effectively provides a network of transit service that you can transfer between and still get to your destination without needing to walk too far at on the destination end of your trip. The best part of New York is that it is flat. So when you get to the end of the subway line, without your car, even if your office is three or four blocks, you can walk it.. IF a trolley dropped you off in Sorrento valley 3 or 4 blocks from your office, you’d have to traverse and cross four 8-lane arterial roads risking your life, walk in the street because of a lack of sidewalks and then once you got to your office, hike through a parking lot built for 1,000 cars.
Lastly, mass transit is expensive to provide. It costs roughly $5.00 a mile for a bus route. Compound the mileage of a route, every trip it makes during the day and throughout the year, and the operating cost sky rocket. Say you have a Route that is 32-mile long (one-way) and there are 77-round trips a day, 365 days a year. This will cost you for one route about $9 million a year. With a 33% fare box recovery ratio (the amount people actually pay on a route when the get on the bus by paying a fare), the route still requires an annual subsidy of around $6-million a year to operate. So try to do this to every block in Poway, Escondido, Mira Mesa, etc.. on the cheap of 1/6th of 1-cent for every dollar spent on sales tax. Cost are probably even more now with rising fuel costs. Even though people pay a fare, it hardly covers the full cost to provide the service. Why, because in San Diego, you pick up two or three people every so many miles in between so much sprawl,
The bottom-line is, until land-use designation changes and become more dense, and more San Diegians start to realize that they are stuck in their cars, we’ll all be stuck in our cars forever.
LostCat
ParticipantFirst, Public Transit in San Diego doesn’t suck. It doesn’t do anything more or less than NY’s transit system. The problem with San Diego is the land-use designation that it serves. How can anyone provide accessible transit in county that prides itself on suburban sprawl. What a joke.
If voters started placing people in office that would help build this city out of their cars, we might one day have an option. I fortunately live in the mid-city area where I can take the bus into downtown to work everyday. It works fine for me and my $65.00 a month monthly pass is hardly a tax on the wallet.
The bottomline is, not matter how high gas prices go, people in america still have to drive because no one pays any attention to why they are actually stuck in their car. One day, those that live in Poway, RB, Escondido, Carlsbad and commute to Downtown or Sorrento Valley, will figure it out. Move closer to your job and shop in your neighborhood.
Lastly, don’t think Hybrids are the answer, until you find a place to put all the 6-year old lition Ion batteries that cannot be recycled.
LostCat
ParticipantFirst, Public Transit in San Diego doesn’t suck. It doesn’t do anything more or less than NY’s transit system. The problem with San Diego is the land-use designation that it serves. How can anyone provide accessible transit in county that prides itself on suburban sprawl. What a joke.
If voters started placing people in office that would help build this city out of their cars, we might one day have an option. I fortunately live in the mid-city area where I can take the bus into downtown to work everyday. It works fine for me and my $65.00 a month monthly pass is hardly a tax on the wallet.
The bottomline is, not matter how high gas prices go, people in america still have to drive because no one pays any attention to why they are actually stuck in their car. One day, those that live in Poway, RB, Escondido, Carlsbad and commute to Downtown or Sorrento Valley, will figure it out. Move closer to your job and shop in your neighborhood.
Lastly, don’t think Hybrids are the answer, until you find a place to put all the 6-year old lition Ion batteries that cannot be recycled.
LostCat
ParticipantFirst, Public Transit in San Diego doesn’t suck. It doesn’t do anything more or less than NY’s transit system. The problem with San Diego is the land-use designation that it serves. How can anyone provide accessible transit in county that prides itself on suburban sprawl. What a joke.
If voters started placing people in office that would help build this city out of their cars, we might one day have an option. I fortunately live in the mid-city area where I can take the bus into downtown to work everyday. It works fine for me and my $65.00 a month monthly pass is hardly a tax on the wallet.
The bottomline is, not matter how high gas prices go, people in america still have to drive because no one pays any attention to why they are actually stuck in their car. One day, those that live in Poway, RB, Escondido, Carlsbad and commute to Downtown or Sorrento Valley, will figure it out. Move closer to your job and shop in your neighborhood.
Lastly, don’t think Hybrids are the answer, until you find a place to put all the 6-year old lition Ion batteries that cannot be recycled.
LostCat
ParticipantFirst, Public Transit in San Diego doesn’t suck. It doesn’t do anything more or less than NY’s transit system. The problem with San Diego is the land-use designation that it serves. How can anyone provide accessible transit in county that prides itself on suburban sprawl. What a joke.
If voters started placing people in office that would help build this city out of their cars, we might one day have an option. I fortunately live in the mid-city area where I can take the bus into downtown to work everyday. It works fine for me and my $65.00 a month monthly pass is hardly a tax on the wallet.
The bottomline is, not matter how high gas prices go, people in america still have to drive because no one pays any attention to why they are actually stuck in their car. One day, those that live in Poway, RB, Escondido, Carlsbad and commute to Downtown or Sorrento Valley, will figure it out. Move closer to your job and shop in your neighborhood.
Lastly, don’t think Hybrids are the answer, until you find a place to put all the 6-year old lition Ion batteries that cannot be recycled.
LostCat
ParticipantFirst, Public Transit in San Diego doesn’t suck. It doesn’t do anything more or less than NY’s transit system. The problem with San Diego is the land-use designation that it serves. How can anyone provide accessible transit in county that prides itself on suburban sprawl. What a joke.
If voters started placing people in office that would help build this city out of their cars, we might one day have an option. I fortunately live in the mid-city area where I can take the bus into downtown to work everyday. It works fine for me and my $65.00 a month monthly pass is hardly a tax on the wallet.
The bottomline is, not matter how high gas prices go, people in america still have to drive because no one pays any attention to why they are actually stuck in their car. One day, those that live in Poway, RB, Escondido, Carlsbad and commute to Downtown or Sorrento Valley, will figure it out. Move closer to your job and shop in your neighborhood.
Lastly, don’t think Hybrids are the answer, until you find a place to put all the 6-year old lition Ion batteries that cannot be recycled.
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